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Seemed to get our crosses in a little quicker last night with less faffing about with short passes when we get into crossing positions. As a result, created more clear cut chances. Wilder has said we must do this and it's clear they've worked on it and are now applying it. Well done all.:)

Just need to work on not dropping deep and giving possession away cheaply when defending a lead in the dying minutes now!:rolleyes:
 



Bayingblade said:
Seemed to get our crosses in a little quicker last night with less faffing about with short passes when we get into crossing positions. As a result, created more clear cut chances. Wilder has said we must do this and it's clear they've worked on it and are now applying it. Well done all.:)

Just need to work on not dropping deep and giving possession away cheaply when defending a lead in the dying minutes now!:rolleyes:
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It was certainly an open game and they were trying to get in behind us as well, so it did give us space in behind. If anything they were very poor at the back.

But credit to United, it would’ve been easy to change our style after the last two draws and then going a goal down early last night, but we didn’t. We got at them in true United style

Thought Washington did well, hadn’t realised it was him until mid way through the first half
 
Why when we drop deep do we look incredibly vulnerable, and when opposition drop deep become the inpenitrable parked bus ?? One of the mysteries of the Blades..........

Another mystery is we play pass-pass-pass for the first half, then can't string 3 together when holding a slender lead.
 
SwissBlade said:
It was certainly an open game and they were trying to get in behind us as well, so it did give us space in behind. If anything they were very poor at the back.

But credit to United, it would’ve been easy to change our style after the last two draws and then going a goal down early last night, but we didn’t. We got at them in true United style

Thought Washington did well, hadn’t realised it was him until mid way through the first half
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Swiss not surprising they were poor at the back...they sold their best 2 defenders to us ! How did Mepham play? They apparently turned down 10m+ for him !
 
FriethBlade said:
Swiss not surprising they were poor at the back...they sold their best 2 defenders to us ! How did Mepham play? They apparently turned down 10m+ for him !
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They were just generally poor at the back, if anything our finishing was wayward and we had a number of clear cut chances which, had we been more clinical then we could’ve had a few more
 
Yes we made a lot more early crosses last night and when we were in behind seemed to fizz the crosses in harder and quicker. I also thought we went long more than we do normally which helped us stretch the game, and also played on the counter really well.

As much as I love the way we control possession and play pass & move, it is important to mix it up and not overplay when building up attacks. A blend of style and efficiency.
 
As much as it pains me to admit, I was generally pleased with our performance last night. A bit of a curate’s egg, but overall positive vibes. :)
 
Bayingblade said:
Just need to work on not dropping deep and giving possession away cheaply when defending a lead in the dying minutes now!:rolleyes:
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Large Mendonca said:
Another mystery is we play pass-pass-pass for the first half, then can't string 3 together when holding a slender lead.
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The problem isn't so much the passing itself. It's that, in the last few minutes, everyone drops so deep that whoever has hold of the ball doesn't have any forward options. On the face of it, it looks as though they've suddenly lost the ability to pass and become sloppy in possession. In reality, it's that they have nowhere to go except risky passes sideways or even backwards. It's a cliche, but that's why the best form of defense is to have attacking options.
 
Bayingblade said:
Seemed to get our crosses in a little quicker last night with less faffing about with short passes when we get into crossing positions. As a result, created more clear cut chances. Wilder has said we must do this and it's clear they've worked on it and are now applying it. Well done all.:)

Just need to work on not dropping deep and giving possession away cheaply when defending a lead in the dying minutes now!:rolleyes:
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I thought overall we were comfortably the better side BUT for long periods in the 2nd half, we played into their hands. You could see from the moment we equalised, that they were short on confidence and we could have had 4 or 5 in the first half. In the second half we seemed to sit back and let them have the ball for long periods. Now, I know they didn't really trouble us (equaliser apart) but using the ball is what they like to do and while we were letting them do it, you could see the confidence coming back to them as they knocked it about quicker as time wore on. I'm pretty sure that if we'd continued to boss the game rather than managing it, we would have had a much healthier scoreline. But a win is a win, now bring on Leeds.
 
him behind you said:
I thought overall we were comfortably the better side BUT for long periods in the 2nd half, we played into their hands. You could see from the moment we equalised, that they were short on confidence and we could have had 4 or 5 in the first half. In the second half we seemed to sit back and let them have the ball for long periods. Now, I know they didn't really trouble us (equaliser apart) but using the ball is what they like to do and while we were letting them do it, you could see the confidence coming back to them as they knocked it about quicker as time wore on. I'm pretty sure that if we'd continued to boss the game rather than managing it, we would have had a much healthier scoreline. But a win is a win, now bring on Leeds.
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Quite right. We’ve dropped our standards in terms of keeping possession lately. The solution, however, is to regain those standards, not the nonsense euphemisms that always emerge from the ever-eager kickitard brigade when we dare to lose a game or have an off day.
 
Said it before & I'll say it again. I don't care if we have 70% of the ball or 30% of the ball as long as we still create chances. Last night was a perfect example, we finished the game having only 34% possession but we also had 18 shots & put 3 of those away.

I'll take the latter for the rest of the season if it means we score more goals / get better results.
 
