Blackman or Moore?

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Number 1?

  • Blackman

    Votes: 160 73.1%

  • Moore

    Votes: 59 26.9%
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It's the international break, I'm allowed.

For the life of me, I can't understand why Jamal has got some of the stick he's got over this past 5 months. Apart from that one mistake against QPR, in which he got injured as he landed meaning he lost grip of the ball, he has been faultless and had conceded 3 goals at home in the league. Imperious record for a young lad who's been playing in League 2 for the past year.

I must admit at the time I thought... This is risky. Good competition, but he's only just been playing in League 2, nowhere near good enough to be our number 1. I was very very wrong.

But for some reason people wanted Moore to replace him even before that... some saying he should've done better with Hooper's goal for Wednesday was the point I realised our fans know absolutely fuck all or feel some sort of connection with Moore.

Moore came back on saturday... was beaten by a long range punt at goal. Jamal I highly doubt would've been beaten, he really should have saved it.
He also dropped a ball in the box which had it not been for our defenders quick reactions might have been a goal, and hesitated when Jake Wright was trying to usher him out to collect the ball in the second half and their player nearly nipped in because he stayed rooted to his line. Had Jamal done this - he would've been battered. And I don't like double standards at all, it's not reyt.

I'm not doing this to pit one against the other (even though that's exactly what I'm doing!) I just think we need to get it out in the open WHY some are so against Blackman, when for me the lad is our best keeper. Big, quick, good in the air and great in one on ones. That save against Brentford is still my favourite of the past few years.

So if you could guarantee an injury free run, who would be your number 1 for the rest of the season?
 



Blackman has more than earned his spot for me, it's up to Moore to earn it back. Fairly nice problem to have though, when you consider some of the keepers we've had in recent years.

Although I think if Jamal is injured for a wee while, Moore will come into his own again, and I don't think there would be any more long range punts going in in the same fashion as against Hull.
 
dannysufc_ said:
But for some reason people wanted Moore to replace him even before that... some saying he should've done better with Hooper's goal for Wednesday was the point I realised our fans know absolutely fuck all or feel some sort of connection with Moore.
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Moore might not have done better with Hooper's goal but if he was in goal I highly doubt that goal would've happened, and we would've been 2-0 up at half time. It came about because of an absolutely stupid kick by Blackman. He gave the ball straight back to Wednesday and within 30 seconds it was in the back of our net. It was a minute until half time with all our bodies on the right side of the pitch. In that situation you don't take any risks at all, yet he kicked it way over to the left for Jack Hunt to collect. He's lucky it didn't cost us the win.

As for who should be number 1, I'm not sure. Blackman's not done enough to be dropped, but he did make that error at QPR. But then Moore came in and let in a soft goal v Hull. I'm assuming Moore stays in for the Burton game but after that it's very difficult to know what to do. Unless Moore had a shocker.
 
Blackmoore?

In all seriousness I don't think anyone should lose their place in the starting XI due to injury.

However, I'm conscious that's how Moore lost his place...

Oh, i don't know. I'll let Tufty decide. Maybe they could have a 'save off' on a Friday afternoon with the winner getting the nod? Or an arm wrestle?
 
To be honest I'm comfortable with either of them in net. I think it's fair to point out that Saturday was Moore's first game back from injury so there is bound to be a little rustiness, combined with the fact he probably felt added pressure to perform because he knows he isn't the clear number 1 any more.

For me, if Blackman is fit for the Burton game then he deserves to continue between the sticks until his form drops, at that point it is up to Moore to pick his performances up and claim back the shirt. But if Blackman isn't 100% then I'm happy for Moore to continue, if this happens and Moore pulls off a few top saves......well that will just be another headache for our fearless leader to deal with!
 
I think Blackman could play in the prem. If we did get promoted I don' think there is any chance Moore would be our starting keeper (or anyone elses). I like Blackman more now and think he's going to get better. Moore was a huge upgrade on what we had. JB is another step up
 
Ricky said:
Moore might not have done better with Hooper's goal but if he was in goal I highly doubt that goal would've happened, and we would've been 2-0 up at half time. It came about because of an absolutely stupid kick by Blackman. He gave the ball straight back to Wednesday and within 30 seconds it was in the back of our net. It was a minute until half time with all our bodies on the right side of the pitch. In that situation you don't take any risks at all, yet he kicked it way over to the left for Jack Hunt to collect. He's lucky it didn't cost us the win.

As for who should be number 1, I'm not sure. Blackman's not done enough to be dropped, but he did make that error at QPR. But then Moore came in and let in a soft goal v Hull. I'm assuming Moore stays in for the Burton game but after that it's very difficult to know what to do. Unless Moore had a shocker.
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But there's no way Moore saves that 1 on 1 v Brentford and that's us not starting with a win. It's swings and roundabouts.

Blackman is a better keeper. Better kicker? Who cares, I don't want a keeper who can kick well or we'd just have Jonny Wilkinson in net.
 
dannysufc_ said:
I don’t know what there is to be scared about, his kicking is his only weakness and that has improved greatly over the past few months
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And don't forget the 'hoof' from Moore led directly to Leon's fourth! (although Leon brought the ball down magnificently! :eek:)
 
Blackman, for me has been excellent. For such a young lad he's impressed me and grown in every game. Shame to lose him to injury, but Moore is a fantastic back up.

That said, i wouldn't drop Moore for Blackman now, Moore has the shirt and its his to lose.
 
