Peterborough game massive for Blackwell

[Fiery Blade]

'With the appointment of new Peterborough manager Mark Cooper the Posh will be looking to get their new manager off to a flying start at struggling Sheffield United' is the message coming out of London Road - Mark Cooper and Nicky Eaden have been appointed to resurrect Posh's fortunes following a succesful stint at nearby Kettering taking them to 3rd in the Blue Square Premier League !

This match now puts a huge amount of pressure on Blackwell facing the rock bottom side with a new rookie management team
Will Blackwell bottle it Will all his 'injured' players return to quell the murmerings of discontent or.............
will Blackwell blame another defeat on the 'New Manager Syndrome' if the unbelievable happens!!!
It certainly will be interesting down at BDTBL next Saturday!:bomb:

 

[Kev Gee]

We always seem to either loose or draw against teams who are on a bad run. Derby last season & Ipswich this season are two that spring to mind. I suppose we will just have to wait & see who is available for selection.

 

[Bladesway]

Isn't every game in charge massive for Blackwell according to some? If he is on a bad run its massive because people want him sacked. If we are on a good run its massive because of the overbearing expectation from some and if we have just won one then its massive because we need to keep the run going.

It's just one massive game after the other and frankly quite boring. Tedious post by the broken record gang.

 

[sheffieldposh]

'With the appointment of new Peterborough manager Mark Cooper the Posh will be looking to get their new manager off to a flying start at struggling Sheffield United' is the message coming out of London Road - Mark Cooper and Nicky Eaden have been appointed to resurrect Posh's fortunes following a succesful stint at nearby Kettering taking them to 3rd in the Blue Square Premier League !

This match now puts a huge amount of pressure on Blackwell facing the rock bottom side with a new rookie management team
Will Blackwell bottle it Will all his 'injured' players return to quell the murmerings of discontent or.............
will Blackwell blame another defeat on the 'New Manager Syndrome' if the unbelievable happens!!!
It certainly will be interesting down at BDTBL next Saturday!:bomb:

Have you seen our defence , if your not 2-0 up after 20 mins then your in trouble , having spoken to a number of my Blades friends ( I hate SWFC btw ) we think this is going to be a draw, they say Morgan has no pace so our partnership of Mclean & Mackail-Smith have pace so might cause him problems, on the other hand we can defend set-pieces so were in trouble

Looking forward to the day , should be a good match and then afterwards watching the Pigs get stuffed at Ipswich on Sky :thumbup:

 

[Micalijo]

Isn't every game in charge massive for Blackwell according to some? If he is on a bad run its massive because people want him sacked. If we are on a good run its massive because of the overbearing expectation from some and if we have just won one then its massive because we need to keep the run going.

It's just one massive game after the other and frankly quite boring. Tedious post by the broken record gang.

Quite right, I could think of stronger words but watching United under Blackwell, on the whole, is very boring. So are your pathetic efforts to categorise people. It is a massive game for Blackwell. Not sure what is controversial at all about the post.

 

[Bladesway]

Quite right, I could think of stronger words but watching United under Blackwell, on the whole, is very boring. So are your pathetic efforts to categorise people. It is a massive game for Blackwell. Not sure what is controversial at all about the post.

But you answered none of my queries about it being one massive game after another. Categorise people? You do that to yourself.

Oooh and you called my efforts pathetic. Thats just not very nice is it. I believe this site should have a regular prozac dispensation warranty to calm some of its more easily angered customers.

Have a fish Micalijo, it calms the soul.
:fishbowl:

 

[bartman]

'With the appointment of new Peterborough manager Mark Cooper the Posh will be looking to get their new manager off to a flying start at struggling Sheffield United' is the message coming out of London Road - Mark Cooper and Nicky Eaden have been appointed to resurrect Posh's fortunes following a succesful stint at nearby Kettering taking them to 3rd in the Blue Square Premier League !

