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We are too reliant on Sharp, who although some said he was past it 2-3 years ago is still knocking them at this level, but he's 32, we can't rely on him forever we desperately need a striker who can find the net.

Sharps 12 goals have won us 15 points this season, if you took those away we'd be 21st, one place above relegation, this to me shows how dependant we are on Sharp this year.

Last year Clarke got 18, Sharp got 10, we didn't depend on one player to get us goals unlike this year, if we don't sign a striker in January then someone has questions to answer as to why.

McGoldrick scored 5 goals this season 4 of which were penalties.
Clarke has 2 in his limited amount of games
Washington yet to score (again in limited amount of games)
Woodburn is no where to be found
Goals from Midfield seems lacking
Goals from Defence is pretty much non existent (remember when Maguire would hit 5-6 a season?)
 



We need two and an attacking midfielder that can play in a pressing system.I'm a fan of Sharp but any decent striker should get the best part of 20 goals in our system. For the amount of service the front men get, their goal returns weren't that impressive last season.
 
What the fuck do you expect?

We're Sheffield United. We're a selling club. We don't buy at cost and 'just get by'.

pommpey
 
We're going to need 3 new strikers and 2 attacking midfielders next season!
 
This is what you get when you sell your best player every season and don't re invest in quality. Looking at the squad fuck knows who we are going to sell to cover the running costs for next season.
 
We're going to need 3 new strikers and 2 attacking midfielders next season!

Pretty much. Had the opportunity to avert this problem in the summer with the Brooks money but obviously thought better of it. Fast forward to January and what do you know, it'll only be loans, meaning we absolutely maximise this problem for the summer. Better hope Bournemouth get a huge fee....
 
If you take Sharp out someone else would be there, we might not score them all but we would have got some so it's a bit much to say we'd be 21st without him.

We need a new striker, but not as bad as we need other positions. Not in the short term anyway, this summer we'll need to buy a striker or two.

Also we're halfway through the season and Bash is on 3 goals, so he could be your 6 a season CB.
 
Also we're halfway through the season and Bash is on 3 goals, so he could be your 6 a season CB.

The fact that he's scored more goals than Washington & Clarke combined should tell you something. He's also scored as many as Goldy if you subtract the penalties. The striker situation is critical because if Billy gets crocked next week we're fucked, we'll finish bottom six.
 
We are too reliant on Sharp, who although some said he was past it 2-3 years ago is still knocking them at this level, but he's 32, we can't rely on him forever we desperately need a striker who can find the net.

Sharps 12 goals have won us 15 points this season, if you took those away we'd be 21st, one place above relegation, this to me shows how dependant we are on Sharp this year.

Last year Clarke got 18, Sharp got 10, we didn't depend on one player to get us goals unlike this year, if we don't sign a striker in January then someone has questions to answer as to why.

McGoldrick scored 5 goals this season 4 of which were penalties.
Clarke has 2 in his limited amount of games
Washington yet to score (again in limited amount of games)
Woodburn is no where to be found
Goals from Midfield seems lacking
Goals from Defence is pretty much non existent (remember when Maguire would hit 5-6 a season?)
I agree with your point, but McGoldrick has scored six, three of which were penalties.
 
We need two and an attacking midfielder that can play in a pressing system.I'm a fan of Sharp but any decent striker should get the best part of 20 goals in our system. For the amount of service the front men get, their goal returns weren't that impressive last season.

We’re exactly half way thro the season, and he’s on 12, so he is on course for 24 goals to be fair.
 
We're going to need 3 new strikers and 2 attacking midfielders next season!
My God, you're right.
I've never really thought of it that way.
Even if we do get a striker and a creative midfielder on loan in January it's only a short term fix.
 
My God, you're right.
I've never really thought of it that way.
Even if we do get a striker and a creative midfielder on loan in January it's only a short term fix.

and a keeper....

I've been banging on about this. Given we have no money, we're going to be totally fucked. We've kept putting it off or signing older players. We should have brought in a young striker in summer, even if it would have been a gamble.
 
and a keeper....

I've been banging on about this. Given we have no money, we're going to be totally fucked. We've kept putting it off or signing older players. We should have brought in a young striker in summer, even if it would have been a gamble.
We have one chance of keeping Henderson- promotion.
You're right, I would have blown all our money (and by all I mean that £5m) on Marriott, young, hungry and full of confidence and goals. He's probably not the kind of striker we are crying out for right now but at least he would have replaced Sharp in the long run.

