Well done England ...

[Esablade]

Who's saying people are and aren't allowed to support England? Would've thought there was little that could be done to stop it.

...that was slightly tongue-in-cheek.

 

[LJBlade]

...that was slightly tongue-in-cheek.

As I assumed

 

[Esablade]

As I assumed

..only slightly.

 

[Darthblade]

I will put my head over the parapet. I was very worried before the tournament that Southgate was the wrong choice as manager and an FA stooge, he was a shit club manager. I was worried that he had picked a squad too young that didn't have the experience required when the need to dig in was required. I was miffed that Henderson was even considered at all and a clever player that could unlock a defence like Wilshere was left at home in his place. However I did not at any time therefore want England to lose, I was pissed off at the selection as I thought it was wrong. I will now say that I like what he has done as he (Young apart) has put a broom through the squad and is building for the future. I think he made a slight miscalculation (which is evident with his playing down our chances all the time) in that he did not realise the way our side of the draw would open up with Germany and Spain biting the bullet, making it possible to go a long way.
I'm enjoying it and hope we can go all the way.

Agreed in the main mate …..

I'm not a big fan of Southgate as I think he picks players because they play for the "big" Clubs ….. not because they're in form or solid in their chosen position. eg. Stirling …… nowhere near being an international player and Henderson who is an average premiership player.

UTB & FTP

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

It's not the real England fans who get a bit over emotional who need to fuck themselves.

It's the lefty self nationality loathing saddoes.

They are the ones I was aiming the OP at!!! Unfortunately, a fair few of them have attached themselves to the national team and ruined it for the rest of us, normal, down to earth sorts.

 

[8lade]

Jesus Christ Fenton 3 victories against teams we should beat and we're going to win the world cup and 'it's coming home'. It is not fucking coming home we haven't played a good side yet (given Belgiums 2nd string played) , the team is playing well but apart from a couple of Harry's there's nowt special about this lot, it's like listening to Wednesday fans FFS! Southgate is not a manager who inspires - if he'd been appointed United's job we'd have seen a riot. Fuck me 3 wins against a bunch of turds, for fucks sake.
And this thread is in the wrong section.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

We are doing a lot better than I predicted, and I think we can make the semis.

However, Southgate needs to:

1. stop being so miserable
2. take a look at English players outside the Prem, and;
3. stop playing that shithouse Sterling. Being English and playing in the Prem should not be the minimum requirements to play for England.

We are doing a lot better than I predicted, and I think we can make the semis.

However, Southgate needs to:

1. stop being so miserable
2. take a look at English players outside the Prem, and;
3. stop playing that shithouse Sterling. Being English and playing in the Prem should not be the minimum requirements to play for England.

Yeah I know, I really don't like Sterling.

I think Southgate is a total prick.
Always have , always will.
Oh and the actual game last night was like watching paint dry.
Doesn't mean I'm anything other than wanting England to win it.
Oh..anyone explain why Kane's heel,, when he's facing goal, means an accidental fluke contact is a Kane goal, but Trippier heading into his own net is not an own goal?

 

[super_pig]

I'm not looking to blame anyone here, it was what it was and it will continue to be this way, we're in a very good period with the players we have now. Several things have happened such as Iceland, but probably more likely, Wales was the biggest turning point in terms of mentality as England fans started to see the Welsh team, many of whom played at smaller clubs in the Prem and god forbid the Championship.

2016 was probably the lowest i've felt as an England fan, but this was before the Iceland game.

Coincidentally, around the same time as Englands lows. Southgate came in, Leicester won the Premier league and along with Burnley, English football has been embarrassed at the top because these things aren't meant to happen.

The old guard has gone and they've been replaced with a breed of players that know the value of life, Vardy, Trippier, Maguire and the like because they've come through a different way.

The Shearer Generation still don't all quite get it though. Martin Keown, whom i often really agree with (a lot of the time) said on 5 Live this morning that players like Vardy and Maguire were nearly lost to the game as they were playing in the lower divisions. I think Keown misses the point here, those players have become the players they are because of their experiences.

