Kevin Mcdonald

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To be fair, he didn't have anything like the quality and movement around him that we have now, and he really was the only source of creativity in our team. When he didn't play, or had a bad game we were generally dire. I think he'd be very useful in our squad.

Having said that, I wouldn't do a swap for Coutts or Fleck in a million years.
 
Superbladesman7 said:
Anyone watching Qpr vs Fulham and thinking, I'd much rather have Fleck/Coutts.

No question I rated him highly when he was here, but doesn't influence a game nearly as much as our flying scotsmen!
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Always said that - flatters to deceive. Waste of ability really. Assists low, goals hardly ever, though he's been better since he left us.

The direct comparison is Coutts as Fleck produces more up the field. Trouble at the time was we played him woith a holding midfield player, Doyle who was really good for where we were at the time but not in partnership with McD.
 
Supporters who watched mainly home games loved him. Living in London my 'home' games are away games and he wasn't as impressive in those. Talented but lazy and nesh. He looked perfectly suited for the no.10 role, Weir's one good decision, and then we sold him.

I'd take Coutts over him any day.
 
BushBlade said:
Supporters who watched mainly home games loved him. Living in London my 'home' games are away games and he wasn't as impressive in those. Talented but lazy and nesh. He looked perfectly suited for the no.10 role, Weir's one good decision, and then we sold him.

I'd take Coutts over him any day.
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The No.10 role demanded he took responsibility but we hardly saw him play it. Lazy man, lazy player, waste of ability.
 
Woodwardfan said:
Always said that - flatters to deceive. Waste of ability really. Assists low, goals hardly ever, though he's been better since he left us.

The direct comparison is Coutts as Fleck produces more up the field. Trouble at the time was we played him woith a holding midfield player, Doyle who was really good for where we were at the time but not in partnership with McD.
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The Doyle/McDonald partnership was pretty effective when flanked by Williamson and Quinn, for L1. But comparing them to Fleck and Coutts would be like saying Sheridan and Wilson were better than Scholes and Keane. Which I imagine has been said before.
 



ShefRedandWhite said:
Good but lazy.
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Good but never took responsibility to make enough things happen.

I would accuse Coutts o.f this if I viewed him in isolation but his role is to keep feeding, feeding he ball to players who can take the ball upfield in control and into better places. The quid pro quo is whether to get the ball there quicker, something Coutts rarely does, nor did McDonald - it's all pretty safe stuff really. Not that it's wrong if that's what the manager wants, it's just that in itself it doesn't actually win games it slowly builds the springboards
 
BushBlade said:
Fewer defensive duties though and he didn't like that side of the game.
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Lazy. Coutts was also lazy for 2 years and is now acting captain and fully charged.

The big key here is the manager. He does not tolerate lazy players, take it or leave it Kevin, Paul.

Paul took it and that benefits him, the manager, his team mates,me and you.
 
Woodwardfan said:
Lazy. Coutts was lazy for 2 years and is now acting captain and fully charged.
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Yes, I know he's lazy, I said that in my first post; lazy and nesh. I did think the same about Coutts although I thought it was down to his injuries, that he just wasn't able to work so hard, that he'd never get back to the player he was before he was injured. I was wrong. Credit to Prestridge for getting his body right and credit to Wilder for getting his head right.
 
BushBlade said:
Yes, I know he's lazy, I said that in my first post; lazy and nesh. I did think the same about Coutts although I thought it was down to his injuries, that he just wasn't able to work so hard, that he'd never get back to the player he was before he was injured. I was wrong. Credit to Prestridge for getting his body right and credit to Wilder for getting his head right.
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Yes, but that is being kind, who cares now though.

I remember Coutts never moving an inch and pretending not to be able to hear Adkins giving him instructions.

Watch him run over to listen to Wilder now.
 
BushBlade said:
Sheridan and Wilson were better than Scholes and Keane. Which I imagine has been said before.
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It is a fact.

Check it out on NKT.

It started out as an opinion but it has been repeated often enough that they all now believe it.

Keane worked hard but didn't have Wilson's energy and although Scholes had a good pass he never really matched Sheridan's football brain.
Actually it was the best side in the world, ever.
Walker ("You'll never beat" *) was better than Moore, Beckenbauer and Baresi all rolled into one.
Hirst could down a pint faster than any other footballer.
Phil King was the best ginger full back since er...
John Harkes was better than Pele
Warhurst was so good at the back that they had to put him up front
Palmer was the best midfielder ever. His single England cap was a travesty and he should have beaten Bobby Moore's 106 caps. If only Turnip Taylor had built a side around him, England would have won the 1994 WC.


* The world's best defender scored a cracker for the Blades in the 2003 Forest play off. This is not widely acknowledged on NKT.
 
Woodwardfan said:
Yes, but that is being kind, who cares now though.

I remember Coutts never moving an inch and pretending not to be able to hear Adkins giving him instructions.

Watch him run over to listen to Wilder now.
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It's 'little' things like that, no 'big' things like that when you know something good is going on. Wilder/Knill/Mitchell sign good players ( past mangers didnt), Motivate them ( others didnt), organise them (others didnt) play a system to squad strengths (others didnt), relax them (others didnt), invite them to express themselves (others didnt), make other than like-for-like substitutions (others didnt), show real passion about them and the club ( others didnt), recruit the home crowd and the away crowd ( others didnt).
 
Woodwardfan said:
I remember Coutts never moving an inch and pretending not to be able to hear Adkins giving him instructions.
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I don't think that the "pretending not to hear Adkins" is a bad thing.

"Paul. Remember the geese. Put some endeavour in and do what we said about the geese.
Paul....
Paul, are you listening?"
 
Superbladesman7 said:
Anyone watching Qpr vs Fulham and thinking, I'd much rather have Fleck/Coutts.

No question I rated him highly when he was here, but doesn't influence a game nearly as much as our flying scotsmen!
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He never did influence anything, a vastly overrated money grabbing cunt as you're ever likely to see ........................... and that soft as shit wanker of a pig Wilson let him get away with it :mad::mad::mad:
 



bornablade said:
This needs merging with the thread 'United players you just didn't like'
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why??
because a lad who has no affiliation to our club moved on to a club who at the time had better prospects and offered him more money?
he was our best player, and decided the best thing for himself to do was move on.. Didn't go on strike, didn't slag us off, just took an improved contract.
anyone out there who wouldn't do the same?
I'm Sheffield born and bred, work for Stafford county council. If Manchester council offered me double ya money to do the same job id be off as quick as a hookers knickers
 
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