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Something for the historians to research.

Where do the names originate from?

Bramall Lane
Cherry Street
Shoreham Street
John Street

Were they named after famous Sheffield residents, businessmen?
How far do they go back in time?
What was there before the Cricket Pitch, football ground?
When were the stands built, rebuilt, then rebuilt again?
In what year were the four floodlight pylons put up and taken down?
What's been the highest capacity we've had at BDTBL, not attendance?
 



I’d be interested in to know this myself, I think the Bramall family is fairly well known however John, Shoreham and Cherry I haven’t a clue. Probably a more mundane answer than the Bramall question I’d guess.
 

Lots of info here
 
I’d be interested in to know this myself, I think the Bramall family is fairly well known however John, Shoreham and Cherry I haven’t a clue. Probably a more mundane answer than the Bramall question I’d guess.

First look at the wiki....

The stadium was built on a Sheffield road named after the Bramall family (who were file and graver manufacturers). The Bramalls owned 'The Old White House' on the corner of Bramall Lane and Cherry Street, and subsequently built the Sheaf House, now a public house that still stands at the top of Bramall Lane.

More investigative work required!
 
Cherry St is an abbreviation of 'Pop Yer Cherry St' where Victorian skanks used to do unspeakable acts in return for very little. John was their pimp. Can't help with Shoreham, sorry!
 
I'm going to have a go .... heducatated guesswork, that's my MO ;)

Cherry Street led from Bramall Lane to a house called Cherry Villa or Cherry Mount?) or something on the banks of the Sheaf.

Shoreham is in Sussex (its near Lancing, is there a Lancing Road parallel?), as is Arundel (I may be getting this wrong) and so it probably was a borough in the ancestral lands of the Duke of wherever who also owned this bit of Sheffield ..... the Duke of Devonshire or Earl of Arundel or Howard ... the clues are in the street names AND the pub names too.

John Street, when they ran out of ideas they frequently named streets after boys & girls names in the late Victorian era .....
 
Shoreham Street was named after a conversation at a street meat wagon in 1826.

"May I have a roast pork sandwich young man?"

"Wivv got no powoark but wivv got some Ham, that alreet guvnor?"

"Sure, ham is adequate."

This took place as the council were walking the new streets in the rapidly expanding Sheffield, and good names were few and far between, hence John Street, so named just because it was John's turn to come up with street names that day - Sureham street, later Shoreham, was miles better than calling it Derek Lane.
 
OK, from wikileaks, it turns out the Earl of Arundell is the same as the Duke of Norfolk and their family name is Fitzalan-Howard, so that accounts for half the street names and most of the pubs in the central part of Sheffield, they owned ... and possibly still own the land.
 
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Cherry Mount is next to the river at the end of Cherry Street which would probably have been straight till they built Lancing Road and Edmund Street, I would hazard a guess there were a few Prunus Trees growing there .... both of which follow the pattern of naming the streets after the Lord of the Manor's holdings elsewhere and then just using boys names when they ran out of places in Sussex. Interestingly Harwood Street is named after the most consistently knowledgeable family in South Yorks.
 
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The Ebenezer Chapel (Wesleyan Reform) that was opposite the Sheaf House Ground.
 
No guess work needed where Clough Street came from :mad:
 
Something for the historians to research.

Where do the names originate from?

Bramall Lane
Cherry Street
Shoreham Street
John Street

Were they named after famous Sheffield residents, businessmen?
How far do they go back in time?
What was there before the Cricket Pitch, football ground?
When were the stands built, rebuilt, then rebuilt again?
In what year were the four floodlight pylons put up and taken down?
What's been the highest capacity we've had at BDTBL, not attendance?
We had 5 floodlight pylons
 



One thing i've just discovered, them across the city have had eight grounds in their history.

BDTBL was their fifth.

#Nomads

Whilst they are clearly nomadic dirty twats, i do just want to add clarity to your previous post.

Wendy may have played their 'home' games on as many as 8 different sports grounds in Sheffield over the years (including some at the Lane for their bigger games) but they have only ever owned 2 grounds themselves. Their first owned ground was the one at Olive Grove (the site now being under the railway lines next to the Olive Grove bus depot), and the Piggery at Swillsborough itself. Bramall Lane has never been their home, even if they have played home games there. They had to pay for the use of hiring the Lane.
 
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Cherry Mount is next to the river at the end of Cherry Street which would probably have been straight till they built Lancing Road and Edmund Street, I would hazard a guess there were a few Prunus Trees growing there .... both of which follow the pattern of naming the streets after the Lord of the Manor's holdings elsewhere and then just using boys names when they ran out of places in Sussex. Interestingly Harwood Street is named after the most consistently knowledgeable family in South Yorks.

There’s a Clough Dam. Reverse that and that was my thoughts for about 18 months five years or so back.
 
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Cherry Mount is next to the river at the end of Cherry Street which would probably have been straight till they built Lancing Road and Edmund Street, I would hazard a guess there were a few Prunus Trees growing there .... both of which follow the pattern of naming the streets after the Lord of the Manor's holdings elsewhere and then just using boys names when they ran out of places in Sussex. Interestingly Harwood Street is named after the most consistently knowledgeable family in South Yorks.
Where's police barriers......

Love old street maps like that..
 
Thanks for that Mr Harwood.

They had an odd taste in Christain names though - 'Vorpal'?

Who is Chris Tain?

There’s some halfwit on here thinks we’re the same person. It’s already embarrassing enough..... (although he seems to have a thing about one of Dads sons :))
 
One thing i've just discovered, them across the city have had eight grounds in their history.

BDTBL was their fifth.

#Nomads
QUOTE="Lazarus, post: 2067934, member: 20162"]
One thing i've just discovered, them across the city have had eight grounds in their history.

BDTBL was their fifth.

#Nomads
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