This match now puts a huge amount of pressure on Blackwell facing the rock bottom side with a new rookie management team
Will Blackwell bottle it Will all his 'injured' players return to quell the murmerings of discontent or.............
will Blackwell blame another defeat on the 'New Manager Syndrome' if the unbelievable happens!!!
It certainly will be interesting down at BDTBL next Saturday!:bomb:

If we win,the doom merchants will just say 'we should beat them anyway' and that the next game is the massive one.

They are all 'massive ' at the moment due to our recent run.

 

[Ollessendro]

Isn't every game in charge massive for Blackwell according to some? If he is on a bad run its massive because people want him sacked. If we are on a good run its massive because of the overbearing expectation from some and if we have just won one then its massive because we need to keep the run going.

It's just one massive game after the other and frankly quite boring. Tedious post by the broken record gang.

Ha ha, there you go 'clapping' away again!?

Of course this game isn't massive for Blackwell. He's taken us through a terrible run without a win in 2 months. We are shipping goals and our strikers can't hit a barn door. We luckily stopped 5 defeats on the bounce and are now faced by bottom of the league at home. The fans are discontent, the football being served up is awful at best, McCabe has got his beady eyes on the Lane, but of course it's 'just another game'!?

Come on face it. If we lose on Saturday then there is a good chance that he will lose his job. Do you not agree come from away?

I'm sure that you will be there clapping away when we get beat and Blackwell balmes someone else. Injuries, new manager syndrome, grounds man, players, whatever. I'm sure he will turn it around at some point. Look at his record last season. It was the selling of the 2 Kyle's that made us lose to bottom of the league. Oh the players (that I bought) are not good enough. I've not had any money. la de da.

 

[Micalijo]

But you answered none of my queries about it being one massive game after another. Categorise people? You do that to yourself.

Oooh and you called my efforts pathetic. Thats just not very nice is it. I believe this site should have a regular prozac dispensation warranty to calm some of its more easily angered customers.

Have a fish Micalijo, it calms the soul.
:fishbowl:

Ok, Lets assume you were up for a sensible debate rather than (yet another from 'you lot' if we can categorise) childish bout of calling people tedious and belonging to gangs.

Yes, for me every United game is massive because it is a big part of my life. I think Fiery was saying that Blackwell is already under pressure (not from all of us but a few and from far more rational fans than me) and a home game against bottom of table team seems a good chance of easing some of the pressure. If we don't win, the pressure goes up a notch in my opinion - and hopefully he will be immediately sacked if we lose. Let's contrast this with say the Swansea away game this season, I don't think defeat in that game damaged Blackwell as much as a defeat on saturday would. Yes it was disappointing and it started this run off but on its own I don't think it was as big a game for Blackwell as Peterborough is.

 

[Bladesway]

The hoards they are a gathering. I'll take the comments one at a time.

Ollessendro. Clapping? Your kidding me aren't you? It's bad down there right now. No defenders, no decent midfielders and our only decent striker wearing a pot and our inability to play down the wings pisses me off greatly. But this isn't something new is it? It isn't new to Blackwell as I see it? Robson was a poor mistake. A man who brought in quality players but couldn't manage to tie his own shoelaces without help. Warnock rarely played with width and the football under him was in the main pretty crap. Anyone remember how long it took him to get us out of this division? I never left a game early in my life till Warnock came along. Anyone remember countless games where he earmarked players like Paul Shaw and Nyron Nosworthy as dangermen, then set his entire tactic to nulify them?

Who in the name of god are we kidding? We haven't played decent football since Kendall/Spackman era so lets not blame one particular bloke for it.

I think our clubs transfer policy is terrible and I think McCabe should actually stand up and tell everyone the truth about what is happening to the money. Because if he did then perhaps the fans would change their mindsets.

Still think I am happy and clappy?

Micalijo. Fair enough, now we have thrown our lego bricks at each other we can both settle down and have a fair debate on it.

