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Rodley said:
Can’t drink, can’t swear, no atmosphere, grounds with an average age older than my local bowls club. It’s going south.
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And clubs and authorities alike are happy for it to go that way. They're blind to the importance of what we're losing. More fans don't give a shit. And the ones who do can't be arsed to do anything about it.
 
Rodley said:
What amazes me is that grounds like Palace now have a decent atmosphere. PALACE?! And people have given up at The Lane?! :(
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Depends what you mean by decent. Whenever they are on tv the monotonous chants from their so called ultras is annoying. Fortunately the opposition often score which shuts them up for a bit.
 
Deano said:
Depends what you mean by decent. Whenever they are on tv the monotonous chants from their so called ultras is annoying. Fortunately the opposition often score which shuts them up for a bit.
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That Palace singing section is orchestrated Americanised Cheer led garbage, often has no correlation to the action on the field.
 
zablade said:
That Palace singing section is orchestrated Americanised Cheer led garbage, often has no correlation to the action on the field.
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Why does it have to have correlation to the action on the field? The whole point of such a section is so that like minded people who want to try to generate some atmosphere can get into one area and do so, and if you want to sit for 90 minutes, sing the GCB and maybe United repeatedly if we get a corner, then do nothing, the rest of the ground is available?
 
Danny04 said:
No, I don’t. Just as I don’t agree with the ‘if you think the Lane atmosphere is shit, you must move your seat to BLUT, leave your mates/family/kids or whoever you go with to sit with a bunch of 20 blokes you’ve never met and sing with them, or you’re not entitled to an opinion’ school of thought. Is that any less bizarre?
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Yes, it's absolutely far less bizarre than your nonsensical analogy.


HodgysBrokenThumb said:
Plenty of interesting comments. I agree that louder support would be a good thing, but there are no simple solutions, and the one thing that is clear is that you cannot artificially create atmosphere, you can only create the conditions for it to be possible to have a noisy atmosphere. I felt the loud music before the home derby match actually took away the atmosphere - the 2 sets of supporters would have generated a much better atmosphere at the beginning if they had been able to feed off each other.
Some thoughts (several echoing what others have said):
1. Those who want to make a noise need to be able to be together. Either safe standing or unnumbered seating on part of the Kop would be practical measures that would help generate noise. It would also need good behaviour for it to last.
2. The connection between players and crowd has been watered down, everywhere. The population is more mobile, the players move on - is our longest-serving player now Brooks? People who move to the city go and watch United, but most do not have the deep emotional attachment. The same is true of the players -the idea of a player staying 10 years is unheard of (almost).
3. There is a greater sense of entitlement. There is hardly a set of fans in the country happy with their lot now. The cup competitions have lost ground, so if you do not win the Premier League or gain promotion, a season is a failure.
4. People have got used to half watching football on TV. They look up when there is a corner or a shot, but are generally not very interested in the rest of the game. And it may bring success if you pass the ball around on the half-way line, but it won't get a crowd excited.
5. Football crowds are no longer just working-class men in flat caps. Men behave differently in front of women, kids behave differently sitting next to their parents, and their parents and grandparents behave differently. Things have changed, largely for the better.
I don't think Bramall Lane is worse than other grounds in this respect.
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I agree with all of your reasoning behind the shit atmosphere but considering other grounds I've visited in the league, I think the Lane has become one of the quietest. And despite all of the above, teams such as Palace and Huddersfield have shown you can still get around it with a bit of organisation and passion. Whether that's through a supporter-led initiative, a club-led initiative or something altogether more revolutionary like the introduction of safe standing, I don't know.

Personally I think attending football in this country has become very very boring unless you're an away fan. I like to have a good atmosphere in a stadium because it makes the whole thing more entertaining; it can turn good games into great memories and shit games into decent ones!
 
There's a report on the BBC sport website that the 3 Norwich MPs are supporting a campaign to have safe standing introduced at Carrow Road. Worth Ricky and others having a look with a view to pushing for something similar at the Lane? A grassroots + clubs + public figures campaign would have a chance of success, but would require a long-term effort.
 