The keeper thing is depressing enough but come to think of it... what is the future for our strike force!??
 



We are too reliant on Sharp, who although some said he was past it 2-3 years ago is still knocking them at this level, but he's 32, we can't rely on him forever we desperately need a striker who can find the net.

Sharps 12 goals have won us 15 points this season, if you took those away we'd be 21st, one place above relegation, this to me shows how dependant we are on Sharp this year.

Last year Clarke got 18, Sharp got 10, we didn't depend on one player to get us goals unlike this year, if we don't sign a striker in January then someone has questions to answer as to why.

McGoldrick scored 5 goals this season 4 of which were penalties.
Clarke has 2 in his limited amount of games
Washington yet to score (again in limited amount of games)
Woodburn is no where to be found
Goals from Midfield seems lacking
Goals from Defence is pretty much non existent (remember when Maguire would hit 5-6 a season?)
The way we play is the problem.We are obsessed with crosses and can’t seem to play quickly through the middle.Our crosses take far too long to materialise and opposition defences get forever to prepare for the inevitable
How many deflected shots have resulted in goals against us? if we shot a bit more I’m sure we could get a piece of the action.
I’ve often seen Sharp early on in attacking play hand up in space unmarked quite central to goal waiting for an intelligent through ball only to be overlooked in favour of playing pretty triangles near the opposition byline which
by the time it’s eventually put in the box is ineffective due to a packed defence.
We have a Fox in the box striker that with the right service could hit 25 goals a season at this level.......easy.
I’m appreciative of the football Wilder has brought but our obsession with reaching the byline is why we are slowly
Moving towards a mid table finish.
 
We have one chance of keeping Henderson- promotion.
You're right, I would have blown all our money (and by all I mean that £5m) on Marriott, young, hungry and full of confidence and goals. He's probably not the kind of striker we are crying out for right now but at least he would have replaced Sharp in the long run.

The keeper thing is depressing enough but come to think of it... what is the future for our strike force!??

Unless we're one of the favourites for promotion next season, there's no chance Henderson will be here. And it would only be on loan. I can see him going to a lower Premiership side.
 
Unless we're one of the favourites for promotion next season, there's no chance Henderson will be here. And it would only be on loan. I can see him going to a lower Premiership side.
He's worked his way up the leagues really, he's proved already he's premiership level.
To be honest he's good enough to be De Gea's understudy for a year then maybe even a replacement when he moves on.
Even if he doesn't make a career at Man U he's at least done enough for them to take him back and have another look at him for a year or so.
 
and a keeper....

I've been banging on about this. Given we have no money, we're going to be totally fucked. We've kept putting it off or signing older players. We should have brought in a young striker in summer, even if it would have been a gamble.

You & me both. If we don’t get promoted this season, we’re screwed and we’re in for 2 or 3 seasons of struggle followed by relegation. The depth and age profile of the squad is genuinely scary, our 1st keeper is owned by someone else and we’ve been reliant on one player for the majority of our goals since July ‘15. We have no money to rectify this situation. When I say ‘no money’, I mean not sufficient an amount to pay the going rate for players needed, which could number 4 or 5 in close season and in one go. And yet we are happily approaching the waterfall in our little barrel, laughing at Wednesday’s demise. We’ll be following them over if we’re not careful. :oops:
 
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You & me both. If we don’t get promoted this season, we’re screwed and we’re in for 2 or 3 seasons of struggle followed by relegation. The depth and age profile of the squad is genuinely scary, our 1st keeper is owned by someone else and we’ve been reliant on one player for the majority of our goals since July ‘15. We have no money to rectify this situation. When I say ‘no money’, I mean not sufficient an amount to pay the going rate for players needed, which could number 4 or 5 in close season and in one go. And yet we are happily approaching the waterfall in our little barrel, laughing at Wednesday’s demise. We’ll be following the over if we’re not careful. :oops:

We should have taken a punt on a young lower league striker with potential last summer/JTW. It was stupid to just bring McG in and not think about the future.

Because we've done no future planning then whoever we bring in this summer will have to be the finished article.
 
