Loan Updates

[8lade]

I can't see how Long wouldn't be considered an option on his return, he's getting regular MOTM performances in a team poor in their league, he's going to be one of the busiest men on the pitch. Of course I don't see Wimbledon's games so maybe he let's in soft shots. His confidence was shot at United when it wasn't about 'togetherness' more about blame somebody else.
Whiteman, hopefully just going through a bad patch as prior to this point he's only received great reviews, hopefully he can rally.
I think the others have all had their chances.

 

[McGrath]

Glad Long is doing well. I'm guessing not playing in front the Kop helps.

As for Reed and Whiteman. They are still young, they're going to have their ups and their downs.

 

[Woodwardfan]

The week before he was sacked Caldwell commended Reed's application, example and leadership skills.

Both Reed and Whiteman look to play a forward incisive ball as they have the ability to deliver one. That needs a striker to make the runs and understanding between the players. Whiteman is at a better club for that and previous reports have been very favourable and Whiteman was prominent at The Emirates game recently. Reed is in a dogfight situation and will learn a lot about himself and the game.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Never really understood the hype with Reed. Every time I've seen him he's not been very good. He doesn't particularly excel at anything. Can't tackle so not a Defensive Mid, can't shoot so not an Attacking Mid, can't take a man on. Too slow, too lightweight.

Unfortunately he will never play higher than the Conference

 

[Pinchy]

Always a little reticent to take a few forum comments as gospel (no disrespect Roy love your work) but not great regards Reed at any time during these updates.

Not easy being in a team in their position but if he's not pulling many trees up at the bottom of League 2 then you have to wonder where his future lies.

You don’t. You really don’t. He’s right there, right now as I predicted a very long time ago.

The Whiteman fervour is fading too. Cancel that £20k a week contract and first on the team sheet in January, eh?

The Wishing Star has turned out to be a black hole.

 

[Pinchy]

The week before he was sacked Caldwell commended Reed's application, example and leadership skills.

Both Reed and Whiteman look to play a forward incisive ball as they have the ability to deliver one. That needs a striker to make the runs and understanding between the players. Whiteman is at a better club for that and previous reports have been very favourable and Whiteman was prominent at The Emirates game recently. Reed is in a dogfight situation and will learn a lot about himself and the game.

Reed is nowhere near good enough. I told this years ago. The evidence gets more and more irrefutable as you cling onto the Little Louis lifeboat for dear life. Your obdurate refusal to acknowledge that which is blindingly obvious is becoming an embarrassment.

The Whiteman star is fading too. Can you not see it from the distant planet upon which you exist?

 

[Pinchy]

Reed has flattered to deceive on some occasions I've seen him, can't finish and not particularly aggressive in the tackle so makes you question what kind of midfielder he will be.

A mediocre one at best. No-one who chose to benefit from my wisdom would ever have to question it...

 

[Woodwardfan]

Reed is nowhere near good enough. I told this years ago. The evidence gets more and more irrefutable as you cling onto the Little Louis lifeboat for dear life. Your obdurate refusal to acknowledge that which is blindingly obvious is becoming an embarrassment.

The Whiteman star is fading too. Can you not see it from the distant planet upon which you exist?

What do you know about 'embarrassment' Pinchy?!!!

If only we were time travellers and know how it will all turn out.

Lowton made his league debut just before he was 21 years old, look at him now.

What did I say in that post that was so daft anyway?

 

[Pinchy]

Pleased to hear Long is doing well.

He came in to our side at a very young age and started well, things with the club overall turned sour and his performances dipped; along with others, however he became one of the fall guys given his position.

He was and is crap. He lacks all the essential qualities. He struggles to catch a ball cleanly. He fails, at 6ft 4, to have any presence whatsoever. He routinely spills simple saves, usually into the path of an attacker for a tap-in. His communication skills match those of the current Prime Minister. His positioning and judgement are lamentable.

The Bladey Boybanders are in denial, I’m afraid.

 

[Pinchy]

What do you know about 'embarrassment' Pinchy?!!!

If only we were time travellers and know how it will all turn out.

Lowton made his league debut just before he was 21 years old, look at him now.