HodgysBrokenThumb said:
There's a report on the BBC sport website that the 3 Norwich MPs are supporting a campaign to have safe standing introduced at Carrow Road. Worth Ricky and others having a look with a view to pushing for something similar at the Lane? A grassroots + clubs + public figures campaign would have a chance of success, but would require a long-term effort.
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I am sceptical about these "safe standing" schemes. From what I've seen, they look over sanitised and ultra "safe", I suspect they won't make much difference to things like atmosphere.
 
Hamburg Blade said:
I am sceptical about these "safe standing" schemes. From what I've seen, they look over sanitised and ultra "safe", I suspect they won't make much difference to things like atmosphere.
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What things are like atmosphere? :)
 



Tom Bott said:
You might have but I didn't, I've been looking for it all week.

Could you pop it in an envelope and post it to me please.
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What’s your point mate, that the atmosphere hasn’t deteriorated at BDTBL? Or facetious banter is due a revival?
 
HodgysBrokenThumb said:
There's a report on the BBC sport website that the 3 Norwich MPs are supporting a campaign to have safe standing introduced at Carrow Road. Worth Ricky and others having a look with a view to pushing for something similar at the Lane? A grassroots + clubs + public figures campaign would have a chance of success, but would require a long-term effort.
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I suspect we'd need a miracle for it to be introduced in this city. The council and police would be absolutely terrified of the prospect "because Hillsborough". We'd need everybody else to introduce it before we did.

I would like these standing areas but do think they seem over sanitised and don't think they'll be a complete solution. They won't suddenly transform the collective 'can't be arsed' mentality among English fans.
It would be great to have the back half of the Kop terraced for example but there are still issues with it - would everyone have to go to a specific seat? Are those in the seated area never allowed to stand?

There's no reason they can't designate standing areas in all seater stadiums as they currently are. Far cheaper and more flexible.
 
Hamburg Blade said:
A lot of people think they can influence the match by wearing a different pair of socks or going for a shit at the right time.
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We only have to look at the shoutbox to know that this is 100% fact, infact at one point I thought they’d change the name to shitbox and it had nothing to do with what was spoken in the shoutbox. :rolleyes::)
 
wizadry said:
We only have to look at the shoutbox to know that this is 100% fact, infact at one point I thought they’d change the name to shitbox and it had nothing to do with what was spoken in the shoutbox. :rolleyes::)
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Is it a fact that they wear specific clothes, or that they influence the match? We should be told.
 
Deano said:
Depends what you mean by decent. Whenever they are on tv the monotonous chants from their so called ultras is annoying. Fortunately the opposition often score which shuts them up for a bit.
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It’s far and away better than the Lane Library where the best fans in the land observe their vows of silence.
 
shrubbery said:
What a load of wank.

You don’t have to spend the game chanting in order to support the team. Paying your hard earned to come and watch the Blades is what being a supporter is all about, not how much noise you choose to make whilst you are there. Some people like to sit and enjoy the game without making a peep and who can judge them for this? Some people chose to spend the game chanting away regardless of what is happening on the pitch - who are you to judge them?

The fact that we were so toothless today had fuck all to do with how much noise came from the stands.
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Ah, good old “I pay my money so I’ll do as I please.” That’s your prerogative but don’t claim to be a supporter. Others who also pay their ‘hard-earned’ don’t do so in order to listen to 90 minutes of negative ignorant drivel from moaning, self-entitled tossers who would rather do anything than get behind the team they claim to support.

Non-Blade Wankers, the best fans in the land,
 
FFS go to Old Trafford, The Emirates ,Etihad, Swillsborough and 95% of grounds and their all quieter than the Lane. Don't know why you so called Blade slaggers don't go and S T F Up. Or go join NKT Forums.
 
People at the club know about the BLUT plan so we'll see if they're bothered about improving our support when ST details are released. They should be opening at least one block up there but being an English football club with an English fanbase, I'm not expecting anything. We'll carry on as we are thank you very much. It's only attendances that matter. And those bothered about our poor support will continue to do fuck all about it.
 



Ricky said:
People at the club know about the BLUT plan so we'll see if they're bothered about improving our support when ST details are released. They should be opening at least one block up there but being an English football club with an English fanbase, I'm not expecting anything. We'll carry on as we are thank you very much. It's only attendances that matter. And those bothered about our poor support will continue to do fuck all about it.
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So now it's the club's fault as well as the fans that people aren't behaving how you want them to.
 
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