Geordie Blade said:
The problem isn't so much the passing itself. It's that, in the last few minutes, everyone drops so deep that whoever has hold of the ball doesn't have any forward options. On the face of it, it looks as though they've suddenly lost the ability to pass and become sloppy in possession. In reality, it's that they have nowhere to go except risky passes sideways or even backwards. It's a cliche, but that's why the best form of defense is to have attacking options.
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I reckon you've explained it very well - when the game is being compressed like that it's harder to find the space to play the game that takes place early doors.
 
Bayingblade said:
Seemed to get our crosses in a little quicker last night with less faffing about with short passes when we get into crossing positions. As a result, created more clear cut chances. Wilder has said we must do this and it's clear they've worked on it and are now applying it. Well done all.:)

Just need to work on not dropping deep and giving possession away cheaply when defending a lead in the dying minutes now!:rolleyes:
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Biggest area to improve for me is the crossing. We get into great positions but it feels like 80% of the crosses go long by a good yard or two. If we could improve on that and just get 50% of crosses onto Blades heads, (or even just in the correct area of the box) we would get an extra goal or 2 a game. UTB
 
TCsLoveChild said:
Biggest area to improve for me is the crossing. We get into great positions but it feels like 80% of the crosses go long by a good yard or two. If we could improve on that and just get 50% of crosses onto Blades heads, (or even just in the correct area of the box) we would get an extra goal or 2 a game. UTB
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It seems to be becoming a lost art. It’s actually really difficult to put a good cross in. Anyone can float a ball in, one that favours the defenders, but to curl one onto the striker’s head with pace is a real skill.

I wonder if it’s related to the new, lighter balls? Are they easier to overhit? Even the PL players get it wrong more than they get it right.
 



We saw it last night for the 3rd goal and could do it more often instead of all this less successful over playing and floated ball to nowhere stuff. Make progress down the channels, early ball in hard, fast and on the deck to a player running in around the penalty spot.
If its delivered well our player can hit it first time and just has to choose which side to put it, keeper can't come for it and does well to save it if on target and hit firmly.
Doesn't need Messi levels of skill and its not hoof its intelligent low/moderate skill football.
When I played Sunday pub league yonks ago we did this, it can be very effective.
 
Bayingblade said:
Seemed to get our crosses in a little quicker last night with less faffing about with short passes when we get into crossing positions. As a result, created more clear cut chances. Wilder has said we must do this and it's clear they've worked on it and are now applying it. Well done all.:)

Just need to work on not dropping deep and giving possession away cheaply when defending a lead in the dying minutes now!:rolleyes:
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I have said we need to do this, as have many others.

The longer we wait to put it into the danger zone the harder it is to score.

We need players in there though or no point!

Washington was great at that last night.
 
SwissBlade said:
It was certainly an open game and they were trying to get in behind us as well, so it did give us space in behind. If anything they were very poor at the back.

But credit to United, it would’ve been easy to change our style after the last two draws and then going a goal down early last night, but we didn’t. We got at them in true United style

Thought Washington did well, hadn’t realised it was him until mid way through the first half
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Buy a programme yer tight get! Or get in the ground for kick off to hear the teams announced yer pissheadd!

Sorry!:oops:
 
Large Mendonca said:
Why when we drop deep do we look incredibly vulnerable, and when opposition drop deep become the inpenitrable parked bus ?? One of the mysteries of the Blades..........

Another mystery is we play pass-pass-pass for the first half, then can't string 3 together when holding a slender lead.
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It is a worry , & nothing new . When we drop back deep as we do , it always feels to me like any team that has a good little spell , and puts balls into our box is going to score eventually.
 
blade53 said:
It is a worry , & nothing new . When we drop back deep as we do , it always feels to me like any team that has a good little spell , and puts balls into our box is going to score eventually.
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I thought you were writing a poem there!

It is a worry,
And nothing new,
When we drop back deep,
As we do,
It always feels to me,
Like any team that has a good little spell,

(I’ll finish it for you...)

Is going to concede again,
And make us all shout,

Fuckin’ hell!
 
Bayingblade said:
Seemed to get our crosses in a little quicker last night with less faffing about with short passes when we get into crossing positions. As a result, created more clear cut chances. Wilder has said we must do this and it's clear they've worked on it and are now applying it. Well done all.:)

Just need to work on not dropping deep and giving possession away cheaply when defending a lead in the dying minutes now!:rolleyes:
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Exactly what I thought. Taking a chance on an earlier ball rather than trying to get the perfect pass. I bumped into Alan Knill on the way back and asked him why we defended so deeply in the 2nd half at 2-1. That leveller seemed obvious as we dropped back. In a concise reply he said "we had to" , "3 goals away from home" and "should have scored 6". That put me in my box.
 
oldblade said:
Yes, in your head and your head only.

Could you please show me an example of those cries for hoof on this thread please?
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Certainly.

less faffing about with short passes
#1

I don't care if we have 70% of the ball or 30% of the ball as long as we still create chances.
#12

When I played Sunday pub league yonks ago we did this, it can be very effective.
#16

“it was pleasing that we hoofed a bit” #21

Taking a chance on an earlier ball rather than trying to get the perfect pass.
#26

There, not hard to find, was it? At least #21 was honest. Excruciatingly embarrassing, but honest.

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We should have a spin the wheel at the side of the pitch
Every time we don't score or conceded possession we give it a spin and completely change tactics, personnel and style of play

The players will just adapt ,being the top drawer world class superstars that they are .of course training will have to be 8 sessions a day
 
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