I'd rather not go up this season

[DifferentClass]

I fear we'll do a Derby from a few years back and go straight down with a record low points total. We're not prepared at the moment.

We have to remember that only two seasons ago the highest Wilder had managed was the fourth tier. To be so high in the Championship in your first season (and after injuries and other fuckery that kept key players out) is therefore nothing short of miraculous.

Bassett had top flight experience prior to BDTBL and he knew what was expected at this level. It took Warnock nearly 20 years to reach the Prem from Scarborough's promotion to the old Division Four. Wilder's still getting to grips, and I can see us making a real effort next season if he gets the backing he desires and deserves.

 

[Dutch Blade]

Even if we go down with a record low points total, we get so much money that it's totally worth it. We have a decent side with a good manager but you can't rely on a manager. You need structural better players and (youth) facilities. At the moment, we just don't have the money for that. Going up would be the best thing that could happen to us.

 

[1973Blade]

Go up and we get on the Parachute Payment gravy train even if we go down. Look at the example of Burnley. Went down, spent wisely and now an established Premier League team.

 

[robbiez666]

Go up, spend little but sensibly for the future, go down with pockets full of parachute payment.

 

[8lade]

I'd rather we did.
Both Wolves and Fulham don't play that well every week and neither do most prem sides.

 

[Beans]

Just about every team that goes up fears “doing a Derby”. I honestly think we’d have got more than 11 points THIS season - do you really think we’d have failed to win three games and a couple of draws? I’m confident there’s five+ Prem teams who are significantly worse than Wolves / Fulham.

Plus as others have said I can gladly take the embarrassment for 100m...

 

[Rodley]

Sure Burnley said the same when they went up first time.

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

I fear we'll do a Derby from a few years back and go straight down with a record low points total. We're not prepared at the moment.

We have to remember that only two seasons ago the highest Wilder had managed was the fourth tier. To be so high in the Championship in your first season (and after injuries and other fuckery that kept key players out) is therefore nothing short of miraculous.

Bassett had top flight experience prior to BDTBL and he knew what was expected at this level. It took Warnock nearly 20 years to reach the Prem from Scarborough's promotion to the old Division Four. Wilder's still getting to grips, and I can see us making a real effort next season if he gets the backing he desires and deserves.

I’m sure you are music to our board’s ears.

 

[The Vicar]

Not an issue really - we are not good enough - & the longer this season goes on the more obvious it is.

 

[bromtom]

If we went up though we would be ready by next season. Loans would be secured based on a percentage of the lowest guaranteed premiership payment so that we could spend it in advance, and Wilder would be shrewd and get some decent players in but just of a higher quality. Pick from the relegated teams, and promotion chasers etc.

It's not like we'd go up and still be paying £50K for strikers.

We'd also get a lot more loan opportunities for players who want to play in the Premier League at all costs.

 

[Stretch]

This is a great league and one in which we can beat many of the teams with our current set up, I quite like that.

Getting promoted would probably see us struggle for results whilst also altering our wage structure for players who I would probably end up resenting when they don't play well. The PL's riches are enticing, but they do sort of come at a cost, if you know what I mean.

Don't get me wrong, I still want us to have a go but I won't be crying if we don't make it. We have already had a hugely enjoyable season and I would fancy us again next time around.

 

[Harry's Game]

Go up take the cash like Burnley and build properly with it when you come back down.

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

Go up take the cash like Burnley and build properly with it when you come back down.

What, like the last time we were there?

 

[Fanny magnet]

I fear we'll do a Derby from a few years back and go straight down with a record low points total. We're not prepared at the moment.

We have to remember that only two seasons ago the highest Wilder had managed was the fourth tier. To be so high in the Championship in your first season (and after injuries and other fuckery that kept key players out) is therefore nothing short of miraculous.

Bassett had top flight experience prior to BDTBL and he knew what was expected at this level. It took Warnock nearly 20 years to reach the Prem from Scarborough's promotion to the old Division Four. Wilder's still getting to grips, and I can see us making a real effort next season if he gets the backing he desires and deserves.

You don't have to worry about us going up

 

[Roygbiv]

Luckily for you we won't go up! It's hard not to be disappointed after the great start but we are a mid table Championship club. It's nothing to sneer at after years of utter shite and it's probably the best we can hope for until real investment. We are now pretty much where Ipswich have been since fucking Jim Magilton was in charge of them. I hope we can progress quicker

 

[BigBed]

We ain't going up, anybody that thought we would was dreaming, we need a couple of years in this league to mount a charge, mind you, we've got half a chance if the Wendy are to be believed, that they'll win the league this year!!

