BBC erase us from Speed's career

[Davalon]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45545066

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

We're not a big name.

 

[TJB.]

Think we can let that one slide considering the subject matter.

 

[itsinyerblood]

There was also no mention of the other clubs that Speed played for.

Just a brief example of condensing a player's life under what have been distressing circumstances..

 

[Rodders]

Do people actually get bothered by stuff like this?

 

[SwissBlade]

There was also no mention of the other clubs that Speed played for.

Just a brief example of condensing a player's life under what have been distressing circumstances..

The article covers all clubs except us

“During a 22-year career, Speed played for Leeds United, Newcastle United, Everton, Bolton Wanderers and Wales, for whom he won 85 caps.”

He started his management career with us.

As someone that followed him as a player I was very proud that he played for us and likewise that he managed us.

 

[Davalon]

Blimey I've not suggested I'm angry or disgusted by it.

Just stuck out like a sore thumb that not only do they not mention him playing with us for a couple of seasons, but also just suggest he retired from playing to become Wales manager.

Like Swiss says, I was over the moon when he signed, even at 38. A player I'd admired for years on and off the pitch.

 

[Davalon]

There was also no mention of the other clubs that Speed played for.

Just a brief example of condensing a player's life under what have been distressing circumstances..

???

 

[itsinyerblood]

The article covers all clubs except us

“During a 22-year career, Speed played for Leeds United, Newcastle United, Everton, Bolton Wanderers and Wales, for whom he won 85 caps.”

He started his management career with us.

As someone that followed him as a player I was very proud that he played for us and likewise that he managed us.

No idea what I must have read, apologies anyway.

Put the omission down to journalistic oversight, but as TomJonesBlade said, under the circumstances probably not worth over-egging this particular sadness.

 

[mattbianco1]

I've erased his management from my memory

 

[wizadry]

Blimey I've not suggested I'm angry or disgusted by it.

Just stuck out like a sore thumb that not only do they not mention him playing with us for a couple of seasons, but also just suggest he retired from playing to become Wales manager.

Like Swiss says, I was over the moon when he signed, even at 38. A player I'd admired for years on and off the pitch.

Ignore em pal, people get outraged at any simple post nowadays, it’s gone beyond ridiculous.

You’ve posted something that should’ve involved the Blades in some regard, yet for some reason we’ve been ignored. That doesn’t mean you’re annoyed or anything, sometimes it’s just a post without any emotions, yours was clearly this but people find time to have a pop at something, fuck em.

 

[Davalon]

Ignore em pal, people get outraged at any simple post nowadays, it’s gone beyond ridiculous.

You’ve posted something that should’ve involved the Blades in some regard, yet for some reason we’ve been ignored. That doesn’t mean you’re annoyed or anything, sometimes it’s just a post without any emotions, yours was clearly this but people find time to have a pop at something, fuck em.

Just thought it worthy of a mention considering his 3 years with us was the only part of his career they failed to list, especially when it encompassed player, coach and manager.

 

[GrayBlade]

We're not a big name.

Like Bolton?

 

[wizadry]

Just thought it worthy of a mention considering his 3 years with us was the only part of his career they failed to list, especially when it encompassed player, coach and manager.

It was, no more, no less, no histrionics.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Like Bolton?

Bolton are a bigger name than us to anyone under the age of 30.

 

[wizadry]

Bolton are a bigger name than us to anyone under the age of 30.

My son is 13 and he’s just said what are you on about?

 

[SwissBlade]

No idea what I must have read, apologies anyway.

Put the omission down to journalistic oversight, but as TomJonesBlade said, under the circumstances probably not worth over-egging this particular sadness.

I disagree, as a fan of speed when he played, given the pride that he played for us and given that it really hit me when he died, it was because he was connected with our club.

Normally I’d brush this sort of omission off but because of the circumstances I think it’s quite dismissive that they haven’t included the Blades in his playing or managerial career notes.

 

[itsinyerblood]

I disagree, as a fan of speed when he played, given the pride that he played for us and given that it really hit me when he died, it was because he was connected with our club.

Normally I’d brush this sort of omission off but because of the circumstances I think it’s quite dismissive that they haven’t included the Blades in his playing or managerial career notes.

Then you must do what you must do Swiss. Personally, although I agree that we should have had our place in GS's career noted, the circumstances surrounding Gary's death are sufficiently distressing to let things rest.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

My son is 13 and he’s just said what are you on about?

Your son is biased.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

You’ve posted something that should’ve involved the Blades in some regard, yet for some reason we’ve been ignored.

It’s not exactly a mystery why though. If you were to ask the average football fan which clubs you would most associate Speed with, it’ll be a small minority that would mention us. We’re a fairly insignificant footnote in what was otherwise an excellent footballing career at the top level. That might sound harsh, but it’s the reality. And in truth, we’re also the club that rated him the least too – a harsh reality of the age he joined us.

