When did we last have a better team ?

[SuperDuperBlades]

I presume you rate Warnock above Wilder then?

Warnock was operating under a different regime. No fucking prince.

 

[8lade]

Webber, Shipperley and Akinbiyi were shit then?

No but they aren't better than Sharp or McGoldrick. Clarke potentially is abetter bet than the others but isn't doing it at the moment.

 

[Sheffsteel]

The warnock team just had a habit of winning, even when we were poor, we near always found a way to win.
However the football that wilder plays is miles better and also you’d have to say the division is much harder these days

I used to laugh to myself when we had Warnock, sometimes we were crap, almost embarrassingly crap BUT we’d still win.
Opposition fans never gave us any praise and I can understand why.
This team (football style wise) is on another planet compared to the Warnock era.
Although everynow and then we did play well under NW and it was entertaining.

 

[Harrisblade]

This is the best footballing side we've ever had.
Greater individual skill, better passing skills, better movement on and off the ball.
Only thing we're missing is the Woody thunderbolt shot ,
but overall, this team's the best.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

How folk can say a side that included Monty would beat this team with a straight face is unbelievable.

For all his technical limitations as a footballer, I’ve seen him nullify better midfielders than Coutts & Norwood. For all his technical limitations, he had the a heart, balls & legs of a lion and it’s no coincidence that our fall through the leagues coincided with him leaving.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

No but they aren't better than Sharp or McGoldrick. Clarke potentially is abetter bet than the others but isn't doing it at the moment.

Shipperley has more Premier League appearances and goals than all of our current strikers combined.

He was also our top scorer in 2005-06.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

For all his technical limitations as a footballer, I’ve seen him nullify better midfielders than Coutts & Norwood. For all his technical limitations, he had the a heart, balls & legs of a lion and it’s no coincidence that our fall through the leagues coincided with him leaving.

I've just double checked, and it seems that my memory has played me false. He appears to have been an ever present during our fall through the leagues. In that case, it's partly his fault. Sod him, he was sh*t.

 

[Edinblade]

You're talking rubbish.

Come back when this team has achieved automatic promotion to the Premier League and then we'll talk.

Rather than saying he’s talking rubbish, why not appreciate the time he’s taken to state an opinion, even though it differs to yours. I happen to agree with him. After all there’s no way it can be proven one way or the other.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Rather than saying he’s talking rubbish, why not appreciate the time he’s taken to state an opinion, even though it differs to yours. I happen to agree with him. After all there’s no way it can be proven one way or the other.

I did appreciate it.

It was well written and concise.

Still twaddle though.

 

[Edinblade]

I did appreciate it.

It was well written and concise.

Still twaddle though.

 

[8lade]

Shipperley has more Premier League appearances and goals than all of our current strikers combined.

He was also our top scorer in 2005-06.

Reasonable points:

Shipperly played one season for us and this is the season I am comparing him to waht we have now (which seems reasonable to me). In that season, in the second tier he scored 11 goals in 34 games which he started and 5 as a substitute. So about a goal in 3 games; this season Sharp has 7 in 8 starts (2 sub apps) and McGoldrick 4 in 7 starts (4 sub apps) both vastly superior strike rates than Shipperly. You may want to compare the number of top tier goals scored but since Shipperly didn't do this for Sheffield United I don't see the point.

 

[Working Class Hero]

I'm just going to throw it in there for the sake of debate, what about the 2008-09 team? They only finished one place behind the Warnock promotion team, and higher than any of Wilder, Kendall or Spackman's teams. All with a far inferior manager.

Kenny

Walker - Morgan - Kilgallon - Naughton

Ward/Cotterill - Speed - Howard - Quinn

Beattie - Sharp/Webber

 

[Tom Bott]

Give me Jagielka, Morgan and the wealth of striking options from Warnock's side

Yes that 05/6 season we had some 13 or so players who scored.

What we were lacking in the second half of last season.

 

[Willie Carlin]

Warnock's premier league flirtation ?
Bassets team ?
Or does it go back even further ?

We never have a better consistent team in my years of watching the Blades (65). The 70/71 had some great games but this side are better in my opinion.

 

[tomtheblade]

It depends how you interpret the question.

Is it the current side vs an older one (eg Warnocks 02/03 or 05/06) ..in an actual one-off time travel style game?

Or is it the current one in it's own league vs an older team in that league at the time?

For the latter we just need to wait and see what happens, how far this team ultimately can go & then we can compare.

For the former it's hard to say. Vs the Warnock sides already mentioned I think it would be close. They had a better defence but the current team has a much stronger midfield imo.

 

[Robby Blade]

We never have a better consistent team in my years of watching the Blades (65). The 70/71 had some great games but this side are better in my opinion.

I've got to concur with Willie. I've seen better teams, but these lads have given me the greatest pleasure. They are a joy to watch.