 

[JohnDenver]

In this day and age, the notion of going up too early is nonsense. The money could change your club for years to come, even if you can't stay up at the first effort.

 

[TomHeffernan]

I don’t agree at all. We’re a good side and far from mid table. Win our game in hand and we’re back in the mix. No way are we a mid table side. Look at some of the dross in mid table who we’ve played off the park. We’re also not a top two side either. I really fancy us to get to the play offs still and once in anything can happen.

I hope Fulham go up automatically so we wouldn’t have to face them though.

 

[SUFC Guy]

Agree that going up for the Wonga alone would benefit us and rebuild from there. Of course staying up would be nice as well.

Can you imagine how good it would be to see us play the same way and style with passion and high pressing pressure but.... with far better players in the squad? Faster and more skilful players playing the Wilder and Knill way

Now that would be tasty

 

[Cerberus Blade]

I fear we'll do a Derby from a few years back and go straight down with a record low points total. We're not prepared at the moment.

We have to remember that only two seasons ago the highest Wilder had managed was the fourth tier. To be so high in the Championship in your first season (and after injuries and other fuckery that kept key players out) is therefore nothing short of miraculous.

Bassett had top flight experience prior to BDTBL and he knew what was expected at this level. It took Warnock nearly 20 years to reach the Prem from Scarborough's promotion to the old Division Four. Wilder's still getting to grips, and I can see us making a real effort next season if he gets the backing he desires and deserves.

This is a stupid comment - sorry but it is.

You (and I) have no idea what situation we’ll be in next season. What makes you think for one moment we’ll be better off than we are now? This is the best opportunity we’ve had of getting back to the Prem since 2005! The opportunity is still there via the play offs admittedly.

We must never think “next season” will be a better opportunity than the present.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

If we get the chance to go up this season, take it with both hands. That has been our problem over many years, very rarely seizing the moment went it arrives.

Take a spot in the Prem, take their money, don't waste any of it on foreign prima-donnas that will bleed us dry and care f*** all for the club, spend some of it on solid British players and most of it in turning the Lane into a first class stadium, best and biggest in Yorkshire.

 

[Swannyblade]

I remember Palace getting promoted after a late charge into the play-offs under Holloway. They had a terrible squad and a bad start to their first season back in the Prem, but they switched managers, weathered the storm and survived. Since then, they’ve held their own and become a Premier League regular.
Same thing happened with Stoke, Bournemouth and Watford...if you can survive that first season, you’ve got a great chance of establishing yourself in the top league.
There always seems to be one team that self implodes in the Prem as well these days, often due to poor mismanagement from clueless owners, financial suicide or trigger happy firing and hiring of managers.

 

[Jon Bon II]

I fear we'll do a Derby from a few years back and go straight down with a record low points total. We're not prepared at the moment.

We have to remember that only two seasons ago the highest Wilder had managed was the fourth tier. To be so high in the Championship in your first season (and after injuries and other fuckery that kept key players out) is therefore nothing short of miraculous.

Bassett had top flight experience prior to BDTBL and he knew what was expected at this level. It took Warnock nearly 20 years to reach the Prem from Scarborough's promotion to the old Division Four. Wilder's still getting to grips, and I can see us making a real effort next season if he gets the backing he desires and deserves.

Kev? Is that you Kevin...?

 

[JayGreen17]

I fear we'll do a Derby from a few years back and go straight down with a record low points total. We're not prepared at the moment.

We have to remember that only two seasons ago the highest Wilder had managed was the fourth tier. To be so high in the Championship in your first season (and after injuries and other fuckery that kept key players out) is therefore nothing short of miraculous.

Bassett had top flight experience prior to BDTBL and he knew what was expected at this level. It took Warnock nearly 20 years to reach the Prem from Scarborough's promotion to the old Division Four. Wilder's still getting to grips, and I can see us making a real effort next season if he gets the backing he desires and deserves.

Well he won't get the backing so we need to take every opportunity we get, it's not as if they come around that often does it, we were in L1 for 6 years. Your argument is floored it's like saying Wilder wasn't ready this year because he hadn't managed at champ level we'll look at us now. Take every chance we can get, never heard such a ridiculous argument, what's the point in supporting a team. If you don't want the.m to play and be the best, it's the sort of attitude that saw us in league 1 for all those years and why we've been bang average for over 20 years with one of the best supported clubs in the land. Wilder is a winner and IF backed will take this club up whenever the opportunity arises Tut...