I was delighted when he joined, but I remember having arguments with plenty on here about his contribution to the team, and at games he was often made the scapegoat – very harshly in my opinion. That first season people seemed to channel their dislike for Robson towards what was perceived by them as being Robson’s guy on the pitch, and that seemed to remain when Blackwell joined. I think the turning point for most of his critics was the Bristol City game at the end of that season where having been forced to replace Big Ugo in the middle of defence (he’d been injured giving away a pen), he led the defence, scored an immediate equaliser heading in a corner, and then converted a penalty to ultimately win it. After that, and the renewed optimism in preseason, he seemed to lose most of his detractors.

 

[wizadry]

It’s not exactly a mystery why though. If you were to ask the average football fan which clubs you would most associate Speed with, it’ll be a small minority that would mention us. We’re a fairly insignificant footnote in what was otherwise an excellent footballing career at the top level. That might sound harsh, but it’s the reality. And in truth, we’re also the club that rated him the least too – a harsh reality of the age he joined us.

I was delighted when he joined, but I remember having arguments with plenty on here about his contribution to the team, and at games he was often made the scapegoat – very harshly in my opinion. That first season people seemed to channel their dislike for Robson towards what was perceived by them as being Robson’s guy on the pitch, and that seemed to remain when Blackwell joined. I think the turning point for most of his critics was the Bristol City game at the end of that season where having been forced to replace Big Ugo in the middle of defence (he’d been injured giving away a pen), he led the defence, scored an immediate equaliser heading in a corner, and then converted a penalty to ultimately win it. After that, and the renewed optimism in preseason, he seemed to lose most of his detractors.

I can’t argue with those reasons, a great reply LB.

 

[GrayBlade]

Bolton are a bigger name than us to anyone under the age of 30.

Not sure they’ll be remembered for anything positive, more like the club that’s always about to go pop but survives.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

A lot of people seeing it from the Blades' point of view, but when I see things like this - like reports on people who've died - and there's a mistake, I wonder how much the journalist bothered with the research for the article. (Same for spelling/grammatical mistakes). I think it is incredibly disrespectful to the deceased, it doesn't matter really what we think, or whether others think SUFC are unimportant, it was a chapter in his life when he played and moved into management. It's poor and lacking respect. It should be correct.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Not sure they’ll be remembered for anything positive, more like the club that’s always about to go pop but survives.

I think they'll probably be remembered for being the quintessential Premier League underdogs/battlers under Sam Allardyce.

Not to mention countless memorable wins against some of the top teams in the country, two UEFA Cup runs, a League Cup final and the reputation they developed for being able to attract former world class players such as Campo, Hierro, Djorkaeff, Okocha and Anelka.

 

[Punk Blade]

The football coverage on the BBC website is so full of factual errors and complete nonsense it’s bewildering.

 

[metalblade]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45545066

Good.

 

[Bladesman]

A lot of people seeing it from the Blades' point of view, but when I see things like this - like reports on people who've died - and there's a mistake, I wonder how much the journalist bothered with the research for the article. (Same for spelling/grammatical mistakes). I think it is incredibly disrespectful to the deceased, it doesn't matter really what we think, or whether others think SUFC are unimportant, it was a chapter in his life when he played and moved into management. It's poor and lacking respect. It should be correct.

Totally agree. If he had played one or two matches for us then I could maybe understand us not being mentioned in the article. I think not mentioning us considering he was here for 3 years as a player, coach and manager is pretty disgraceful even by the BBC's standards. One simple glance on Gary's wikipedia page would have told the "journalist" all they needed to know.

 

[bromtom]

All they have to do is change

During a 22-year career, Speed played for Leeds United, Newcastle United, Everton, Bolton Wanderers and Wales, for whom he won 85 caps.

After retiring as a player he became Wales' manager in December 2010.

To

During a 22-year career, Speed played for Leeds United, Newcastle United, Everton, Bolton Wanderers, Sheffield United and Wales, for whom he won 85 caps.

Moving into coaching and then management while at Bramall Lane, he became Wales' manager in December 2010.

Accurate and describes his career better, for the sake of not many more words.

 

[GrayBlade]

I think they'll probably be remembered for being the quintessential Premier League underdogs/battlers under Sam Allardyce.

Not to mention countless memorable wins against some of the top teams in the country, two UEFA Cup runs, a League Cup final and the reputation they developed for being able to attract former world class players such as Campo, Hierro, Djorkaeff, Okocha and Anelka.

Ahhh right. I’d no idea they were so brilliant. You’re obviously well into them.

Personally I wasn’t really interested in their magnificent battles against all the odds or who they signed. I just thought that they were a shitty club under an obnoxious manager that I didn’t rate, and that they always seemed to be sailing to close to the wind.

 

[super_pig]

heh wind yer necks in lads
it’s not a conspiracy it’s simply typical lazy bbc journalism
did you expect anything else?
probably written by some 24 year old who also does the in depth ‘1970’s comedian’ orbituaries