McCabe has to go

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

Our resident bell end everyone......

How am I wrong ???? McCabe said in the summer we would spend in the summer and we haven't , I think McCabe has been a great stable chairman over the years.

But a change is needed in the next few years to get to the next level.
Please tell me where I'm wrong ?

 

[Pinchy]

How am I wrong ???? McCabe said in the summer we would spend in the summer and we haven't , I think McCabe has been a great stable chairman over the years.

But a change is needed in the next few years to get to the next level.
Please tell me where I'm wrong ?

We have spent in the Summer, that's an unassailable fact. We further had very substantial offers turned down. Coady, Lenihan, Egan, Leonard to name but four. No other club was prepared to offer more for those players. We lost three deals that we were only too keen to close, on Jim White Day alone. They too, would have cost money. What do you advocate. Spending money for the sake of it on players the manager doesn't really want simply because a section of fans are more interested in transfers than the game itself?

You've been told repeatedly and often by the manager now, and a video showing him working closely with Carl Schreiber confirms it, that he has no problems with his budget, likes and respects the owners and his policy is not to pay more than his valuation of any player. Witness his reaction when told the greedy bent fucker who represented Sinclair and Quina had doubled his fee. Not 'Come on Carl, let's pay it' or even a request to that effect. Simply an emphatic 'No, that's it then'

Now, that's the last time I'm indulging you. I think you are motivated by malice. You may even be a pig. I neither know nor care, but your repeated oafish pursuit of your silly agenda certainly justifies labelling you a Non-Blade.

One last thing:
How do you intend that this change you say is needed is brought about?

 

[Harrisblade]

How am I wrong ???? McCabe said in the summer we would spend in the summer and we haven't , I think McCabe has been a great stable chairman over the years.

But a change is needed in the next few years to get to the next level.
Please tell me where I'm wrong ?

What if we just get the "right sort of player" one or 2 at a time over the next few transfer windows, based on the present backroom staff's recommendations, and then reach the next level over the next few years that way?

 

[Pinchy]

Well I just did , has he not pumped millions in to Wendy.
Obvs the ticket prices etc are laughable he has put his money where his mouth is you can't deny that .

Obvs?

Might be a pig. Definitely could improve use of language. Certainly no Blade.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Pig or not he's no worse than the "Blades" that are ignoring the evidence before them and aren't worried about looking both pathetic and stupid in their attempts to twist what's clear for everone to see. Takes a special kind of "personality" to do that.?

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

We have spent in the Summer, that's an unassailable fact. We further had very substantial offers turned down. Coady, Lenihan, Egan, Leonard to name but four. No other club was prepared to offer more for those players. We lost three deals that we were only too keen to close, on Jim White Day alone. They too, would have cost money. What do you advocate. Spending money for the sake of it on players the manager doesn't really want simply because a section of fans are more interested in transfers than the game itself?

You've been told repeatedly and often by the manager now, and a video showing him working closely with Carl Schreiber confirms it, that he has no problems with his budget, likes and respects the owners and his policy is not to pay more than his valuation of any player. Witness his reaction when told the greedy bent fucker who represented Sinclair and Quina had doubled his fee. Not 'Come on Carl, let's pay it' or even a request to that effect. Simply an emphatic 'No, that's it then'

Now, that's the last time I'm indulging you. I think you are motivated by malice. You may even be a pig. I neither know nor care, but your repeated oafish pursuit of your silly agenda certainly justifies labelling you a Non-Blade.

One last thing:
How do you intend that this change you say is needed is brought about?

We clearly have spent money but not enough if you include the ads ons.
Yeah we were trying on the deadline day , bidding 200k and trying to loan a 17year old kid .
We're pissing in the wind compared to the majority of teams.
McCabe has our interest at heart and I'm sure he already is looking for the perfect investment as he's tried with the prince.
How am I motivated by malice it's a pretty reasonable statement suggesting we can't compete financially with the teams aiming for promotion.

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

Pig or not he's no worse than the "Blades" that are ignoring the evidence before them and aren't worried about looking both pathetic and stupid in their attempts to twist what's clear for everone to see. Takes a special kind of "personality" to do that.?

What evidence ? It's pretty clear we've spent way less than we have revived in add ons alone.