I have never said that Lowton would fail. He is a complete irrelevance; nothing to the point at all.

We’re talking about Little Louis, at the bottom of League Two and descending rapidly to where he belongs. The only question is how low can he go.

You keep turning a blind eye to the excruciatingly obvious, wish and wish hard on the burned out Wishing Star and all will be well on Planet Woody.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, Sheffield United continue to do very well indeed, with or without your imaginary “Pathway for Youth”. Take off the Bladey Boyband Blinkers, Woody and enjoy the wider vista.

 

[ALG91]

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Are you pointing out the fact he has only scored 1? or that i said he'll not play higher than the Conference?

Obviously he has played higher than the Conference, i just mean that i doubt he'll spend the majority of his career above the Conference.

 

[coolhandluke]

Deals to get Reed Wilson Long and Hussey away from our Club in January please .

Whitemans loan extended at Donny would be good aswell . Last chance saloon for Whiteman , if he's not close to our squad by the summer then he needs to go too .

I'd like to see 3 or 4 more out on loan in January too .

We need to be clear about a pathway for our Academy players . If the aren't pushing for inclusion in the matchday squad by the age of 21 at the latest then we need to move them on . We're a championship club now and sentiment cannot be allowed to cloud our judgement and decision making .

 

[S64 Blade]

He was and is crap. He lacks all the essential qualities. He struggles to catch a ball cleanly. He fails, at 6ft 4, to have any presence whatsoever. He routinely spills simple saves, usually into the path of an attacker for a tap-in. His communication skills match those of the current Prime Minister. His positioning and judgement are lamentable.

The Bladey Boybanders are in denial, I’m afraid.

Did you read the quotes from the Wimbledon fans?

I'm not suggesting he will come back and play for us again, merely that it is nice to see him doing well with Wimbledon.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

My cousin must be being kind to me, he says he's a terrier with skills.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Not at all surprised that Hussey has become pivital for them. He is excellant at dead balls and delivers a decent cross too from open play. At that level he won't be exposed defensively.

Chuffed for Long, and who knows, maybe he still has a future at United. After all, Blackman will no doubt go back to Chelsea at the end of this season and maybe Long will be back in the running next pre season.

Can't see Reed staying much longer, he needs to go permanently and play football. Not too interested in Wilson because as with Hussey, he'll be gone at the end of the season whatever, as they're both out of contract. Wilson should be solid for that level, in fairness.

Hussey just has a problem with live balls, that's all.

I'm pleased to hear Long is doing well, I don't want to see him back here though. Time for the lad to move on.

Agree the other 3, Reed, Wilson and Hussey, will all be gone in Jan.

 

[I should coco]

No-one who chose to benefit from my wisdom would ever have to question it..

And today's competition is:

Re-arrange the above random selection of words to make a comprehensible sentence as understood by the man on the Clapham Omnibus.

You may add some or all of the following additional bonus words:

Hoof
Dinosaur Dave
Traffic cone
Straw man

Good luck and it certainly won't be easy!

 

[Pinchy]

A lot of our fans have a weird attitude of 'Don't give him a run to find out if he's good enough.. until he's good enough' which I find bizarre really. I'd like to see Whiteman back here and see how he copes in our midfield.I don't reckon he'd look out of place. He's been playing centre half recently I think.

Yes it’s bizarre to think we shouldn’t lose points, games and possibly league status in the quest to see if young players can ‘cope’. Why wouldn’t you leave out proven players who are progressing our team very nicely in order to give young Jimmy, John and Diego a try? Wierd attitude, some have.

If only there was a structure whereby they could get game time (fucking “game time” - the latest nonsense phrase from Junior Computer Manager?) at, I don’t know, just off the top of my head, say under-18 and under-23 levels, so the manager could evaluate whether the young tyros might be able to cope with a bit of game time.

A pipe-dream, I know.

 

[Pinchy]

Givdessoarun!

 

[Pinchy]

Did you read the quotes from the Wimbledon fans?

I'm not suggesting he will come back and play for us again, merely that it is nice to see him doing well with Wimbledon.

