Neil Warnocks selective memory/talking out of his arse

[don240]

I quite like Warnock

WRONG ANSWER

 

[Bladesway]

They don't call him the Mourinho of the lower leagues for nothing. Absolutely brilliant until his tactics become ineffective, at which point the histrionics and superiority complex normally kick in.

What a nasty bully who treats people with shitty distain and makes shit up about his greatness? Yeah, ok I'll take that.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Our 2006-07 team was better than his current Cardiff team so he has to set up differently.

Either that or he's learnt over the years that you might as well have a go.

Sign of a good manager.

 

[INTAKE BLADE]

He could never surpass the season he took us up, no matter how many times he messages the egos of his latest/previous clubs.

 

[Steve Mackan]

We did win 3x more games in the PL under Warnock than Burnley did in their first season in the PL under Dyche.

I do 'get' the animosity. But he did oversee a period of time in our club where we sorted out our finances, improved our youth system and latterly, had a bit of success - more than Wilder has. (Not that I think Wilder can't/won't do that.)

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Negative hoofball. Blame the ref/your fans/the board for every poor result. Pick your favourites regardless of form. Hold grudges with your players. Nothing has ever been his fault.

I can't stand the man

Don't forget the coach driver.
I sure i remember one once getting lost so we arrived late.

 

[TCsLoveChild]

Murphy and Reid must be "ones for the future".

Madine is definitely one for the past! UTB

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

When i was a lad.

 

[Chali 2na]

We did win 3x more games in the PL under Warnock than Burnley did in their first season in the PL under Dyche.

I do 'get' the animosity. But he did oversee a period of time in our club where we sorted out our finances, improved our youth system and latterly, had a bit of success - more than Wilder has. (Not that I think Wilder can't/won't do that.)

How much of the off the pitch improvement do you attribute to Warnock?

 

[davidblade]

Watching Match of The Day 2. Interview with Neil Warnock “We’re not good enough to park the bus so I will have a go”. Just like the away matches in 2006/7. One up front every game inviting pressure on a defence that wasn’t good enough. This bloke just boils my piss more and more as the years go on. Hoping so much that he takes the taffy twats back down. Thank god for Chris Wilder and his attacking ethos away from home.

Yes it was Warnocks fault we went down , his negative play cost big time, and I don’t get this thing about being a loyal blade. He only has love for one thing and that’s himself.

 

[dynamoblade]

People chat bollocks about the Warnock era. It was legendary. We had a blade in charge, we didnt have a barrel of money and yet smashed the piggies and got to play in the top division beating a few quality sides along the way. What more can a football fan actually ask?
Not to mention he was a character and was actually entertaining when interviewed. God bless Wilder but his interviews put me to sleep most of the time.

Warnock always reminds me of Cloughie senior in terms of his old fashioned manner, sense of humour, slight ego and ability to rub nobheads up the wrong way. It was great and he should never have gone when he did. Sir Neil of Warnock should really have been made manager for life until young William was old enough to take over.

Anyone who thinks differently wants their heads read, everything between Warnock and Wilder (possibly with exception of cloughie junior's cup run) was god awful tripe and frankly unimaginable if Warnock had stayed.

 

[derfblade.3]

Could do with a haircut though!

 

[davidblade]

I quite like Warnock

Well cunts are useful

 

[GallonofMagnet]

Sacked by Xmas. Just like we probably should have done.

Not that he’ll be bothered. He preempted that when he negotiated his new 2-year contract in February. Wise old Wazza.

 

[Steve Mackan]

How much of the off the pitch improvement do you attribute to Warnock?

At least some part of it. He did play the kids too.

 

[Caseh]

Yes it was Warnocks fault we went down , his negative play cost big time, and I don’t get this thing about being a loyal blade. He only has love for one thing and that’s himself.

The part you're forgetting, it was because of him we went up in the first place. I don't like him as a person, but I have 0 complaints about what he did for us.

 

[Chali 2na]

At least some part of it. He did play the kids too.

I don't think playing the kids can be regarded as "improving the youth sytem" - 'utilising' the youth system, maybe.

My point being, as much as do appreciate Warnock, I don't think he deserves much (if any) credit for developing the club off the pitch.

