tifos (fan displays)

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It's interesting that the Italian word tifoso literally means "one suffering with typhus".
 



Blade for Sale said:
Continental football seems to be much more of an intertwined political and social machine than here. As a result you have myriad supporters groups ranging from right wing hooligans, fanatical (but not necessarily violent) ultras, the Spanish 'peñas' etc, many of which have close ties with clubs and varying levels of influence. There are political leanings, business ties, often open conflicts between groups of fans of the same club.
The various machinations often give rise to a much more cohesive supporter community, and certainly result in financial and social support from the clubs (sometimes as a form of barely disguised blackmail/extortion). Coupled with the much less self-conscious continental attitude to expression on the terraces, it's no surprise that these mosaics/tifos are less prevalent here than elsewhere.
This is why I'd like to see the eventual kop development go hand in hand with some deep and wide ranging initiatives to integrate atmosphere generating ideas. A snarling, smoking, loud and colourful kop with 15k chanting fans on it could be worth an extra 10 points a season.
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It'll take another generation before we see that sadly.
Derek and George prefer to be left in peace to reminisce about their crazy nights in the Fiesta club.
 
I should coco said:
Chuffin hell, my computer's been hacked and I've been directed to the Guardian forum.

Myriad?
Cohesive?
Machinations?
Initiatives?
'Expression on the terraces'?

In the words of that rarely sung 60's gem:

"Sing something simple, you simple TWATS"
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"We are Cutlers, we are Cutlers, exquisite Cutlers, hailing from the Lane"
"May I enquire as to the identity of the Gentleman of dubious parentage dressed in black?"
"You are to be transported to your place of abode in a fornicating hospital wagon"
 
Grecian2000 said:
Just as a matter of interest, has anyone, anywhere, ever been intimidated by a banner?
We need a fucking sight more than "care in the community" if they have.

"I'm not going to Leicester dad, that banner scares the crap out of me".
"OK son, perhaps we'll do something else for your 21st then".
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:D:D:D

I take yer point. I suppose 'intimidating' shouldn't be taken literally. The displays are supposed to build up an atmosphere which opposition players wouldn't necessarily enjoy playing in. They're probably not exactly shaking in their boots, though.
 
Blade for Sale said:
"We are Cutlers, we are Cutlers, exquisite Cutlers, hailing from the Lane"
"May I enquire as to the identity of the Gentleman of dubious parentage dressed in black?"
"You are to be transported to your place of abode in a fornicating hospital wagon"
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I'm sure I've heard those last two at Fulham and Bournemouth.
 
Allow me to be the first to say; it's cringey and in glad we don't do it.

People laud the "contentintal football experience" as if it's superior and I'm not sure why? Other than in Turkey, every live, continental game I've seen has been devoid of the humour, tradition and ferocity of our domestic leagues.

In my opinion, this belongs in the same category as cheer-leaders and air horns.
 
Chali 2na said:
Allow me to be the first to say; it's cringey and in glad we don't do it.

People laud the "contentintal football experience" as if it's superior and I'm not sure why? Other than in Turkey, every live, continental game I've seen has been devoid of the humour, tradition and ferocity of our domestic leagues.

In my opinion, this belongs in the same category as cheer-leaders and air horns.
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Well said that man.

Hot dogs in the car park?
Jannette Jackson at half time?
Pizza and endless coke refills delivered to your seat so you don't miss the 'big game' experience.
 
TomJonesBlade said:
No, but I think the point of these things is that they are designed, made and paid for by the fans.

The poppy thing was a nice touch and a display of respect. The odds of the club taking it upon themselves to manufacture an enormous, intimidating banner as a big 'fuck off' to Sheffield Wednesday are slim to none.
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Maybe the club would like to do that as a thank you to them for locking our fans out of the sty ;)
 
Tyler Durden said:
It'll take another generation before we see that sadly.
Derek and George prefer to be left in peace to reminisce about their crazy nights in the Fiesta club.
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Or Derek and George remember all too well the politicising (a takeover by the NF etc.) of football supporters in the 70's. They may even have fought against that sort of shit.
Then again Derek and George might not take kindly to people telling them how they should support their club either.