I did. I prefer the evidence of my own eyes. I’ve seen him ‘play’. I too, am delighted to hear he’s doing well at Wimbledon. Long may he stay there.

 

[Pinchy]

Deals to get Reed Wilson Long and Hussey away from our Club in January please .

Whitemans loan extended at Donny would be good aswell . Last chance saloon for Whiteman , if he's not close to our squad by the summer then he needs to go too .

I'd like to see 3 or 4 more out on loan in January too .

We need to be clear about a pathway for our Academy players . If the aren't pushing for inclusion in the matchday squad by the age of 21 at the latest then we need to move them on . We're a championship club now and sentiment cannot be allowed to cloud our judgement and decision making .

What the Bladey Boyband Brigade can’t or won’t grasp is that ‘youth’ who are good enough create their own pathway. It’s called “Excellence Way”. It’s a far better road than rocky old “Givemarun Avenue”.

 

[mancunianblade]

I still think Whiteman could be good enough. I'd pull him and Reed back in the JTW, it's not that helpful for them being in a relegation fight. Get them loaned out to clubs that can actually win games.

I'd say Hussey, Long and Wilson have probably found their level and look to sell all three in the JTW. Won't be huge amounts but I think there are L1 clubs that would pay for them, going on the reports. Or maybe try to part ex one of them for a L1 player we want to sign, like Leonard.

I don't think we can sell them. Season long loans and all have contracts that expire at the end of the season.

 

[BushBlade]

I don't think we can sell them. Season long loans and all have contracts that expire at the end of the season.

I think we have options to recall in the JTW, most season long loans do.

 

[mosbolad]

I see our resident blatherskite has awoken.

 

[UnitedBlade]

I don't think we can sell them. Season long loans and all have contracts that expire at the end of the season.

There was an article in the Star that they were offering a new contract to Whiteman before he went to Doncaster. Not sure if this happened but he could come back. I don’t think the others will come back and will be released at the end of the season.

I think Whiteman’s loan is 6 months as well. So he’ll either come back or they’ll extend. He can’t play for a third club in one season.

 

[Berlin Blade]

Yes it’s bizarre to think we shouldn’t lose points, games and possibly league status in the quest to see if young players can ‘cope’. Why wouldn’t you leave out proven players who are progressing our team very nicely in order to give young Jimmy, John and Diego a try? Wierd attitude, some have.

If only there was a structure whereby they could get game time (fucking “game time” - the latest nonsense phrase from Junior Computer Manager?) at, I don’t know, just off the top of my head, say under-18 and under-23 levels, so the manager could evaluate whether the young tyros might be able to cope with a bit of game time.

A pipe-dream, I know.

Imagine if no players had ever been given a run. Imagine if De Bruyne had been given a run at Chelsea. I wonder if Man Utd regret not giving Pogba a run. He wasn't good enough was he. Like I say, Brooks could have easily dropped off the face of the earth if he'd gone to Chesterfield in League 2. Your logic is flawed. It's not a one way thing where we're a charity case like you make out, offering out first team appearances to kids like they're going out of fashion. It's a risk/reward thing. We offer the young players a chance, if they're not good enough, they're out. If they are good enough we then have an asset on our hands which benefits the club. I bet you're gutted that Brooks got his chance and that we've now got a proper talent at the club which we can either use to scare the shit out of defenders OR sell for 15 million and use that money to bolster the squad. You can't have one without the other. I know your argument is going to be 'Brooks was always going to make it, look how good he is' But he wouldn't have been given the chance if you were in charge.

 

[Pinchy]

Imagine if no players had ever been given a run. Imagine if De Bruyne had been given a run at Chelsea. I wonder if Man Utd regret not giving Pogba a run. He wasn't good enough was he. Like I say, Brooks could have easily dropped off the face of the earth if he'd gone to Chesterfield in League 2. Your logic is flawed. It's not a one way thing where we're a charity case like you make out, offering out first team appearances to kids like they're going out of fashion. It's a risk/reward thing. We offer the young players a chance, if they're not good enough, they're out. If they are good enough we then have an asset on our hands which benefits the club. I bet you're gutted that Brooks got his chance and that we've now got a proper talent at the club which we can either use to scare the shit out of defenders OR sell for 15 million and use that money to bolster the squad. You can't have one without the other. I know your argument is going to be 'Brooks was always going to make it, look how good he is' But he wouldn't have been given the chance if you were in charge.

