Ched's injury

[dazzlingblade]

He got off because of evidence that should never have been allowed and ruined a girl's life while cheating on his missus.

We can disagree on whether he should play for us, but I can't believe you use ratbag ironically. He's well below what we should expect from our players.

and your well below what i expect from a blade, i would suggest he was a fucking idiot for cheating on his girl, i would also suggest it was mr evans who had his life ruined for 4 years because of a (as found in a court of law) false allegation

 

[Pollingtonblade]

People do know Billy Sharp cheated on his Mrs once?

 

[Esablade]

Bit left field I know, but any news on his ankle?

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Bit left field I know, but any news on his ankle?

It was last seen attached to his leg. I'm not ITK though.

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

Ched's looked a bit like big Leon did last year. Clearly not fit. Leon looked a shade of the player he was at the end of the season until the injury had been sorted properly.

 

[Sheff de party]

and your well below what i expect from a blade, i would suggest he was a fucking idiot for cheating on his girl, i would also suggest it was mr evans who had his life ruined for 4 years because of a (as found in a court of law) false allegation

First of all there was no allegation for the girl, so I hope you mean by the CPS.

Second, I respect your right to an opinion, but I have no interest in meeting your expectations of a Blade.

 

[Sheff de party]

I'd pick you up on a couple of things:

1. If a footballer is a role model you might need to reevaluate your role models
2. He was 24yr old, out with mates, getting pissed, should he really have been sat at home with his missus, i had nights out with my mates when i was 24, especially when i had time off work.

Lots of bad decisions appear to have been made by both parties on that night of the alleged rape, should he have gone into the hotel room, no, did he know how 'smashed' the girl was? He was told by the girl "fuck me" of something along these lines. It was all very regrettable, rapist, i'm not sure about that.

Should we have signed him, debatable, however he's here now, i'll support him, did he deserve to have his life ruined by a crude judgement of error, probably not.

Yeah some really good points. In answer to the ones you raise, they're not my role models but they are for some young people. I know when I was a budding goalkeeper, I worshipped Alan Kelly. Fortunately my dad never ha to explain what rape was regarding him. I take your pointbthry shouldn't he role models, but I think they are.

Regarding his missus, I don't have a problem with him being out drinking. Id still support him if he cheated on his missus. But it's the circumstances in which he did it.

I won't judge anyone for supporting him, I just can't. I hope he's woefully bad in training and never gets a game basically.

 

[Sheff de party]

It seems Appeal Court Judges saw things differently. At a guess, I'd expect them to know more about "the system" than you, even if you are a lawyer. You wanting it to be irrelevant is, well, irrelevant.

Next time you disagree with a decision Wilder makes regarding team selection, or a pass one of our players makes, I'll remind you of that first point

 

[Sheff de party]

Why do you say that? The judicial system of the country thinks it was relevant and granted an appeal based on it. The subsequent retrial didn't throw the evidence out and it meant that a jury unanimously changed the original decision.

Why should it not have been allowed?





Just to keep things factual he was not proven innocent. He was found not guilty.

I don't think her previous sex life is relevant. It has no bearing on how drunk she was, nor whether she consented. Just my view, obviously one that was not shared by the relevant legal minds.

 

[Esablade]

It was last seen attached to his leg. I'm not ITK though.

How's his leg?

 

[Sheff de party]

What evidence should have never been allowed, and who should have been the arbiter of this, if not the criminal justice system ? Also, are you not aware that the woman in question has never accused him of rape to this day ? His girlfriend`s father was the prime mover in the quest for a re-examination of the case, because he believed there had been a miscarriage of justice, and was subsequently proved correct. You seem to be mixing up your feelings of morality about the actions of some young people, with the objective considerations of the laws of the land.

I don't think evidence of her previous sexual encounters is relevant. It has no bearing on how drunk she was, nor whether she consented. Yes I am aware she did not accuse him of rape.

Regardless of the laws of the land, I don't want him to play for us. But he does, hence my severely lessened interests this season (admittedly I am also abroad this year).