I think there is still the belief that England selection should only come from Premier League teams, but perhaps this world cup shows that players are rising to the top wherever they start out

Keown is a prick.. he was almost making fun of Japan over their relative size. until they were two up and he suddenly realised they were half decent and he started back tracking like crazy
i got the impression that Harry and Vardy were the two players who weren't phased at all by the rough house tactics. just like playing against Madine

 

[Bashar Al Asaba]

it's like listening to Wednesday fans FFS!

Nailed it, 100%.

Every single tournament I have to endure this shite.

 

[Pinchy]

Ah, the flag-wavers hit back.

Please take this garbage to an “England” forum or at least have the courtesy to remove it to “other football”



Nasty little nation.

 

[super_pig]

Ah, the flag-wavers hit back.

Please take this garbage to an “England” forum or at least have the courtesy to remove it to “other football”

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Nasty little nation.

yet you choose to live here. perhaps you'd prefer somewhere else.. like North Korea??

 

[Pinchy]

yet you choose to live here. perhaps you'd prefer somewhere else.. like North Korea??

Not really. I am British, of Irish descent. My home and what remains of my family are here. So are United.

I want to contribute, in some small way, to making this country a little more tolerant, a little more compassionate. These things have given way to bigotry and selfishness, especially since June 2016 when hatred was allowed above the waterline.




Patriots.

 

[I should coco]

FFS! Southgate is not a manager who inspires - if he'd been appointed United's job we'd have seen a riot.

Quote of the day, week and month!

Well said sir!

Fuck me 3 wins against a bunch of turds, for fucks sake.

Ah, but we all know there are no easy games in international football.

And this thread is in the wrong section

Good point.

Have you met Pinchy ?

 

[Rodders]

Southgate is not a manager who inspires - if he'd been appointed United's job we'd have seen a riot. Fuck me 3 wins against a bunch of turds, for fucks sake.
And this thread is in the wrong section.

Quote of the day, week and month!

Well said sir!

Not a manager who inspires? Did either of you watch the game on Monday? The team were flat on their arse after the 1st half of Extra Time; 2nd half they came out and their calmness and composure allowed themselves to assert themselves back into the match and they had the better half of the 2 sides.
Under any other manager in the last 20 years, that team would have camped further and further back, launching long ball after long ball out of the box and they would have lost that game. But no doubt Eric Dier coming on as sub was the fault Mina was unmarked at the corner in the 97th min?
Inspiring a team isn't just about PASHUN as Southgate proves.

 

[I should coco]

Not a manager who inspires? Did either of you watch the game on Monday? The team were flat on their arse after the 1st half of Extra Time; 2nd half they came out and their calmness and composure allowed themselves to assert themselves back into the match and they had the better half of the 2 sides.

True but 8lade's point remains valid. If he'd been appointed in the last 5 years there would have been a right shitstorm at the Lane.

I have to say he has surprised me as I thought he was appointed as a yes man who looks good in an FA blazer. He's proving to be more of his own man but let's see what happens when we come up against a decent team (and I don't mean half decent Sweden).

 

[DaveBassettsgoneonholiday]

Not really. I am British, of Irish descent. My home and what remains of my family are here. So are United.

I want to contribute, in some small way, to making this country a little more tolerant, a little more compassionate. These things have given way to bigotry and selfishness, especially since June 2016 when hatred was allowed above the waterline.

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Patriots.

What's Peter Gabriel done, I must have missed that ?

 

[YES Blade]

True but 8lade's point remains valid. If he'd been appointed in the last 5 years there would have been a right shitstorm at the Lane.

I have to say he has surprised me as I thought he was appointed as a yes man who looks good in an FA blazer. He's proving to be more of his own man but let's see what happens when we come up against a decent team (and I don't mean half decent Sweden).

It's not the quality of the team that is the worry for me, it's how we handle the pressure of playing at a major tournament.

It's a cliche but "there are no easy matches in international football", it's obviously not true as we showed against Panama, but you just have to look at the big nations that have struggled to see that a lot of teams are very difficult to beat.

All nations now have a few players playing in top European leagues and are well organised to make it very difficult. Yes, England "should" be winning the matches we have, but Germany should have got out the group and Italy should have qualified etc etc.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Not really. I am British, of Irish descent. My home and what remains of my family are here. So are United.

I want to contribute, in some small way, to making this country a little more tolerant, a little more compassionate. These things have given way to bigotry and selfishness, especially since June 2016 when hatred was allowed above the waterline.