The fact that he's scored more goals than Washington & Clarke combined should tell you something. He's also scored as many as Goldy if you subtract the penalties. The striker situation is critical because if Billy gets crocked next week we're fucked, we'll finish bottom six.

Bottom six?! Come on. Glass isn’t even half empty!

Wigan are sixth bottom and at the halfway mark, they have 25 points. We have 38. Not always as simple as this, but to suggest we wouldn’t get 12 points from 23 games just because Billy is injured is madness.

Lighten up, it’s Christmas!
 
We should have taken a punt on a young lower league striker with potential last summer/JTW. It was stupid to just bring McG in and not think about the future.

Because we've done no future planning then whoever we bring in this summer will have to be the finished article.

We got Washington, he made the wrong move from Peterborough, going to a hit and hope team, whereas Marriott went to FLDC who craft chances. Given some minutes (hard to find I know) Washington has potential I think, he's done everything but score in his few appearances, should've scored against Blackburn, hit the bar with a bicycle kick against a team I forget, had a good assist to get us 3 points against Brentford.

If we'd have got him straight from the Posh we'd have all been over the moon I think.
 
We need two and an attacking midfielder that can play in a pressing system.I'm a fan of Sharp but any decent striker should get the best part of 20 goals in our system.

20 goal a season men are a lot rarer than you think.

Plus there is a massive disconnect at times between the possession we have and the chances we create. The stats show Sharps conversion rate is very good, the opposite of McGoldrick's.
 
Pretty much. Had the opportunity to avert this problem in the summer with the Brooks money but obviously thought better of it. Fast forward to January and what do you know, it'll only be loans, meaning we absolutely maximise this problem for the summer. Better hope Bournemouth get a huge fee....

You do understand that we have used the Brooks money to plug the loss we will make this year don’t you?! If the owners aren’t willing to put their own cash in then we didn’t really have any choice. Until we have an owner willing to put £8m+ a year in we will be in the same position.

I can’t criticise them as unfortunately I don’t have this money to put in myself, nor does anyone on here, yet still they moan like fuck about the lack of investment. Maybe if it was your personal wealth dwindling by £8m each year you might think differently.
 
Sharps 12 goals have won us 15 points this season, if you took those away we'd be 21st, one place above relegation, this to me shows how dependant we are on Sharp this year.

I like stats, but using them to talk complete and utter bollocks to make a point is just nonsense. I didn't get beyond this point.

Without Sharp we'd be 15 points worse off - But we're not without him, we have him, that's why we have those 15 points.
We're dependant on Sharp - Sure, he's scored 12 goals, but last season he didn't play as much, Leon did and got 18 goals, we weren't as dependant on him last season, we still got goals. imagine that.

The point you're probably making is that we need more players to score more goals. So why not say that rather imagining some fictitious doomsday scenario.

Happy Sunday.
 
20 goal a season men are a lot rarer than you think.

Plus there is a massive disconnect at times between the possession we have and the chances we create. The stats show Sharps conversion rate is very good, the opposite of McGoldrick's.

I think we create less chances with Mcgoldrick in the team, because he's rarely in the box so the players are reluctant to put the ball in to an isolated Sharp. Fleck has also become a peripheral figure in a creative sense as Mcgoldrick is essentially doing his job. It'd be interestng to compare chance creation this season compared to the first half of last season. I've heard that our expected goals is right up there this season, but that was some time ago.There's also the argument that these strikers should help in the creation of chances, and not be completely reliant on service. I don's see any of them doing that.Maybe Mcgoldrick?
 
Bottom six?! Come on. Glass isn’t even half empty!

Wigan are sixth bottom and at the halfway mark, they have 25 points. We have 38. Not always as simple as this, but to suggest we wouldn’t get 12 points from 23 games just because Billy is injured is madness.

Lighten up, it’s Christmas!

It’s horseshit. 101 ways to write how shit we are / will be.
 



Bottom six?! Come on. Glass isn’t even half empty!

Wigan are sixth bottom and at the halfway mark, they have 25 points. We have 38. Not always as simple as this, but to suggest we wouldn’t get 12 points from 23 games just because Billy is injured is madness.

Lighten up, it’s Christmas!

It’s horseshit. 101 ways to write how shit we are / will be.

We'd play with 10 men. Surely that's obvious!
 

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