First of all, take where I am coming from on this. You and Fiery are amongst a cast of a few who regularly take it on yourselves to beat Blackwell up. Am I wrong? Forget about who is right and who is wrong, you are known for it around these parts. I don't agree that Blackwell is to blame in large parts so thats where we differ in the main. I blame McCabe more for his choice of man at the helm. He has employed Blackwell to get us up on a shoestring but didn't bother to tell him that every time he got a decent player he was going to be sold from under his nose. Blackwell himself is just happy to be here. Its his first real bad run of form in 18 months or so and yet people are calling for his head. Oddly enough I don't think that is right or fair. I don't like the football Blackwell tends to play and I don't like the current situation but I don't ever like to see a manager outed on his ear just because a few fans take their shoes off in the car park.

It shouldn't be a massive game in my opinion and neither should the Barnsley game have been massive (a point at Barnsley is a decent one). We have shown signs of improvement recently but have been thwarted by some woeful bad luck. Newcastles goal was a massive deflection and had we not been the victims of one of the best saves I have ever seen at the Lane then we would have got a point and probably gone home happier that night.

Cardiff smashed and grabbed us in a game where on another day we would have got a point at least.

Then there are the string of injuries. At least give the man a chance to get his team back before you chop his head off. He has a keeper out on a drugs ban (not his fault), our most consistent performer at left back long term injured, Davis injured, Morgan recently suspended (less of a shock I suppose) and now Killer injured. Walker is playing half fit if rumour is to be believed. Thats pretty much bad luck.

Peterborough : New manager so it won't be as easy as it could have been had we played it with Ferguson in charge but I agree we should win. Problem is, people are expecting a cricket score. If we aren't up in 10 minutes will heads go down in the crowd? You maybe don't realise how important the fan reaction is to the team. Start groaning and moaning and it spreads like a virus onto the pitch. This won't be an easy game but it is a game I expect us to win.

Massive was Wigan a couple of years ago. Massive was away at Leicester in 1990, massive was the Burnley game and so was the Wolves game on 03. This isn't massive at all because theres another chance to get three points next week.

There, I hope I have made myself clear. I am not at all happy with things but I don't blame one man for that.

 

[Ollessendro]

The hoards they are a gathering. I'll take the comments one at a time.

Ollessendro. Clapping? Your kidding me aren't you? It's bad down there right now. No defenders, no decent midfielders and our only decent striker wearing a pot and our inability to play down the wings pisses me off greatly. But this isn't something new is it? It isn't new to Blackwell as I see it? Robson was a poor mistake. A man who brought in quality players but couldn't manage to tie his own shoelaces without help. Warnock rarely played with width and the football under him was in the main pretty crap. Anyone remember how long it took him to get us out of this division? I never left a game early in my life till Warnock came along. Anyone remember countless games where he earmarked players like Paul Shaw and Nyron Nosworthy as dangermen, then set his entire tactic to nulify them?

Who in the name of god are we kidding? We haven't played decent football since Kendall/Spackman era so lets not blame one particular bloke for it.

I think our clubs transfer policy is terrible and I think McCabe should actually stand up and tell everyone the truth about what is happening to the money. Because if he did then perhaps the fans would change their mindsets.

Still think I am happy and clappy?

Luke, come with me to the dark side!!??

 

[Micalijo]

No, you are not wrong, although I do try and say what I see - namely some good things in last 3 games, especially spirit of players. Yes, KB must take some credit for that.

I enjoyed reading your post - excellent stuff - but I thought we were talking about this being a big game for Blackwell as an individual.

Obviously the games you mention were huge but there were more improtant things at stake for the club as a whole rather than the continued employment of the manager. This time round, Blackwell's employment is at stake rather than promotion.

I know this sounds like dummy being spat out but I just want to make it 100% clear that I don't expect us to win any game by virtue of resources and league table, I don't expect a cricket score on Saturday and I will never stand in the car-park chanting for a manager to be removed when I could be in the boozer with the lads. I really don't think McCabe looks in the car park and thinks they are right - he has to go. He'll make his own mind up.