 

[Pedro's Winger]

You don't get to choose when you go up - if there's a chance you try and take it with both hands.
If things don't go well next season there will definitely be regrets we didn't really grasp the opportunity this season.

 

[Davalon]

Whilst there remains an opportunity we keep fighting. Only tonight and Wolves away have we looked a level below all season.

Truth be told I doubt we'll finish close to 6th ultimately but giving up isn't acceptable imo. I thought some got embarrassingly carried away earlier in the season frankly with their predictions, but I started to believe top 6 was a real possibility.

I don't now but mid table isnt to be sniffed at if that's what comes. Personally I'm more interested in us achieving our potential than just finishing above the Pigs.

Next season will be a true test.

 

[Houston_Blade]

I fear we'll do a Derby from a few years back and go straight down with a record low points total. We're not prepared at the moment.

We have to remember that only two seasons ago the highest Wilder had managed was the fourth tier. To be so high in the Championship in your first season (and after injuries and other fuckery that kept key players out) is therefore nothing short of miraculous.

Bassett had top flight experience prior to BDTBL and he knew what was expected at this level. It took Warnock nearly 20 years to reach the Prem from Scarborough's promotion to the old Division Four. Wilder's still getting to grips, and I can see us making a real effort next season if he gets the backing he desires and deserves.

Don’t worry, we won’t.

 

[bromtom]

Where are we? Right now we're ninth, with a game in hand, win it and we're level on points with Boro in 6th with Boro to play in April.

Where are we in terms of where we should hope to be, mid table is harsh I think, not that it's anything to be sniffed at.

Three teams are definitely better than us, Wolves, Fulham and Cardiff (though we have the chance to answer Cardiff), Villa are probably about equal with us but have an overdrive button and can get you with that bit extra.

After that you'd have to say we're in the next few teams, so 5th to 9th. Not nailed on for playoffs but within a point or two.

It's hard not to think of all the chances we've had to take points and didn't though through either not being clinical enough, decisions from the manager, or from the ref.

A point at Boro, a point at Forest if Fleck hadn't made that terrible pass, a point or a win at QPR if CCV had shifted, sickeners from PNE and Villa taking points away, especially Villa with us not taking our chances. Should've scored against Wendy at home. Should've played for the draw against Bristol at home, not shitting the bed against Hull away etc

Small margins. Could have had another 10 points from that lot.

We've had a great season though, still in it and we've got to go for it.

What's important is finishing well. We need to win the last few games even if we don't get to the playoffs, to have something positive to follow.

 

[SwissBlade]

I fear we'll do a Derby from a few years back and go straight down with a record low points total. We're not prepared at the moment.

We have to remember that only two seasons ago the highest Wilder had managed was the fourth tier. To be so high in the Championship in your first season (and after injuries and other fuckery that kept key players out) is therefore nothing short of miraculous.

Bassett had top flight experience prior to BDTBL and he knew what was expected at this level. It took Warnock nearly 20 years to reach the Prem from Scarborough's promotion to the old Division Four. Wilder's still getting to grips, and I can see us making a real effort next season if he gets the backing he desires and deserves.

I'd also rather not go up. And i especially don't care for extending the season with a disappointment in the the play offs.

However, I do realise that for financial reasons, a season in the Prem would not do us any harm.

As for worrying that we'd finish with a lower tally than Derby if we did get up, it doesn't concern me in the slightest, one season in the Prem would be fine, then back down

However, i think we've run out of steam so building form with the fixtures we have left will be tough.

 

[Houston_Blade]

I'd also rather not go up. And i especially don't care for extending the season with a disappointment in the the play offs.

However, I do realise that for financial reasons, a season in the Prem would not do us any harm.

As for worrying that we'd finish with a lower tally than Derby if we did get up, it doesn't concern me in the slightest, one season in the Prem would be fine, then back down

However, i think we've run out of steam so building form with the fixtures we have left will be tough.

For me it’s about having a half decent end to the season so we have a bit of momentum going into next as you say.

It’s been a successful season so far and we’ll pick up between 10 and 20 points between now and the end of the season so it may or may not be enough.

I personally think we’ve not performed well enough against the better sides in the league to be confident going into the play offs, we seems like a team who doesn’t believe we can win against some of the top 6.

I just want the rest of the season to point out to whoever ends up putting up the cash for players in pre season, that we need a few more of higher quality. Back Wilder and we’ll do well, piss him off and we won’t.