 

[Steve Mackan]

I don't think playing the kids can be regarded as "improving the youth sytem" - 'utilising' the youth system, maybe.

My point being, as much as do appreciate Warnock, I don't think he deserves much (if any) credit for developing the club off the pitch.

You might well be right. I can't claim to know one way or the other. I do know that we were in a damn better position after he left than when he took over.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

The “like” is for apostates, monotheistic and iconography.

Fuck me gently...

 

[Tom Bott]

Yes it was Warnocks fault we went down up

 

[Sean Thornton]

We did win 3x more games in the PL under Warnock than Burnley did in their first season in the PL under Dyche.

I do 'get' the animosity. But he did oversee a period of time in our club where we sorted out our finances, improved our youth system and latterly, had a bit of success - more than Wilder has. (Not that I think Wilder can't/won't do that.)

The finances were sorted out by share issues not NW. His own academy claims give him more or less all the credit, again, not the case.

NW was here seven years. Wilder has been here how long?

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Even the Mourinho of the top league, is annoying cunt these days too.

 

[Steve Mackan]

The finances were sorted out by share issues not NW. His own academy claims give him more or less all the credit, again, not the case.

NW was here seven years. Wilder has been here how long?

Point being that a crap manager, executing poorly their on-the-field business, risks the 'rest of it', off it.

 

[Sean Thornton]

The part you're forgetting, it was because of him we went up in the first place. I don't like him as a person, but I have 0 complaints about what he did for us.

I remember the promotion season and the good times under him. But the incessant chasing of money was more important to him. Yes he got us up, that was his job. Keeping us up was also his job. The claims that he wasn't backed - remember "for the future" - as the reason we were relegated ignore his abject failures in the top division. The Pompey issue left a particular nasty taste in the mouth, saying he'd been offered the job despite Mandaric denying he'd even been offered it. Quite a few Chairman would have sacked him there and then. That was all about contract renewal. Money.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

The finances were sorted out by share issues not NW. His own academy claims give him more or less all the credit, again, not the case.

NW was here seven years. Wilder has been here how long?

Warnock got us to an FA Cup Semi Final, League Cup Semi Final, championship Runners-Up, Play Off Final and 10th, 13th, 3rd, 8th, 8th & 2nd in his full seasons in charge in the championship. As good as CW is, and as much as I hope he does for us, even the most rabid warnockophobe must admit that’s not too shabby a record?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Point being that a crap manager, executing poorly their on-the-field business, risks the 'rest of it', off it.

Well we've brought a few good younsters through under crap managers.

We were losing money under Warnock as well. I'm not blaming him for that but the idea that he improved the club's finances in some way save for the promotion season, is aclaim of Warnockesque proportions.

 

[snootyfenooty]

I don't think playing the kids can be regarded as "improving the youth sytem" - 'utilising' the youth system, maybe.

My point being, as much as do appreciate Warnock, I don't think he deserves much (if any) credit for developing the club off the pitch.

Wrong again. The deal he had with Mr McCawber was that he understood then, as always, that we had to sell to survive but a percentage of the proceeds (30% of it I think) went straight into the running costs and development of the academy. Without him our academy wouldn't be what it is now.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Warnock got us to an FA Cup Semi Final, League Cup Semi Final, championship Runners-Up, Play Off Final and 10th, 13th, 3rd, 8th, 8th & 2nd in his full seasons in charge in the championship. As good as CW is, and as much as I hope he does for us, even the most rabid warnockophobe must admit that’s not too shabby a record?

I've referenced the good times. I was there and loved it. I've explained why I'm not his biggest fan. The current point seems to be he turned the club around financially and youth policy wise single handedley. McCabes bank manager, John Warnock and Ronnie Reid will think otherwise.

 

[Chali 2na]

Wrong again. The deal he had with Mr McCawber was that he understood then, as always, that we had to sell to survive but a percentage of the proceeds (30% of it I think) went straight into the running costs and development of the academy. Without him our academy wouldn't be what it is now.

Wrong again? Where was I first wrong?

How do you know about the deal McCabe and Warnock had together by the way?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Wrong again? Where was I first wrong?

How do you know about the deal McCabe and Warnock had together by the way?

Warnock's book?