 

[super_pig]

>Tedious post by the broken record gang.

tell you what bladesway .. stick this on the player

Tue 15 A Coventry City FLC L 2-3
Fri 18 H Sheffield Wed FLC W 3-2
Sat 26 A Swansea City FLC L 1-2
Tue 29 H Ipswich Town FLC D 3-3
October
Sat 3 H Doncaster FLC D 1-1
Sat 17 A Scunthorpe FLC L 1-3
Tue 20 A Blackpool FLC L 0-3
Sat 24 H Cardiff City FLC L 3-4
November
Mon 2 H Newcastle FLC L 0-1
Mon 9 A Barnsley FLC D 2-2

ten games.. won one.. drawn three. lost six.. what crisis?.. i spit on your crisis..

 

[Come from away]

Ha ha, there you go 'clapping' away again!?

Of course this game isn't massive for Blackwell. He's taken us through a terrible run without a win in 2 months. We are shipping goals and our strikers can't hit a barn door. We luckily stopped 5 defeats on the bounce and are now faced by bottom of the league at home. The fans are discontent, the football being served up is awful at best, McCabe has got his beady eyes on the Lane, but of course it's 'just another game'!?

Come on face it. If we lose on Saturday then there is a good chance that he will lose his job. Do you not agree come from away?

I'm sure that you will be there clapping away when we get beat and Blackwell balmes someone else. Injuries, new manager syndrome, grounds man, players, whatever. I'm sure he will turn it around at some point. Look at his record last season. It was the selling of the 2 Kyle's that made us lose to bottom of the league. Oh the players (that I bought) are not good enough. I've not had any money. la de da.

How come you draggged me into this? I always cheer the blades, they are my team, glad you appreciate what it is to be a supporter. Like I've said before, the problem right now is how the players are performing and yes if they continue this series of weak performances we will change managers but it most likely will change nothing on the field. What Blackwell did was the exception not the rule for mangerial change. This is nonsense to try to put everything on the managers back and making every move a predictor of disaster, particularly in hindsight.

Every team has injuries, what we have is unusual. Every team has a run of bad form and gets dumped by a "weaker" team. Most of what goes on in the club is unknown to us, so many just make it up. I prefer to stick with what I can see, accept what people tell me (through the media) as being honest (simply because being caught in a lie is real bad press). Most of the 'so called' lies come from people missing bits of information out or taking a very narrow interpretation of what has been said. I do not recall any actual lies.

Now, as to this thread I was accidently invited into. The Boro game and all those to Xmas are important as it will demonstrate whether this group can get back together as a team and perform the way many expected. I expect they will as I have no reason to think otherwise. If they don't then every loss makes the next game that much tougher, the pressures the players put on themselves will grow. So a win of any kind will make a lot of difference to the players and their level of confidence.

 

[bartman]

>Tedious post by the broken record gang.

tell you what bladesway .. stick this on the player

Tue 15 A Coventry City FLC L 2-3
Fri 18 H Sheffield Wed FLC W 3-2
Sat 26 A Swansea City FLC L 1-2
Tue 29 H Ipswich Town FLC D 3-3
October
Sat 3 H Doncaster FLC D 1-1
Sat 17 A Scunthorpe FLC L 1-3
Tue 20 A Blackpool FLC L 0-3
Sat 24 H Cardiff City FLC L 3-4
November
Mon 2 H Newcastle FLC L 0-1
Mon 9 A Barnsley FLC D 2-2

ten games.. won one.. drawn three. lost six.. what crisis?.. i spit on your crisis..

So you would sack a manager based on the last ten games and ignore the previous 60 or so games where his points record was more than accetable(granted,not entertaining at times)? Knee jerk reaction ? Surely he deserves at least another 5 games to rectify this.