How many games and points should we be prepared to lose for the sake of givinemallarun? Is there a discernible level of ability or achievement that triggers gerrinarun or is it a universal right? Is there a limit on owmanirunsyerget or owowdyeravterbe? What do the excellent players left out to accommodate those ooaragerrinarun do?

Under 15s Sunday League thinking in professional football? It’ll end in tears when young Jonny doesn’t gerristurn after ispayedissubsanismamsweshtkit.

 

[Pinchy]

I see our resident blatherskite has awoken.

Indeed. Did you have a nice sleep?

 

[Snowman]

Yes it’s bizarre to think we shouldn’t lose points, games and possibly league status in the quest to see if young players can ‘cope’. Why wouldn’t you leave out proven players who are progressing our team very nicely in order to give young Jimmy, John and Diego a try? Wierd attitude, some have.

If only there was a structure whereby they could get game time (fucking “game time” - the latest nonsense phrase from Junior Computer Manager?) at, I don’t know, just off the top of my head, say under-18 and under-23 levels, so the manager could evaluate whether the young tyros might be able to cope with a bit of game time.

A pipe-dream, I know.

Weird or Wierd? Just can't decide. Otherwise you flawed maestro, pretty spot on.

 

[Woodwardfan]

How many games and points should we be prepared to lose for the sake of givinemallarun? Is there a discernible level of ability or achievement that triggers gerrinarun or is it a universal right? Is there a limit on owmanirunsyerget or owowdyeravterbe? What do the excellent players left out to accommodate those ooaragerrinarun do?

Under 15s Sunday League thinking in professional football? It’ll end in tears when young Jonny doesn’t gerristurn after ispayedissubsanismamsweshtkit.

"Excellence Way". "Excellent players left out....."

Who is in Lalaland now?

Tell you what Pinchy. You never admitted when was the last time you saw Reed play. We have trusted posters on here who watch our young lads every game, let's ask them to appraise Reed's abilities and development as a lad just turned 20 who has all those first team games under his belt at 18 and 19 years old and has played at U-23, yes 23 years range for years and has also represented England at three age levels.

What do they think of him? You haven't watched him these past 2 years old boy, have you?

Balls=Up, Larkymasher and Baw please give us your views on the young lad. I never see Pinchy taking any interest whatsoever in your threads. Wish I knew how to tag you.

 

[mosbolad]

Imagine if no players had ever been given a run. Imagine if De Bruyne had been given a run at Chelsea. I wonder if Man Utd regret not giving Pogba a run. He wasn't good enough was he. Like I say, Brooks could have easily dropped off the face of the earth if he'd gone to Chesterfield in League 2. Your logic is flawed. It's not a one way thing where we're a charity case like you make out, offering out first team appearances to kids like they're going out of fashion. It's a risk/reward thing. We offer the young players a chance, if they're not good enough, they're out. If they are good enough we then have an asset on our hands which benefits the club. I bet you're gutted that Brooks got his chance and that we've now got a proper talent at the club which we can either use to scare the shit out of defenders OR sell for 15 million and use that money to bolster the squad. You can't have one without the other. I know your argument is going to be 'Brooks was always going to make it, look how good he is' But he wouldn't have been given the chance if you were in charge.

Indeed he wouldn't Brown Tonge. His logic is only play players at the very top of their game but it doesn't work like that. The examples you have given are excellent. You could add Harry Maguire to that list. There were plenty of early games he cost goals but he matured and became a defensive rock.

If Pinchy were in charge? Well we wouldn't have Wilder for starters and Adkins would still be at the helm.

"Only in S2 would the fans even contemplate getting rid of a manager of NA's proven record of both achievement and performance after less than a season.

It might be for silly Bladey Blades. The rest of the football community would look at his CV and beg to differ.

Nonentity. Fucking Bladey Bladey Nonentity. Read and learn.

He wouldn't get a mention if he had no United connections. He's a complete nonentity."

Read and learn eh.......