 

[Withington Blade]

Where did I say chansiri is better than McCabe , he's invested more money than McCabe and that's a pure fact

Nobody disputes that mate, the guy has a personal wealth that dwarfs McCabe's. We simply don't have that kind of money available. I can't understand why some folk would gamble the future of the club trying to compete with the likes of Birmingham and Wolves? Pure madness for me.

 

[Harrisblade]

We clearly have spent money but not enough if you include the ads ons.
Yeah we were trying on the deadline day , bidding 200k and trying to loan a 17year old kid .
We're pissing in the wind compared to the majority of teams.
McCabe has our interest at heart and I'm sure he already is looking for the perfect investment as he's tried with the prince.
How am I motivated by malice it's a pretty reasonable statement suggesting we can't compete financially with the teams aiming for promotion.

Doesn't the £2M bid for Egan count?

 

[Liverpool blade]

Nobody disputes that mate, the guy has a personal wealth that dwarfs McCabe's. We simply don't have that kind of money available. I can't understand why some folk would gamble the future of the club trying to compete with the likes of Birmingham and Wolves? Pure madness for me.

Agreed!!. I'm sorry to say but wisewood blade is an idiot who needs to put his snout back in the trough at S6!!.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

"There is"

Class

Their is ? What about CHAIRMANS ?

 

[Revolution]

Be honest Rev , do you have even a remote semblance of doubt that there ISN'T pork posting on this thread and others ? Seriously ?

It never occurred to me. The opinions advanced in this thread are opinions that a Blades fan might hold.

I find it regrettable that some people find it difficult to grasp that it is possible to support United and give them 100 percent backing at games whilst still being critical of the way the club is run.

I know people who have supported United for over 60 years, still go to every home and away game, and think McCabe has not invested enough in this transfer window and hold views like the OP. Are they Pigs?

Not everything is black and white.

 

[finlaytheblade]

It never occurred to me. The opinions advanced in this thread are opinions that a Blades fan might hold.

I find it regrettable that some people find it difficult to grasp that it is possible to support United and give them 100 percent backing at games whilst still being critical of the way the club is run.

I know people who have supported United for over 60 years, still go to every home and away game, and think McCabe has not invested enough in this transfer window and hold views like the OP. Are they Pigs?

Not everything is black and white.

Doesn't no one take Wilder view on all this about poor investment in the team.
He has stated more than once ! he does it his way and beleave he can build a team capable of another promotion without big money signings ( all that does is upset the other players who are on lower wages) moving the wage bill up as the team builds momentum is the way he beleave it should be done, Burnley & Huddersfield are two great examples.
We have a management team that will not throw silly money at fancy dans but solid good professional s who give value for money. Yep we have to up the anti but sensibly.Wilder has got backing and if he requested 10 million to sign one player he would get it as the club know we have a man who will take us all the way.
10 million is a joke as it would throw all his planning up in the air.
The pressure on these clubs who are spending big bucks is massive (as the pigs have fou d out ) yes it does work sometime s ,we will do it the Wilder way sensibly.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

What evidence ? It's pretty clear we've spent way less than we have revived in add ons alone.

Do yourself a favour and read the Bleacher Report, watch the vid, peruse the thread discussing it.

I don't mean to be condescending but it may well educate you in to how completely wide of the mark you are. Then also study Huddersfield and how they got promoted and maybe how Leicester managed to win the PL. There is no direct correlation between 'spunking money' and success.

Then you're back to school tomorrow so pack your school bag and have an early night.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

It is not beyond doubt that we did bid money for players so the money was available.

However these bids for one reason or another weren't accepted.

It is also not beyond doubt that Wilder has a strong view on a players worth and won't be budged.

If we continue to miss out on targets we want because of this we are going to have to review our strategy.

 

[Revolution]

Doesn't no one take Wilder view on all this about poor investment in the team.
He has stated more than once ! he does it his way and beleave he can build a team capable of another promotion without big money signings ( all that does is upset the other players who are on lower wages) moving the wage bill up as the team builds momentum is the way he beleave it should be done, Burnley & Huddersfield are two great examples.
We have a management team that will not throw silly money at fancy dans but solid good professional s who give value for money. Yep we have to up the anti but sensibly.Wilder has got backing and if he requested 10 million to sign one player he would get it as the club know we have a man who will take us all the way.
10 million is a joke as it would throw all his planning up in the air.
The pressure on these clubs who are spending big bucks is massive (as the pigs have fou d out ) yes it does work sometime s ,we will do it the Wilder way sensibly.

