CW on RS

[Woodwardfan]

I wish he'd stop using the word 'group'. It's either 'squad' or 'team' or 'starting 11' or 'the players'.

I suppose modern management speak Is the pole opposite to your chosen pseudonym Nicolaus.

 

[SwissBlade]

I get where you're coming from Swiss but I listened to the interview and the boardroom stuff was the biggest thing he said from that interview.and therefore was worthy of the headline. What else could the headline say? Leon's back for Saturday! That might have being valid but its likely to be a dead rubber and the boardroom debacle is the most important thing we sort out.

You can tell from the interviews that Wilder is being very diplomatic and I would guess he is desperate for it to be sorted out as it effects his team planning for next season and much more.

Big in what sense? Wilder isn't involved in the ownership talks. Its an almost irrelevant statement aimed at click-baiting

Wilder was commenting at the end of the season with a little bit of a summary, but with a look ahead to the weekends game.

Wilders stand out comment of relevance was that he wants us to go out and give the last two games a real go as a thank you for this seasons support.

I guess we should be thankful that they didn't use this:

"Wilder: I don't always pick the right team"

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

A realisation that we're not ready, presumably based on current form, is hardly the same as these mythical "fans" not wanting us to go up or being joyous that we hadn't.

It's often those who got giddy earlier in the season who are now doom and gloomers saying the squad isn't good enough and bizarrely suggesting it's the fault of other fans who took an optimistic but guarded view rather than looking up pubs to go to on PL away trips just three months into the season.

I can understand 'we're not ready', in all scenarios apart from ours. Promotion from conference to League 2, League 2 to 1 etc...where the financial benefits are minimal.

However, the financial gains for promotion to the Premier League should give anyone a chance of 'being ready'. Even in the worst case scenario and relegated on 11 points like Derby, it would set us up for a good crack the next season providing the money is invested wisely. Look at the like of Burnley these days.

 

[Booker4]

Big in what sense? Wilder isn't involved in the ownership talks. Its an almost irrelevant statement aimed at click-baiting

Wilder was commenting at the end of the season with a little bit of a summary, but with a look ahead to the weekends game.

Wilders stand out comment of relevance was that he wants us to go out and give the last two games a real go as a thank you for this seasons support.

I guess we should be thankful that they didn't use this:

"Wilder: I don't always pick the right team"

The boardroom stuff is the biggest thing happening to the club, even before when we could make the play offs. So naturally as the manager of our club, Wilder's views on the ownership are very important, because if Wilder's not happy then United are vulnerable to him leaving wouldn't you say?

They wouldn't use the Wilder doesn't always pick the right team because it was an honest admission that Wilder can't get it right every time but no manager can and its often only with hindsight that a selection seems good or bad. Wilder and Giddings get on well and Gidds would have being a total arse to do that. We're lucky to have Radio Sheffield in my view, Giddings especially.

 

[Esablade]

The boardroom stuff is the biggest thing happening to the club, even before when we could make the play offs. So naturally as the manager of our club, Wilder's views on the ownership are very important, because if Wilder's not happy then United are vulnerable to him leaving wouldn't you say?

They wouldn't use the Wilder doesn't always pick the right team because it was an honest admission that Wilder can't get it right every time but no manager can and its often only with hindsight that a selection seems good or bad. Wilder and Giddings get on well and Gidds would have being a total arse to do that. We're lucky to have Radio Sheffield in my view, Giddings especially.

..makes one wonder how much all the boardroom unrest has affected the management team...

 

[Sean Thornton]

I can understand 'we're not ready', in all scenarios apart from ours. Promotion from conference to League 2, League 2 to 1 etc...where the financial benefits are minimal.

However, the financial gains for promotion to the Premier League should give anyone a chance of 'being ready'. Even in the worst case scenario and relegated on 11 points like Derby, it would set us up for a good crack the next season providing the money is invested wisely. Look at the like of Burnley these days.

I meant we were shown not to be ready by dismal performances against struggling teams in the second half of the season. The lack of a decent amount of money invested in January - wait until the ownership matter is settled and we'll see why - meant we were short of a striker and strength in depth. However, I doubt that anyone didn't want us to go up because of that.

Your point about the PL riches is of course bang on the money. The problem is, despite the "they don't want to go up, they're making money already" nonsense is that they don't have the money to facilitate that final push, or buy a direct replacement for Coutts, who would have cost millions, IF, one could be found.

At the end of the day, the only joy I can see about us not going up is in the posts of the odd members claiming the unambiguous are happy.

In short, the money's not there. We as fans can't do anything about that.

 

[grafikhaus]

100m changes that for any team if spent correctly.

