CONFIRMED Dean Henderson returns on season long loan

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You're entitled to your opinion but I certainly don't agree with it. Johnstone went to West Brom for 6.5m last summer, so I'm pretty sure they'd sell for 10m.

I think you're overrating Henderson, each one of the keepers I've mentioned on that list are more accomplished than him and have Premier League experience (excluding Johnstone), so I'm not sure what you're basing "the rest aren't better than DH" on. I remember a BladesPod episode where they assessed Henderson as an average Championship goalkeeper based on his stats last season, the defence was brilliant last season and most games he had very little to do.
A defence is only brilliant if they have the confidence and understanding with the goalkeeper, which they clearly did. The other keepers are good but would have to build that. Deano for me.
 

What a fucking idiot “Mick H” is. Calling out one of our potential players for next season for what was a fairly innocuous tweet. Some of our fans, honestly...

My thoughts exactly to be honest. Twitter is full of those types unfortunately.
 
Getting a bit wazzed off with all this Man Utd, will he / won't he business. Loved him and the whole business last year but can't accept the feeling that Sheffield united will take, and be governed by, their whim and the wishes of a talented lad who is a long way off being their starter. Sign or don't, cheerio pal and we'll get someone who sees us as their club and not just a means to an improbable end.
Errm - aren't we in the Premier League?
 
A defence is only brilliant if they have the confidence and understanding with the goalkeeper, which they clearly did. The other keepers are good but would have to build that. Deano for me.

Having an understanding with the defence is important, I agree, but Henderson isn't a long term solution, if he comes back, he's off again the season after. So this issue has to be addressed now or next summer regardless, why not do it now when we can offer Premier League football and get a top quality goalkeeper for the long term?!
 
Having an understanding with the defence is important, I agree, but Henderson isn't a long term solution, if he comes back, he's off again the season after. So this issue has to be addressed now or next summer regardless, why not do it now when we can offer Premier League football and get a top quality goalkeeper for the long term?!
If we stay up, we will have more money available and depending on his man Utd situation we will probably be able to buy him next summer if he's available. The budget will only stretch so far this summer and imo is being spent correctly on reinforcing a ageing forward line.
 
If we stay up, we will have more money available and depending on his man Utd situation we will probably be able to buy him next summer if he's available. The budget will only stretch so far this summer and imo is being spent correctly on reinforcing a ageing forward line.

That's a lot of ifs. Henderson is reported to be signing a contract of 75k a week...no matter what his performances are like this season, we wouldn't be able to afford him. The loan doesn't make sense, whichever way you look at it.
 
If CW is not 100% confident of landing Henderson (which I believe he is) he will have other irons in the fire... this is one area that doesn't concern me.
 
Id go and get Marshall on a free from Hull. That might waken Man Utd up to the idea that there are other decent keepers out there for other clubs (and us) to sign and that they will quickly lose out on their young player getting the chance to play Premier League football at the Lane, to gain invaluable experience.

The positives of Hendo coming to the Lane arent all just one way.

Utd should give Man Utd a deal 'drop dead' date and tell them we are very interested up that date, but after that...we have moved on. It might help focus minds and get a few decisions made one way or another.

Hes a decent young keeper, but he's not a world beater. Stop acting like we are waiting for scraps from Man Utds table. We are a PL club now so should start acting like we deserve to be at the same table as anyone else, no matter who they are. I hope Utd sign him soon...or they just dont bother with him, and move on quickly. Personally, im happy either way.

I think Marshall would be a good signing regardless. I'd certainly prefer him to Simon Moore as cover.
 
Look at this way, we are sweating over players that we might be signing. Better than having a summer in the Championship worrying whether or not JOC or Fleck are going to be sold.
That's a great point ,never thought I'd actually forget what that feels like
 
That's a lot of ifs. Henderson is reported to be signing a contract of 75k a week...no matter what his performances are like this season, we wouldn't be able to afford him. The loan doesn't make sense, whichever way you look at it.
It makes 100% sense if it saves us 5-10m which can be used for a maupay or mcburnie.
 
It makes 100% sense if it saves us 5-10m which can be used for a maupay or mcburnie.

The budget should allow for both. I've never known a Premier League club have to rely on loaning a goalkeeper to save money. Ridiculous, the club have received a cash injection of around 170m over 3 years. 5-10m for a permanent goalkeeper that will stretch over that time frame isn't much to ask...not doing that is the perfect example of United not seizing the opportunity they've been generously presented with.
 
The budget should allow for both. I've never known a Premier League club have to rely on loaning a goalkeeper to save money. Ridiculous, the club have received a cash injection of around 170m over 3 years. 5-10m for a permanent goalkeeper that will stretch over that time frame isn't much to ask...not doing that is the perfect example of United not seizing the opportunity they've been generously presented with.

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The budget should allow for both. I've never known a Premier League club have to rely on loaning a goalkeeper to save money. Ridiculous, the club have received a cash injection of around 170m over 3 years. 5-10m for a permanent goalkeeper that will stretch over that time frame isn't much to ask...not doing that is the perfect example of United not seizing the opportunity they've been generously presented with.

If we can get a fantastic GK for 36 games for a percentage of wages only or buy a GK for £8m or so like Etheridge who we would then be at the risk of losing if we go down, I'd say wages is prudent when you have limited budget.