 

[Revolution]

I'm just going to throw it in there for the sake of debate, what about the 2008-09 team? They only finished one place behind the Warnock promotion team, and higher than any of Wilder, Kendall or Spackman's teams. All with a far inferior manager.

Kenny

Walker - Morgan - Kilgallon - Naughton

Ward/Cotterill - Speed - Howard - Quinn

Beattie - Sharp/Webber

That team had the best defence we've had in my lifetime, although it was Naysmith at LB and Naughton at RB for the vast majority of the time.

By October 2010, we had one of those defenders save Walker on loan. We lost him in January. That gives you an idea of why we went down.

 

[JackSUFC]

I'm just going to throw it in there for the sake of debate, what about the 2008-09 team? They only finished one place behind the Warnock promotion team, and higher than any of Wilder, Kendall or Spackman's teams. All with a far inferior manager.

Kenny

Walker - Morgan - Kilgallon - Naughton

Ward/Cotterill - Speed - Howard - Quinn

Beattie - Sharp/Webber

Imagine what Wilder would've been able to do with that squad/budget. In fact, imagine what any half-decent manager would've been able to do with that squad/budget.

 

[Blend-it-like-Harris]

Would our current team have beaten Hull at Boothferry Park in 1988? I try to imagine Duffy carrying the ball past defenders whilst watching this video:

Times have changed.........be grateful we don't have to watch games like that any more.

 

[Pinchy]

It might be just the way you're sat, but i like the cut of your jib, young man. In recent years, that was indeed a very good side, as was the later version that got promoted. Spackman's side of of early 97/98 was a good 'un, as was Kendall's of 96/97.

It wasn’t Spackman’s side.

 

[blade too long]

Would our current team have beaten Hull at Boothferry Park in 1988? I try to imagine Duffy carrying the ball past defenders whilst watching this video:.

hed have more chance if he wasnt watching a video

 

[Pinchy]

For all his technical limitations as a footballer, I’ve seen him nullify better midfielders than Coutts & Norwood. For all his technical limitations, he had the a heart, balls & legs of a lion and it’s no coincidence that our fall through the leagues coincided with him leaving.

He was utterly fucking useless. He nullified nobody. Half-decent players ran rings round him and left him chasing shadows.

 

[Sheffsteel]

According to Wikipedia
In 08-09 Walker was on loan at Northampton.
Walker and Naughton only ever played together for United on TWO occasions.

 

[Pinchy]

This team plays far and away the best football since the John Harris days. A joy to watch. Proper football played the right way. That rules out Bassett and Warnock for me.

 

[Sheffsteel]

He was utterly fucking useless. He nullified nobody. Half-decent players ran rings round him and left him chasing shadows.

Agree that half decent players in the Championship did run rings around Montgomery.
But his 1 season in the PL was his highlight and he did more than OK.
Top class players in the PL seemed to struggle. He was like a Yorkshire Terrier snapping at their heels and they hated it.
There’s the famous quote from Frank Lampard Jnr, who said Monty was one of the toughest opponents he’d faced.

 

[Revolution]

According to Wikipedia
In 08-09 Walker was on loan at Northampton.
Walker and Naughton only ever played together for United on TWO occasions.

Walker came in for the Swansea game, the penultimate game of the season, after Naysmith got injured at Burnley. He played the last 2 league games and all 3 playoff games. Naughton played in all 5 of those games.

Naughton came in after Sun Jihai got sent off against Coventry in September and was ever present in all competitions for the rest of the season.

 

[I should coco]

According to Wikipedia
In 08-09 Walker was on loan at Northampton.
Walker and Naughton only ever played together for United on TWO occasions.

Also the Beattie that finished the season was vastly inferior to the one that started the season.

Once James had gone to Stoke, McCabe realised we had loads of pre-printed shirts to clear. I don't think people appreciate how difficult it was to find another top striker called Beattie . We couldn't, so we signed Craig anyway. I think Blackwell liked him because he was big and athletic....

.....and crap.

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

For consistency over a long period the 2 semi finals/Wolves debacle team is still above this one for me.

Ask again in May

Agreed - some really good players in the form of their lives, so for me this edges Warnock's promotion winning team.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

This team plays far and away the best football since the John Harris days. A joy to watch. Proper football played the right way. That rules out Bassett and Warnock for me.

The best football is the one that wins the most football matches. You don't get any points for possession or completed passes.

Wilder still has a long way to go before he's even in the same league as Bassett and Warnock.

 

[Pinchy]

The best football is the one that wins the most football matches. You don't get any points for possession or completed passes.

Wilder still has a long way to go before he's even in the same league as Bassett and Warnock.

I’m talking about the pleasure of watching the beautiful game played properly. You appear to be unable to appreciate that. You should follow a Sunday League team, preferably in S2. That would be fitting.

You have your standards; I have mine. I’m content.