I really don't give a shit what people do (be it politics, religion, sport) UNTIL they want to tell me how I should think/act. Then they can fuck right off.
 



him behind you said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/f55f4039-0921-4420-93b1-58314614c935

Just been looking at this on the BBC website and got to say I love some of them. If, as rumour is suggesting, our home game against the swine is switched to a friday night, could we welcome them with a display like those Bayern, Legia or Dortmund? Not that we'll need it but it could really get us rocking and would look amazing under lights at BDTBL. Just a thought during a dull work lunchtime.
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It’s fair to say that things like this are pushing me closer to ending my football supporting days. I really go to football to watch the game, sing and shout a bit, meet with my mates and eat/ drink before or after the game and have a hip flask at half time.

If this thing crept into the game at United I’d probably not bother going to the game anymore.
 
Grecian2000 said:
Or Derek and George remember all too well the politicising (a takeover by the NF etc.) of football supporters in the 70's. They may even have fought against that sort of shit.
Then again Derek and George might not take kindly to people telling them how they should support their club either.

I really don't give a shit what people do (be it politics, religion, sport) UNTIL they want to tell me how I should think/act. Then they can fuck right off.
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Good job nobody has then isn't it Del?

Not sure where you got than conclusion from really.
 
Woodthorpe blade said:
What about some kind of, FUCK OFF WEDNESDAY mural. Maybe with Alan Woodward holding the severed heads of Hirst and Waddle?
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Think we need to re-think the Hirsty bit, just in case his lads considering a move, don't want to rule ourselves out just yet.
Carlton Palmer would be a good substitute and a fucking sight uglier to boot.

Also swap TC in for Woody and let's make it an actual photo rather than a mural. Job done, can I have first go with the scimitar?
 
Grecian2000 said:
Think we need to re-think the Hirsty bit, just in case his lads considering a move, don't want to rule ourselves out just yet.
Carlton Palmer would be a good substitute and a fucking sight uglier to boot.

Also swap TC in for Woody and let's make it an actual photo rather than a mural. Job done, can I have first go with the scimitar?
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But nobody would be able to see Carlton Palmers head it's that small, You would have to be stood very close:D
 
Tyler Durden said:
Good job nobody has then isn't it Del?

Not sure where you got than conclusion from really.
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I never actually said they had. However, 2 of the first 6 posts on this thread are suggesting those that don't want this tifos shit are either "Luddites" or "not committed enough". What is that if not a criticism of people who don't share a certain viewpoint?
 
Grecian2000 said:
I never actually said they had. However, 2 of the first 6 posts on this thread are suggesting those that don't want this tifos shit are either "Luddites" or "not committed enough". What is that if not a criticism of people who don't share a certain viewpoint?
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Well what it is, is a criticism of those who have a pop at anyone who would want to try something a bit different.
 
Grecian2000 said:
I never actually said they had. However, 2 of the first 6 posts on this thread are suggesting those that don't want this tifos shit are either "Luddites" or "not committed enough". What is that if not a criticism of people who don't share a certain viewpoint?
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My post didn't suggest that. If it simply isn't your thing then commitment doesn't really come into it. I'm suggesting that those who might be interested still aren't committed and organised enough to replicate what fans in other countries produce.
 
I really liked the Ajax "Against Modern Football" banners. Few years back now, and IIRC the club got fined by Fifa - heaven forfend any supporters criticise anything about the beautiful game, obviously.
 
SwissBlade said:
It’s fair to say that things like this are pushing me closer to ending my football supporting days. I really go to football to watch the game, sing and shout a bit, meet with my mates and eat/ drink before or after the game and have a hip flask at half time.

If this thing crept into the game at United I’d probably not bother going to the game anymore.
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I know what you mean Swiss and I'd hate to see it regularly......but just once to give it a big FUCK YOU WEDNESDAY would be brilliant IMO ;)
 
i went to a Sturm Graz vs Rapid Vienna game and they had a big silver sheet kind of like foil with stuff on it.. covered all of one end..later pictures looked very impressive
problem was Sturm scored in the 2nd minute and everyone on the NordKurve missed the fucking goal!
 



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