Coutts FA probe

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LoughboroBlade said:
It was an incredibly stupid thing to do given it would have had the dual effect of jeopardising our chances to equalise on Saturday in addition to seeing him miss Sunday. Doubly stupid given the added responsibility expected of you when you have the armband.
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My thoughts exactly. All he had to do was get through the Norwich game without any reprisals.

So Carruthers or Lundstram?
 
LS16Blade said:
At the same time, however, another Norwich player was already feigning injury on the John Street side of the pitch, and the referee was looking in that direction. Strangely, when the Norwich player involved with Coutts realised that nobody was taking any notice of him, he made a miraculous recovery and jumped up straight away. He was a cheat, basically.
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Yep, exactly the case. I didn't see the incident but the ref didn't allow the trainer for either of the twats lying around uninjured. In fact the "victim" of Coutts was, as you say, up and about as soon as he realised his plot had come to nothing.
If the FA allow us to become the fall guys for their employee not being able to handle a game of football and the opposition destroying a game of football under their jurisdiction then something is very bent indeed with that organisation.
 
Serious question, Madine elbowed Jack O'Connell the other week, the ref spotted it and give him a yellow, now, the ref on saturday missed a "elbow" and it could be a 3 match ban and what makes a elbow a red/yellow card!?

All seems a big fucking joke.
 
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LS16Blade said:
The 'incident' occurred directly in the eye-line of where I sit in the South Stand.

Coutts had the ball and was moving back towards our half and the Norwich clogger that he had disposessed was pulling him back and then put his boot down Coutts' achilles. Coutts put his arm out as if to push him away; not unlike a 'hand-off' that you see in rugby. The Norwich player immediately hit the deck with his hands over his face (presumably in line with team instructions given how frequently it happened on Saturday).

At the same time, however, another Norwich player was already feigning injury on the John Street side of the pitch, and the referee was looking in that direction. Strangely, when the Norwich player involved with Coutts realised that nobody was taking any notice of him, he made a miraculous recovery and jumped up straight away. He was a cheat, basically.

Yet, surprise surprise, now we have an FA probe. Presumably, that is predicated on the usual basis that it was 'an incident that wasn't seen by the match officials' and as such, the FA are entitled to review it. Well, that, frankly is not true. The assistant referee on the South Stand side was directly in line with the incident. It happened 10 yards away from him. He cannot conceivably have not seen the coming together and the fact is that he plainly didn't feel that there was anything untoward at the time.

That said, football is bent, so the FA will make up whatever narrative they want and we can guarantee that Coutts will now be banned for at least 3 games.

It is infuriating that the farce that unfolded on Saturday is looking like derailing our season in the short term. Norwich's approach to the game might well have been at the root of the problems, but the real blame lies with the utterly inept referee, Scott Duncan, who completely failed to impose his authority over the game and, in particular, get a grip of the team that was there to spoil and antagonise from the moment that they arrived at the ground. Let's hope to God, we don't get that cretin officiating any of our games again.
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Same view as I had and exactly what I thought happened.
 
Dronfield Blade said:
Serious question, Madine elbowed Jack O'Connell the other week, the ref spotted it and give him a yellow, now, the ref on saturday missed a "elbow" and it could be a 3 match ban and what makes a elbow a red/yellow card!?

All seems a big fucking joke.
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The ref seeing it.
If he has decided it's yellow, it's his choice right or wrong.
 
LS16Blade said:
The 'incident' occurred directly in the eye-line of where I sit in the South Stand.

Coutts had the ball and was moving back towards our half and the Norwich clogger that he had disposessed was pulling him back and then put his boot down Coutts' achilles. Coutts put his arm out as if to push him away; not unlike a 'hand-off' that you see in rugby. The Norwich player immediately hit the deck with his hands over his face (presumably in line with team instructions given how frequently it happened on Saturday).

At the same time, however, another Norwich player was already feigning injury on the John Street side of the pitch, and the referee was looking in that direction. Strangely, when the Norwich player involved with Coutts realised that nobody was taking any notice of him, he made a miraculous recovery and jumped up straight away. He was a cheat, basically.

Yet, surprise surprise, now we have an FA probe. Presumably, that is predicated on the usual basis that it was 'an incident that wasn't seen by the match officials' and as such, the FA are entitled to review it. Well, that, frankly is not true. The assistant referee on the South Stand side was directly in line with the incident. It happened 10 yards away from him. He cannot conceivably have not seen the coming together and the fact is that he plainly didn't feel that there was anything untoward at the time.

That said, football is bent, so the FA will make up whatever narrative they want and we can guarantee that Coutts will now be banned for at least 3 games.

It is infuriating that the farce that unfolded on Saturday is looking like derailing our season in the short term. Norwich's approach to the game might well have been at the root of the problems, but the real blame lies with the utterly inept referee, Scott Duncan, who completely failed to impose his authority over the game and, in particular, get a grip of the team that was there to spoil and antagonise from the moment that they arrived at the ground. Let's hope to God, we don't get that cretin officiating any of our games again.
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That is how I saw it as well.

Knowing our luck Coutts will be sent to prison for assault.
 
SwissBlade said:
My thoughts exactly. All he had to do was get through the Norwich game without any reprisals.

So Carruthers or Lundstram?
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Sami did it for Coutts at P'boro last season, which I think was the only occasion. I wasn't over impressed that day with Sami as he is more effective in the no 10 role.

I suppose it depends on what formation we play - it was 3-4-2-1 v Norwich (as mentioned by CW in after match comments), so we may go that way again v the piggies if Sharp and Clarke aren't available. If so, then I would expect Lundstram at the side of Fleck.

UTB
 
I'm really really sorry. But this might all be my fault... whilst drunk after the Southend game last year I made a deal with the football gods that I'd do a 'dark side' picture of their choice if we got promoted. Which all but ended all bad luck.

I may have angered them by not doing so - as I'm pretty sure they'd choose Wembley and I just can't do it.

I wholeheartedly apologise.
Much loves.
Nick.
 
Bash hasn't played in CM for the best part of 2 years.
I know he's had the odd spell when we've changed formation during a game, but if we're honest he's a recognised CB now.
As flexible as he is, it isn't that easy to simply put yourself into a CM mindset, it's not like turning on or off a light.
I wouldn't want to risk it in a game of this importance.
 
Some of you need to calm down,calm down. My money says he'll play but, even if he doesn't it's merely a minor distraction which one of our own will resolve.

In any event , you must always remember that ...

" Some things in life are bad
They can really make you sad
Other things just make you swear and curse
When you're chewing on life's gristle
Don't grumble, give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best
And ....... "
 

Isaw Joeshaw said:
Some of you need to calm down,calm down. My money says he'll play but, even if he doesn't it's merely a minor distraction which one of our own will resolve.

In any event , you must always remember that ...

" Some things in life are bad
They can really make you sad
Other things just make you swear and curse
When you're chewing on life's gristle
Don't grumble, give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best
And ....... "
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Good choice. Old Wendy song......
 
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