 

[super_pig]

>Surely he deserves at least another 5 games to rectify this.
yeah ok i'll give him five.. completely pointless but hey..then you come over to the dark side.. ;-) do you think big Kev will though?.. we had all this with robson two years ago.. it is like a rerun

 

[bartman]

>Surely he deserves at least another 5 games to rectify this.
yeah ok i'll give him five.. completely pointless but hey..then you come over to the dark side.. ;-) do you think big Kev will though?.. we had all this with robson two years ago.. it is like a rerun

I think it's different to Robson as he was always useless

I am not convinced KB is right for us but I think it is wrong to judge him on a snap shot of games where we have had injuries .

However,Ward,Monty,Williamson,Camara, Geary,Naysmith are due back now,Morgan back from suspension and hendo(despite his critics) is scoring goals. Whilst I accept we have a problem at centre Half(Walker should play there with Morgan in my opinion with Killa and Davies out),I feel his excuses have now run out and we need to win 3 out of the next 5-all of which I believe are winnable.If he doesn't get this,I believe it will be time for him to go.

 

[shorehamview]

Sacking him if we lose on Saturday may or may not be the answer, but if we do get beaten by Peterborough he needs a bloody good hiding.

 

[Ollessendro]

How come you draggged me into this? I always cheer the blades, they are my team, glad you appreciate what it is to be a supporter. Like I've said before, the problem right now is how the players are performing and yes if they continue this series of weak performances we will change managers but it most likely will change nothing on the field. What Blackwell did was the exception not the rule for mangerial change. This is nonsense to try to put everything on the managers back and making every move a predictor of disaster, particularly in hindsight.

Every team has injuries, what we have is unusual. Every team has a run of bad form and gets dumped by a "weaker" team. Most of what goes on in the club is unknown to us, so many just make it up. I prefer to stick with what I can see, accept what people tell me (through the media) as being honest (simply because being caught in a lie is real bad press). Most of the 'so called' lies come from people missing bits of information out or taking a very narrow interpretation of what has been said. I do not recall any actual lies.

Now, as to this thread I was accidently invited into. The Boro game and all those to Xmas are important as it will demonstrate whether this group can get back together as a team and perform the way many expected. I expect they will as I have no reason to think otherwise. If they don't then every loss makes the next game that much tougher, the pressures the players put on themselves will grow. So a win of any kind will make a lot of difference to the players and their level of confidence.

Relax matey. The tongue sticking out means I am just mucking around. I am astounded that you think KB is still the right man for the job, but that's your opinion.

The bold part is where we will disagree. I think that with such as talented bunch of players a decent manager would turn things around. I think that the players are lacking confidence and that a new boss could change that. I believe in our team/squad. IMHO it is one of the best in the championship. We could beat anyone on our day and should be a really difficult team to beat. Even with injuries the team that we've been putting out has easily been good enough to stuff (or at least get results) against the teams we are playing. This is why I am so frustrated. We have a history of managers coming in and turning things around. KB turned us around, Kendall turned us around, Warnock turned us around. Look at Dowie at Palace, what Robbins is doing at Barnsley, Harry Rednapp came in and turned a team without any confidence into one of the form teams in the premisership, Roy Hodgson came in and did the great escape with Fulham, so did Robson (of all people) with West Brom. I honestly don't believe that KB is the man to take us out of the current predicament, hence I am calling for his head.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Relax matey. The tongue sticking out means I am just mucking around. I am astounded that you think KB is still the right man for the job, but that's your opinion.

The bold part is where we will disagree. I think that with such as talented bunch of players a decent manager would turn things around. I think that the players are lacking confidence and that a new boss could change that. I believe in our team/squad. IMHO it is one of the best in the championship. We could beat anyone on our day and should be a really difficult team to beat. Even with injuries the team that we've been putting out has easily been good enough to stuff (or at least get results) against the teams we are playing. This is why I am so frustrated. We have a history of managers coming in and turning things around. KB turned us around, Kendall turned us around, Warnock turned us around. Look at Dowie at Palace, what Robbins is doing at Barnsley, Harry Rednapp came in and turned a team without any confidence into one of the form teams in the premisership, Roy Hodgson came in and did the great escape with Fulham, so did Robson (of all people) with West Brom. I honestly don't believe that KB is the man to take us out of the current predicament, hence I am calling for his head.