It's ridiculous for anyone to turn down an opportunity for that. I seriously don't get the whole 'we're not ready for promotion' bollocks.

But the teams that will get promotion - Wolves (£60.6m), Villa (£67.8m), Fulham (£37.4m), Derby (£41.1m), Middlesbrough (£62.7m), even Cardiff (£18.6m- nearly four times the amount we've spent) etc. have already spent the thick end of £100m to get there - you've got to spend money to make money. Plus, the minor detail that all these teams have owners that make McCabe look like a pauper - even Shahid Khan at lil' ol' Fulham ... Guo Guangchang, the chairman of Fosun Group (owners of Wolves) has a personal wealth of £4.1 billion. Tony Xia is a Chinese billionaire whose Recon Group bought Villa for £76m. Here's the new reality in English football. Not 'bollocks', just reality.

The only time we'll be 'ready for promotion' is if/when we get seriously wealthy backing. That way, when a pivotal player like Coutts gets injured, we don't apply a 'sticking plaster' to the problem, we buy in as good as, or better. At the end of 2017, The Fosun Group said they 'would spend whatever it takes' to get Wolves promoted. C'mon, McCabe. Get thi hand in yer pocket...

PS, just seen your post Sean Thornton .

 

[Booker4]

..makes one wonder how much all the boardroom unrest has affected the management team...

I'm sure a lot is the honest answer but saying that they're totally professional and I don't think we're unlikely to not made the play offs because of the background stuff. The players will be focused on the football but next season's planning is going to be based on the budget that may well be changed after the ownership is sorted out. Then there's Brooks situation which no doubt will rumble on all summer and he'll possibly leave near the end of the window and we'll be left with little time to spend the money! That's a big fear for me, although not as big as the ownership debacle.

 

[ghandi]

It's highly unlikely a "decent" contract doesn't set out various scenarios on which a price may be calculated for the shares, dependent on the trading figures and more importantly league position. The property price etc will be subject to professional valuations. As it's now moved to litigation then clearly someone has changed their mind and/or tried to move the goalposts. I really don't understand what you expect them to say at the moment.

Irrespective of our current position we know KM doesn't have the money and as Forbes magazine put the Princes wealth at £144m a few years ago, we know he doesn't appear to have either. That's a bigger concern for me.

The Prince says he has backers but for some reason won't reveal to McCabe who they are hence McCabe not playing ball.

 

[Esablade]

I'm sure a lot is the honest answer but saying that they're totally professional and I don't think we're unlikely to not made the play offs because of the background stuff. The players will be focused on the football but next season's planning is going to be based on the budget that may well be changed after the ownership is sorted out. Then there's Brooks situation which no doubt will rumble on all summer and he'll possibly leave near the end of the window and we'll be left with little time to spend the money! That's a big fear for me, although not as big as the ownership debacle.

..just when we were flying, back in the Champ, this shit kicks in...'it's the Blades way'.

 

[super_pig]

all this board speculation is making me sleepy
Zzz Zzzz .. what! .. what?

nowt

 

[stringer]

Wilders stand out comment of relevance was that he wants us to go out and give the last two games a real go as a thank you for this seasons support.

He wants United to go out and give every game a real go. Standout line by far was boardroom stuff

 

[Boxer Blade]

..just when we were flying, back in the Champ, this shit kicks in...'it's the Blades way'.

I keep hearing 'blades way' mentioned esa, when I first read it I thought it was a new bypass around Bramall Lane, still not sure.

 

[SUFC Guy]

He basically said "If this Saudi Prince doesn't provide the funding this summer then I'll walk...
































like an Egyptian"

 

[LJBlade]

Who would that be then?

I have it on good authority that there are many people on here who are happy that we aren't getting promoted. They're known as the 'small-minded ones'.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

But the teams that will get promotion - Wolves (£60.6m), Villa (£67.8m), Fulham (£37.4m), Derby (£41.1m), Middlesbrough (£62.7m), even Cardiff (£18.6m- nearly four times the amount we've spent) etc. have already spent the thick end of £100m to get there - you've got to spend money to make money. Plus, the minor detail that all these teams have owners that make McCabe look like a pauper - even Shahid Khan at lil' ol' Fulham ... Guo Guangchang, the chairman of Fosun Group (owners of Wolves) has a personal wealth of £4.1 billion. Tony Xia is a Chinese billionaire whose Recon Group bought Villa for £76m. Here's the new reality in English football. Not 'bollocks', just reality.