Way the lads are playing at the moment, we could probably play them both.....
 



People tend to underestimate Moore's contribution last season. He was the first decent keeper since Kenny and the confidence he instilled in the team was a major contributory factor in allowing the team to play as they did.

Blackman has done little wrong, so this is not an anti-Blackman post, but I think the way forward is to stick with the GK who is guaranteed to be with us in the future and us not being reliant on a loanee. We got Blackman in as back-up, nothing else.

If we managed to sign Blackman in the JTW then it would be a different matter.
 
Moore has the shirt until Blackman can win the shirt back, Moore does look a little rusty but not playing in proper competitive matches will do that.

Blackman as been great and I am sure Moore will be is normal reliable self in the next few matches, I am overly sure Chris Wilder and Alan Knill will get it right and make the correct call.
 
snootyfenooty said:
People tend to underestimate Moore's contribution last season. He was the first decent keeper since Kenny and the confidence he instilled in the team was a major contributory factor in allowing the team to play as they did.

Blackman has done little wrong, so this is not an anti-Blackman post, but I think the way forward is to stick with the GK who is guaranteed to be with us in the future and us not being reliant on a loanee. We got Blackman in as back-up, nothing else.

If we managed to sign Blackman in the JTW then it would be a different matter.
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Id rather play the better keeper, regardless whether he'll be ours next season or not.
Plus - no way Chelsea send a promising young keeper out to sit on the bench. There'll be assurances he isn't coming just as back up, and I'm happy for that.
 
dannysufc_ said:
Id rather play the better keeper, regardless whether he'll be ours next season or not.
Plus - no way Chelsea send a promising young keeper out to sit on the bench. There'll be assurances he isn't coming just as back up, and I'm happy for that.
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The best way to get a GK up to speed is to play him regularly, not sit him on the bench. Moore was probably a little rusty last week as elgoog44 has pointed out, so if we give Blackman the slot and he leaves at the end of the season (or possibly earlier) we will have done a great job in readying him for Chelsea whilst at the same time leaving us with our regular GK who is not match ready. That's not very clear thinking on our part.

As for the back-up thing, he's played 15 league games already and there may be more to come. Chelsea will be well happy with that, There was never any intention for him to replace Moore for the season when he came here, there's no way Wilder would have sanctioned that.
 
I've seen a lot argue against Blackman with him being a loan player and that "a blade should always be played over a loanee" - if that's the case what's the point in even bringing loan players in?

Blackman over Moore every time for me I'm afraid. As some have pointed out his kicking is sub-par but he's obviously identified that as a weakness and worked on it. That's the kind of player we want. if we managed to sign him off of Chelsea somehow I would be over the moon but I can't see that happening!
 
Blackman all day.

Back in at Burton for me. You can't pick a team on sentiment and Blackman is better.

His kicking is a weak point but has improved massively, and his catching, calmness and skill with the ball at his feet is great.

He has an issue with low shots, can't get down as quick as a shorter keeper would, but I firmly believe we'd have let more in without him.

Every one makes mistakes, if you can class that freak goal as a mistake, Fleck's gift to Forest, Brooks out of position contributing to Wednesday's second, but if you look at where we are in the table and how few we've let in, that's Blackman.

There's only one, maybe two teams in the league who've let in less I believe.
 
Blackman should start in my opinion. He's been consistent and is an imposing figure to have at the back. In the 15 games he's played he's been at fault for a single goal...which came from an unlucky collision resulting in him going off injured. I don't think this warrants him losing his place!

As for him being a loan player - Lets not forget that 100 yard run to celebrate the goal against Derby in front of the Kop, he might be on loan but he wants to be here and is committed to the cause. Should we get promoted there's every chance in signing him, Chelsea don't need to rely on youngsters coming through their ranks (if they wanted a new No.1 goalkeeper they'd buy one of the best in the world), and Blackman wouldn't want to miss out on regular Premier League football...but let's cross that bridge if we get to it, for now just play the best goalkeeper, at the moment that's Blackman.
 
I like them both. But I think I prefer Blackman . I like his calm personality between the sticks. Moore seems more anxious to me. And more likely to make a mistake.
 
How many times has anyone seen Moore playing at this level? Not many I'd guess. So the comparison is between what people have seen of Moore at L1 level v what they've seen of Blackman at championship level. Which is why I'll leave it to Wilder to decide.
 
I'm not against Blackman at all, I like him. But 15 games where he has faced fewer shots on target than any other keeper in the league doesn't trump the 40 odd games I'v seen Moore look good in. Blackman might well be better but I need to see him make some saves before I come to that conclusion.
 
Working Class Hero said:
I'm not against Blackman at all, I like him. But 15 games where he has faced fewer shots on target than any other keeper in the league doesn't trump the 40 odd games I'v seen Moore look good in. Blackman might well be better but I need to see him make some saves before I come to that conclusion.
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Make some saves? Is that a joke?
 
I think they’re is little to choose between them, Blackman seems better than Moore when the ball is in the air and is very commanding in and around the six yard box. Moore is better atkicking and gets down quicker to low shots. I also think Moore communicates with the back four better than Blackman, as evidenced at QPR.
But as others have said, there is very little to choose between them, which is a great situation for the club to be in.
UTB
 



Moore always seams nervy to me rooted to his line poor handling especially in the air.
Blackman has done no wrong (that was a bit freaky at QPR) improving every game always willing to come for high balls
showed that at Bolton he could end up world class.
Lets not forget our Jake he is the real deal.
 
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