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Patriots.

Forgive my ignorance, it that's what it is. Can you remind me who the men are in the pictures?.

Of course your contributions towards a more harmonious world are to be encouraged. Bigotry and intolerance can be seductive bedfellows, and therefore need to be resisted in whatever way seems appropriate.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Not really. I am British, of Irish descent. My home and what remains of my family are here. So are United.

I want to contribute, in some small way, to making this country a little more tolerant, a little more compassionate. These things have given way to bigotry and selfishness, especially since June 2016 when hatred was allowed above the waterline.

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Patriots.

Air conditioning may help you. It's warm out.

 

[Houston_Blade]

I'll agree a bit about that but to me its like mirroring with our club. so pissed off about the decision making from the top down at times yet we all continue to support. And so it should be with the National team. Blame the FA for setting up that out of their control monster that is the premier league. That started the disconnect with the fans and then the players. Over paid prima donnas bla bla bla. It hastened the decline of the England team. It has taken a bloke who did not really want the job and someone none of us would have chosen to put a bit of humble pride and a realisation that we have no divine right. just as United have no divine right to expect success.
Through those crap times I still supported the Nation I love and am a part of, just as I supported the club I love and am a part of.

The thing is though, I'm assuming you chose to support the Blades but didn't choose to be born in England. This is where I have issues with those who fiercely criticise people who aren't that bothered about the national team.

I didn't choose to be English it just happened. I have been overseas to watch England and have seen them a few times over the years in England as well, it wasn't a great experience and now, as much as I want them to do well, I don't consider myself a supporter of England, just someone with an interest because of where I was born. I don't get upset if they lose and don't go mad if they win.

I also follow the results of Chesterfield as this is where I was born but I don't support them and although I like to see them do ok, I wouldn't get upset if they lost.

I don't support another country because that would be stupid, however I like the way that certain teams play (although in this world cup they've all been shit!) and like to watch them play.

Is there anything wrong with my stance and viewpoint?

 

[1066blade]

Good post and it mirrors how I feel about the England team and supporting them. I lost interest after 2002 when we had the team to win the World Cup but the prima donnas and a fool of a manager who couldn't recognise that Scholes was the best England midfield player at the time fcked up. Gerrard and Lampard were only interested in playing for their Clubs. Ferdinand has admitted they didnt talk to each other and there were Club cliques. The turgid ultra negative nervous tournament football we played mirrored the subsequent managers and players alike.

Credit to Southgate for engineering club team spirit at a national level but only 12 months ago we were being treated to the delights of Doug Livermore in midfield with Henderson and Dier. Somehow more by chance than design he seems to have stumbled upon a formation that brings the best out of the players he has. Yet last night in his most important game he reverted to type and went ultra defensive in the last 10 minutes and nearly threw the game away. He has Pickford and Dier to thank for not being pilloried this morning.

The team have rode their luck with decisions and VAR has been a big help. Only 1 goal scored in open play and the obsession with playing Young and Sterling when Rashford and Rose would provide more balance pace and scoring threat may yet catch Southgate out. For the moment its good to see a young group of players playing for each other in England shirts but the manager needs to pick an attacking minded team if they are to progress.

England are more watchable at the moment but mainly because there are two Blades playing with pride. Do I get all patriotic when watching England? For me no they are the country of my birth so I follow them but its not Sheffield United and I would swap an England World Cup win for Blades promotion to the premiership any day of the week. If they get to the final, which I think is unlikely, I will watch it in a Blades pub as the thought of a sweaty pig wanting to hug and kiss me if England score is just one step too far.

Good post. Totally agree re Young and Sterling, and why the f*ck have we been subjected to the dross delivered by the likes of Delph? - and Danny fuk@in Drinkwater not so long ago.

 

[BushBlade]

The thing is though, I'm assuming you chose to support the Blades but didn't choose to be born in England. This is where I have issues with those who fiercely criticise people who aren't that bothered about the national team.

I didn't choose to be English it just happened. I have been overseas to watch England and have seen them a few times over the years in England as well, it wasn't a great experience and now, as much as I want them to do well, I don't consider myself a supporter of England, just someone with an interest because of where I was born. I don't get upset if they lose and don't go mad if they win.