The only time we'll be 'ready for promotion' is if/when we get seriously wealthy backing. That way, when a pivotal player like Coutts gets injured, we don't apply a 'sticking plaster' to the problem, we buy in as good as, or better. At the end of 2017, The Fosun Group said they 'would spend whatever it takes' to get Wolves promoted. C'mon, McCabe. Get thi hand in yer pocket...

PS, just seen your post Sean Thornton .

I don't see what people have spent in this league so far has anything to do with the Blades being ready or not?

 

[Fulwood Blade]

It's ridiculous for anyone to turn down an opportunity for that. I seriously don't get the whole 'we're not ready for promotion' bollocks.

Indeed - Don't understand it too.

For me it can be described like this:

For 1 year in the Prem, you are GIVEN £100m - plus parachute payments for what is, in effect, FREE Money, and as as you stated later - it's how it is spent.

Staying in the Championship, means the directors/benefactors using or generating any extra income for purchases and wages.

I believe it was the new Leeds chairman, when he took over last year said "no one makes money from the Championship if you are realistic about promotion"

In defence of the people who didn't advocate going up this season - your thoughts are probably - "we don't have sufficient players capable of Prem standard" - I agree with this, but to all you people out there........how much is it going to COST someone, in the next 2 to 3 years to actually get ready?

Well, you don't really have an answer - just look at S6 and LS11. Premiership money is free money and it's how it is used. Burnley have done it, but credit here goes to Sean Dyche - CW is cut from the same cloth.

UTB

 

[Sean Thornton]

The Prince says he has backers but for some reason won't reveal to McCabe who they are hence McCabe not playing ball.

Is that a legal veto that McCabe has? It sounds a bit odd to me.

 

[Esablade]

I keep hearing 'blades way' mentioned esa, when I first read it I thought it was a new bypass around Bramall Lane, still not sure.

it was a 'marketing campaign' a few years back wasn't it?
..in true Sheffield style I believe it's been somewhat 're-appropriated' since then...

 

[SwissBlade]

He wants United to go out and give every game a real go. Standout line by far was boardroom stuff

I guess from a journalistic click bait perspective then it will be the most interesting part...

However, from all the football points that he discussed and as manager of the football club, they'd sit right above a boardroom soundbite statement of "it needs sorting quickly". What was he going to say "it can drag on for the next year or two for me".

 

[Esablade]

*The Blades Way.

"Further evidence of the club’s imaginative approach came with the creation of an international network of overseas clubs that, according to McCabe, would “be commercially profitable as well as nurturing the best academies in those countries.” The joint development of young players was known as the “Blades Way”, featuring feeder clubs in China (Chengdu Blades), Hungary (the famous Ferencvaros) and Australia (Central Coast Mariners), as well as partnerships with clubs in Belgium, Brazil, India, the Ivory Coast and the Caribbean. However, it is highly debatable whether this substantial focus on overseas expansion has produced the desired results."

All makes sense now!

https://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/sheffield-united-blades-rediscovering.html

 

[The Crab]

I keep hearing 'blades way' mentioned esa, when I first read it I thought it was a new bypass around Bramall Lane, still not sure.

It's a secret road around the S2 area that mirrors our season. At the beginning, the tarmac was smooth and a pleasure to drive on. Then some twat from Burton put a fucking great pothole in it, then the road after that has been bumpy and fucked, and now we don't know who's going to own it next year.

 

[Lane Ender]

No joy at all, Cerberus Blade . More a realisation that we're nowhere near ready for the PL.

We are always ready for the PL missed a great opportunity to go up.
Boardroom bollocks meant CW shopped at Lidl instead of Waitrose the season peters out into nothing.

 

[super_pig]

if we’d have got a promotion spot then we’re ready .. that is what the system is for..

 

[stringer]

I guess from a journalistic click bait perspective then it will be the most interesting part...

Certainly above ‘football manager wants team to win games of football’ anyway

 

[Sean Thornton]

We are always ready for the PL missed a great opportunity to go up.
Boardroom bollocks meant CW shopped at Lidl instead of Waitrose the season peters out into nothing.

To be fair, he wouldn't find many good footballers at Waitrose either.

 

[ghandi]

Is that a legal veto that McCabe has? It sounds a bit odd to me.

No don't think so just a consequence of the owners falling out.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

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[Lane Ender]

To be fair, he wouldn't find many good footballers at Waitrose either.

Hilarious

 

[Chali 2na]

We are always ready for the PL missed a great opportunity to go up.
Boardroom bollocks meant CW shopped at Lidl instead of Waitrose the season peters out into nothing.

In what way were we "ready" and were we more ready than Wolves, Villa, Fulham, Cardiff & Derby, Middlesbrough, Brentford and Derby?