If we have more money than it seems for defensive areas, it's different, but I think we're on the right track prioritising attacking players.
 

If we can get a fantastic GK for 36 games for a percentage of wages only or buy a GK for £8m or so like Etheridge who we would then be at the risk of losing if we go down, I'd say wages is prudent when you have limited budget.

If we have more money than it seems for defensive areas, it's different, but I think we're on the right track prioritising attacking players.

If he was undoubtedly fantastic, I'd say you have a point, but that's a subjective opinion and one I don't agree with. I think he'd take us down.

If we take your example...

We sign Etheridge for 8m and get relegated. He leaves and we cash in, we'd obviously not take a loss, so we'd be making a profit. Goalkeepers aren't usually in high demand in the Premier League though, look at Butland, he's stuck around at Stoke and he's arguably better than Etheridge. So, it's very possible we could have a top quality goalkeeper for the Championship should we be relegated. We should be planning for that scenario as an absolute bare minimum.

Worst case scenario for Henderson - we get relegated and we need a new goalkeeper, now looking at a lower calibre of options to what would be interested now.
Best case scenario - we stay up and find ourselves in this very same position next summer...where fans are still saying 'we should use our budget for other areas'.
 
Jesus.... Some right fannies around. What exactly has Hendo or the club or even man u done wrong, am I missing something? He's sorting out a new contract then coming back on loan, in the meantime he's training with his parent club and god forbid, had a photo taken of him doing so.

I imagine most of the people with sandy vaginas are the same ones praising him for most of last season. I'm pretty sure that wilder would have a plan b c and d in place if he doesn't come back, which won't happen.
 
Jesus.... Some right fannies around. What exactly has Hendo or the club or even man u done wrong, am I missing something? He's sorting out a new contract then coming back on loan, in the meantime he's training with his parent club and god forbid, had a photo taken of him doing so.

I imagine most of the people with sandy vaginas are the same ones praising him for most of last season. I'm pretty sure that wilder would have a plan b c and d in place if he doesn't come back, which won't happen.
There's got to be something to get het up about. I suspect there's already an agreement in place with Henderson and Wilder isn't worried at all.
 
There's got to be something to get het up about. I suspect there's already an agreement in place with Henderson and Wilder isn't worried at all.
To be fair Wilder does need to have other irons in the fire in the event of contractual stalemate between player and club. It has dragged on longer than anyone anticipated.
 
The budget should allow for both. I've never known a Premier League club have to rely on loaning a goalkeeper to save money. Ridiculous, the club have received a cash injection of around 170m over 3 years. 5-10m for a permanent goalkeeper that will stretch over that time frame isn't much to ask...not doing that is the perfect example of United not seizing the opportunity they've been generously presented with.

Newcastle did it two seasons ago. Fulham did it last season. Norwich are doing the same thing this season.
 
Newcastle did it two seasons ago. Fulham did it last season. Norwich are doing the same thing this season.

I can't remember Newcastle doing it...who was the goalkeeper? Fulham should never be used as a good example, but hadn't they also got 2 other decent goalkeepers on their books?! ...and Norwich signed Tim Krul on a 3 year contract over the summer...we have Simon Moore, who is a decent back up at Championship level.
 
I can't remember Newcastle doing it...who was the goalkeeper? Fulham should never be used as a good example, but hadn't they also got 2 other decent goalkeepers on their books?! ...and Norwich signed Tim Krul on a 3 year contract over the summer...we have Simon Moore, who is a decent back up at Championship level.

Newcastle signed Dúbravka on loan in JTW and then bought him. Fulham loaned Rico and sent him back. Norwich have just signed Ralf Fuhrmann on loan from Schalke for next season as their no. 1.
 
The budget should allow for both. I've never known a Premier League club have to rely on loaning a goalkeeper to save money. Ridiculous, the club have received a cash injection of around 170m over 3 years. 5-10m for a permanent goalkeeper that will stretch over that time frame isn't much to ask...not doing that is the perfect example of United not seizing the opportunity they've been generously presented with.
70 million is parachute money to sustain the club if relegated
The wage bill is likely 40-50 million now and can't remember the actual figure but possibly 10-20 million on upgrading facility's at the ground and academy that leaves 30 -50 million and given that the club only receives 80 million in tv money this season with 40 now and 40 in January you can see why the club aren't just going out and spinning cash all over the premierleague curtains
 
To be fair Wilder does need to have other irons in the fire in the event of contractual stalemate between player and club. It has dragged on longer than anyone anticipated.

I think he has things under control because I don't believe Eastwood would've left to go to Scunny on loan (well not yet) if we are going to be short of GK'ers
 
I think he has things under control because I don't believe Eastwood would've left to go to Scunny on loan (well not yet) if we are going to be short of GK'ers
Agreed buddy. There will be other irons in the fire. We need two new keepers anyway, but we may need a number 1 that isn't Deano, if he doesn't sort his contract out with Man Utd shortly.
 
Agreed buddy. There will be other irons in the fire. We need two new keepers anyway, but we may need a number 1 that isn't Deano, if he doesn't sort his contract out with Man Utd shortly.

I thought CW said a while back that in his 25 man squad, he names 3 GK'ers? Could be wrong tho
 

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