Many of these things are true, and I like the way Wilder is going about things, but I'm confident that he wouldn't say no to more money. More money equals a better chance of getting better players.

As I have said elsewhere, of the 8 signings we made pre deadline day, only 3 have started for the first team in league games, and one of those (Blackman) only did so due to injury. I am sure that Wilder would have liked to sign other "first team" players. One of the obstacles to that was resources more limited than the teams around us.

 

[Revolution]

Do yourself a favour and read the Bleacher Report, watch the vid, peruse the thread discussing it.

I don't mean to be condescending but it may well educate you in to how completely wide of the mark you are. Then also study Huddersfield and how they got promoted and maybe how Leicester managed to win the PL. There is no direct correlation between 'spunking money' and success.

Then you're back to school tomorrow so pack your school bag and have an early night.

I remain of the view that Huddersfield's promotion was a fluke and is not a model for anything.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

I remain of the view that Huddersfield's promotion was a fluke and is not a model for anything.

And Leicesters PL title? Greece winning the Euros in 2004?

Football is littered with different methodologies of success to those espoused by the narrative of the mainstream media. After all the histrionics around transfer fees underpins the media and suits their agenda. Remember the old 'you win nothing with kids' angle? The media got that one wrong too.

As Wilder and Utd appears to be carving out their own methodology, I'm of the view this should be applauded and supported not openly criticised by the pitch fork brigade.

In Tufty we Trust!

 

[Revolution]

And Leicesters PL title? Greece winning the Euros in 2004?

Football is littered with different methodologies of success to those espoused by the narrative of the mainstream media. After all the histrionics around transfer fees underpins the media and suits their agenda. Remember the old 'you win nothing with kids' angle? The media got that one wrong too.

As Wilder and Utd appears to be carving out their own methodology, I'm of the view this should be applauded and supported not openly criticised by the pitch fork brigade.

In Tufty we Trust!

Fwiw:

Greece - fluke
Leicester - no fluke

I agree re Wilder. He's doing something right this far for us.

 

[Trueblade]

I think we are at unprecedented time in the Chamoionship where clubs are starting to spend huge amounts of money.

Realistically you can't imagine this can be sustainable especially given the amount of clubs who have hit financial hardship in the past without spending what they seem to be this season. Personally I think we are best off out of it. At this moment it's fine. Let's see how we do, because in a few years time when these clubs start struggling as a result we may be the ones in the background laughing.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Many of these things are true, and I like the way Wilder is going about things, but I'm confident that he wouldn't say no to more money. More money equals a better chance of getting better players.

As I have said elsewhere, of the 8 signings we made pre deadline day, only 3 have started for the first team in league games, and one of those (Blackman) only did so due to injury. I am sure that Wilder would have liked to sign other "first team" players. One of the obstacles to that was resources more limited than the teams around us.

Not saying Wilder wouldn't want a bigger budget,but his methods revolve around a way of playing which players have to buy into building on what's acheavement.It's a gradual process and we have got this far quicker than expected.
The difficult bit is improving what we have and not throwing the baby out with the bath water. I don't think big money goes with Wilder methods developing players is how he does it ,but throwing in the odd experienced pro helps a lot ( experienced players he trusts ).
Paul Mitchell plays an important roll in this as he has the job of picking out the right talent.

 

[blade too long]

The one that makes me laugh is the line that McCabe and the fake Sheik are putting millions in every year just to keep us afloat. Are we a special sort of club? Don't the rest of the championship have exactly the same expenses? Not all have parachute payments or billionaire owners and a lot have to survive on crowds of sub 15,000 not the 25k + that we enjoy. A £5-6m windfall and we still can't afford to bring a bit of pace through the door.

no we are just like every club , hemarrogging money every year
swfc admit losing 5 m every year
why would we be any different when out tickets bring in less revenue as they are cheaper

https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/national/146216-championship-club-club

is a bit of the reality of running a club
so making 6m from 2 sales disappears into the money pit a football clubs running is
when some of our fans wake up to this might tone down the wheres the money gone stupitity
all the players wages under new contracts getting probably double what they were in league one
sharp coutts and others will have rightly asked for commensurate increases
whos paying for that

 

[Deddington]

David Brown, good Yorkshireman and wealthy industrialist, bought Aston Martin to pursue his hobby of motor racing. He ploughed his fortune into Aston Martin and a few years later won Le Mans. It was also his money that developed the iconic James Bond DB5 and his initials that make up the name. A wonderful success story except his obsession and the money he ploughed into Aston Martin almost bankrupted him and virtually destroyed his engineering empire. Over the next 30 years Aston Martin went bust several times, had a revolving door of owners, was asset stripped, hundreds (thousands including his other businesses) of people lost their jobs - for one moment of glory.