I also follow the results of Chesterfield as this is where I was born but I don't support them and although I like to see them do ok, I wouldn't get upset if they lost.

I don't support another country because that would be stupid, however I like the way that certain teams play (although in this world cup they've all been shit!) and like to watch them play.

Is there anything wrong with my stance and viewpoint?

Not at all imo. I have no issue with those that don’t support England or are ambivalent about them. It’s the ones who jump on threads about England criticising or saying ‘I’m not really bothered about England’. Fine, don’t fucking bore me with your shit then. I don’t like fishing, I don’t go on fishing forums to say I don’t like it, why post on an England thread if you don’t like England?

 

[BushBlade]

Not really. I am British, of Irish descent. My home and what remains of my family are here. So are United.

I want to contribute, in some small way, to making this country a little more tolerant, a little more compassionate. These things have given way to bigotry and selfishness, especially since June 2016 when hatred was allowed above the waterline.

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If you truly want to make the country a little more tolerant and a little more compassionate (admirable sentiments imo) then a good start would be to stop using stereotypes. They’re the foundation of bigotry.

 

[I should coco]

then a good start would be to stop using stereotypes.

Kick it high, kick it hard, kick it long.

They don't like it up 'em in S2!

 

[YES Blade]

Not at all imo. I have no issue with those that don’t support England or are ambivalent about them. It’s the ones who jump on threads about England criticising or saying ‘I’m not really bothered about England’. Fine, don’t fucking bore me with your shit then. I don’t like fishing, I don’t go on fishing forums to say I don’t like it, why post on an England thread if you don’t like England?

Agree 100%, I have no issue with people not liking international football or not supporting England, it's the English people that seem to take great delight in seeing England fail that I can't stand. Why the hate? No one takes delight in our Olympians, Rugby, Cricket teams etc. losing so why the hate towards football?

 

[super_pig]

Not really. I am British, of Irish descent. My home and what remains of my family are here. So are United.

I want to contribute, in some small way, to making this country a little more tolerant, a little more compassionate. These things have given way to bigotry and selfishness, especially since June 2016 when hatred was allowed above the waterline.

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Patriots.

coming from a guy that posts some of the most bigoted comments on the forum.. kettle? black?

 

[Pinchy]

Forgive my ignorance, it that's what it is. Can you remind me who the men are in the pictures?.

Of course your contributions towards a more harmonious world are to be encouraged. Bigotry and intolerance can be seductive bedfellows, and therefore need to be resisted in whatever way seems appropriate.

One murdered an MP. The other plotted to do so. Each were/are members of Right-wing racist organisations. They were emboldened to stick their worthless heads above the parapets by the 2016 Referendum.

One, a waste of oxygen named Thomas Mair, shouted ‘Britain First’ as he killed an elected representative of democracy, Jo Cox. The other sub-human, one Jack Renshaw belongs to an illegal Neo-Nazi group National Action. He bought a machete with which he planned to kill another MP, Rosie Cooper and subsequently a police officer.

Both groups march behind the flag of St. George.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Slightly impressed with England so far. The Tunisia match was the sort that they'd have have drawn usually but they managed to carry on and dig out a winner, which was very unusual. Panama were a pub side but still a pretty good result. Belgium was a concern. First half decent side they play and they get turned over. Also, they created few chances without their top players.

Columbia were overrated and a right bunch of cheating bastards. Glad England beat them and winning on penalties, like the late winner against Tunisia, was very un-English. Summat might be about to happen...

Any road, England is a great country, if you choose to get behind the team fair play to you.

 

[Davalon]

Not really. I am British, of Irish descent.

The reason for the chip becomes clear.

 

[Davalon]

As for Southgate, he deserves some credit imho.

Not just for the team's progress, but for the way he conducts himself. His interviews are excellent and his composure on Tuesday night after the game was class when compared to Pekerman.

I listened to the radio in the car yesterday and they were commenting on how good a motivational speaker GS is at corporate events.

I think he's underestimated because of his over all demeanour.

Compare him to that cunt Keane and despite his more prestigious club career, it's laughable watching the bitter ex player pundit look like a dinosaur at the side of the player he tried to do alongside many others.