I want his shoes. You can take the rest.

 

[Bladesway]

In all of this sacking Blackwell will not bring about the answer and that is my point entirely and utterly. In fact (and this isn't the answer either) you would be better sacking the bloke that employed him because he doesn't seem to be able to spot a decent manager if he smacked him in the chops and said Hi, I am Mr Wenger and I want to manage your team for free.

1) Teams who chop and change managers NEVER go forward. They go backwards.

2) If he gets his choice XI back and continues to fail I will shut up and go away. There you go, another reason to want Blackwell to fail

3) My belief is that the Chairman should take utter responsibility for all of this. He employed Robson, he then employed Blackwell. Had we got promoted he would have taken most of the plaudits. Well we didn't and much as I like McCabe and most of his work I don't care much for the way he chooses his managers.

4) Give Blackwell to the end of the season and then he will have succeeded or failed. Sack him before and he gets off the hook.

 

[Come from away]

I am astounded that you think KB is still the right man for the job, but that's your opinion.

I know there are just too any posts to recall what others have said BUT I did say he was not my choice etc. However, I am in the camp who see little value in chop and change and also that his previous success (which was a surprise to me) should earn him the chance to show that he can turn this round. I do not think we can afford (having tried and failed with Robson) to pay an established manager with a solid track record, such managers will be looking for Prem jobs and a good wage. As to the alternative, an untried manager, that is someting in which I see little value.

 

[blades1889]

So you would sack a manager based on the last ten games and ignore the previous 60 or so games where his points record was more than accetable(granted,not entertaining at times)? Knee jerk reaction ? Surely he deserves at least another 5 games to rectify this.

didn't southgate get sacked when his team was 2nd?

 

[Fiery Blade]

I don't think we are chopping and changing Blackwell has had nearly two seasons and despite going very close last year we are now in the same position as when we had Robson except with a thinner and weaker squad.
Peterborough, Brighton, Tranmere, Grimsby,Barnsley and Middlesborough all had current results similar to the Blades and they saw fit to try a change!
Give Speed the job with an experienced assistant or mentor

 

[super_pig]

>Teams who chop and change managers NEVER go forward. They go backwards.
teams that stick to useless management due to the above argument go downwards

 

[Blades-7]

I can't take this any longer, we will lose 2-1 I reckon.

 

[boo radley]

I don't think we are chopping and changing Blackwell has had nearly two seasons and despite going very close last year we are now in the same position as when we had Robson except with a thinner and weaker squad.
Peterborough, Brighton, Tranmere, Grimsby,Barnsley and Middlesborough all had current results similar to the Blades and they saw fit to try a change!
Give Speed the job with an experienced assistant or mentor

So you want a Manager to manage your suggested Manager?

 

[Blades-7]

4) Give Blackwell to the end of the season and then he will have succeeded or failed. Sack him before and he gets off the hook.

Are you mentally unbalaced or something?! If he is still in charge by January (which he probably will knowing McCabe), he will f*ck us up so bad by bringing in about 5 or so new hoofers on frees and sell some of the footballers we have. If he is still in charge at the end of the season we will find our selfs playing Colchester, Brighton and Brentford.

So do you want him to be in charge during January so he can f*ck up this once good squad of players some more? Sack now before he can do more damage to us.

 

[bladeinlondon]

Hendo is suspended and cant play - will he play Ward and Evans up front -that would be exciting

 

[Deleted member 1486]

4) Give Blackwell to the end of the season and then he will have succeeded or failed. Sack him before and he gets off the hook.

That's a good plan, if you only want half (at most) of the current season ticket holders to renew.