A journalist once asked David Brown

Question: How you make small fortune in the motor industry?
Answer: You start with big one!

I think if you asked the same question to owners of championship clubs nearly all would give the same answer.

There is a long list of owners pumping money into football clubs that then suffer financial and footballing meltdown. Kevin McCabe has consistently put a lot of money into SUFC and on the field we may have crashed but the club hasn't burned - he deserves credit. Beware of what we wish for - a new owner could bring millions and a few years later we could be bitter and twisted Coventry supporters.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Question: How you make small fortune in the motor industry?
Answer: You start with big one!

That sounds much better said with a comedy Chinese accent.

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

Do yourself a favour and read the Bleacher Report, watch the vid, peruse the thread discussing it.

I don't mean to be condescending but it may well educate you in to how completely wide of the mark you are. Then also study Huddersfield and how they got promoted and maybe how Leicester managed to win the PL. There is no direct correlation between 'spunking money' and success.

Then you're back to school tomorrow so pack your school bag and have an early night.

There is a very clear correlation between spending more money and success.

 

[BushBlade]

I've been away for a few days. I haven't missed much. Classic troll thread. If this isn't a wind up, my name's Barbara.

 

[ShorehamRevolution]

Hahahah ok mate so your happy with the board of your club showing 0 ambition , we should have spent money without the incoming sell ons. We have made 4/5 mill this transfer window.
Looks like McCabes happy to ride the wilder wave and show that he doesn't have to invest in the team.

And no I'm not asking for a boom or bust transfer spending just a few decent up and coming signs to show we're ambitious in the championship. WE HAVE SPENT NOTHING

I think you need to do a bit of research on how football clubs are run before you spout off on a forum. You've made yourself look silly.

 

[Sean Thornton]

There is a very clear correlation between spending more money and success.

For a handful of clubs yes. What about the ones who have spent millions and have had no success at all?

 

[sitwell]

Do yourself a favour and read the Bleacher Report, watch the vid, peruse the thread discussing it.

I don't mean to be condescending but it may well educate you in to how completely wide of the mark you are. Then also study Huddersfield and how they got promoted and maybe how Leicester managed to win the PL. There is no direct correlation between 'spunking money' and success.

Then you're back to school tomorrow so pack your school bag and have an early night.

Hes a fucking teacher ??

 

[itsinyerblood]

There is a very clear correlation between spending more money and success.

Don't you mean, "There appears to be a correlation between spending and apparent success...?"

Spending for the sake of spending, just because you can, probably won't achieve much. These days, selling a player for £90mil, and then finding that you can't attract a player of similar quality, well that puts that discussion to the sword I think.

Quite a few clubs, mostly in the Premiership, are spending £30-45mil as if money's going out of fashion. I can see that spending can bring quality that you may be missing, but whether it achieves success, well that's unproven. QPR have been consistently hefty spenders but it's guaranteed them nothing. Manchester City are the new money bags (at least in the UK), but I reckon they'll have to spend far more and for much longer if they want to bring the bacon home consistently. All they've done so far is spend, spend, spend.......if that's what you mean by spending equals success then I think the argument is a lost cause.

I think there's a certain type of supporter who gets a adrenalin buzz just because his team spend huge chunks of dosh. Whether it's spent well, wisely, or in any way, shape, or form, brings about the desired effect, well that's an unqualified loss leader.....because that's exactly what it is, it raises your profile, it speaks of intent, but as for what else it achieves, I'm really not sure.

Having said all the above, a point soon comes when those in charge need to make serious and realistic assessments about their capabilities and intentions. Of course money helps, and who doesn't like the thought of watching a player or three raise the quality thresh-hold of the club you support? I suppose what I'm saying is, spend if (A) you're bursting at the seams with money, or (B) you are capable of spending money within your budgetary constraints. It's not complicated really.













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