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

I hold a grudge against someone who is in a position of responsibility and has a fantastic lifestyle and salary to mitigate the fact he has to live with being a role model. I hold a grudge that he has sex with a girl who was smashed and doesn't remember when he should have been at home with his missus. I have a grudge that for him it's a job, whereas for me it's a club for life and after the most enjoyable season for years, I have lost interest again.

But mainly I have a grudge because we paid half a million for a striker and again on deadline we have to buy another one because no one seems to have the faith that he'll do the job.

We didn't need him, we don't need him and still we have to pay his wages.

Fuck you. What an idiot you really are.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Fuck you. What an idiot you really are.

And a selfish idiot to boot,he's abroad,fuck us back home watching the team,that's his attitude

 

[Bladepicker]

I don't think her previous sex life is relevant. It has no bearing on how drunk she was, nor whether she consented. Just my view, obviously one that was not shared by the relevant legal minds.

Or by the members of the jury.

It wasn't her previous sex life per se - that as evidence is not admissable. It was the fact that things she said/did/texted would corroborate Ched's version of events that night. For that not to be allowed as evidence is surely not fair and prejudicing a case.

I find it bizarre that you feel that strongly about a player who did something morally reprehensible but not illegal when younger that you would consider not fully following one of the most exciting United teams we have had for years.

You're entitled to that view obviously I just think it's Roberto levels of bonky madness.

 

[Bladepicker]

Fuck you. What an idiot you really are.

The Ched subject really brings the best out in people. I don't agree with Sheff de party but he is totally entitled to that view and there is no need to react like that and wheel out personal abuse is there?

 

[Sheff de party]

Fuck you. What an idiot you really are.

Posts like yours just make a mockery of forums really.

And you weren't even that good a chef.

 

[Sheff de party]

Or by the members of the jury.

It wasn't her previous sex life per se - that as evidence is not admissable. It was the fact that things she said/did/texted would corroborate Ched's version of events that night. For that not to be allowed as evidence is surely not fair and prejudicing a case.

I find it bizarre that you feel that strongly about a player who did something morally reprehensible but not illegal when younger that you would consider not fully following one of the most exciting United teams we have had for years.

You're entitled to that view obviously I just think it's Roberto levels of bonky madness.

I can see how it may look bizarre, but I really do feel that strongly about it. It's not that I will ditch the Blades, but it really has tempered my excitement knowing that Ched will be contributing. In addition, I have plenty of objections on purely footballing grounds (clearly not fit, hasn't played much recently, wasn't great last time we were here). To be fair, I am in New Zealand this year so it's easier to lose interest.

It's the same as the fact I would genuinely rather see us play good, entertaining football and lose a game I attended than grind out a drab 1-0 win. Some people find that incredible, but it's something me and my Dad wholeheartedly agree on.

 

[Sheff de party]

And a selfish idiot to boot,he's abroad,fuck us back home watching the team,that's his attitude

That's got to be a joke I'm guessing!

Whether I want Ched to do well, or indeed United to do well, has very little impact on whether they actually will.

If you're happy watching Ched play for us, that's fine. I'm just not. It's really that simple, you don't have to be so offended. I'm not.

And I want us to do well all the time. And do well without him. I think we will do both.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

The Ched subject really brings the best out in people. I don't agree with Sheff de party but he is totally entitled to that view and there is no need to react like that and wheel out personal abuse is there?

I think it does warrant it in this persons case,but that's just my opinion,and one I am fully entitled to is it not?

The latest from this clown is that he would rather see us play well and lose,than win,beggars belief

 

[coolhandluke]

Leaving the moral jousting aside for a moment , can anyone give me a straight answer to whether Ched is facing a lengthy spell out following an operation on his ankle ?

Thank you in advance .

 

[Bladepicker]

I think it does warrant it in this persons case,but that's just my opinion,and one I am fully entitled to is it not?

Not really no.

I might agree with your sentiment but it's not your forum (nor is it mine) and there are forum rules which are quite open and clear on personal abuse.

Plus in this case, however idiotic I find the person's views - he/she have not been nasty or personal to anyone on here so no, I don't think it warrents that either. No need.

Play the post - not the poster.

 

[bladesmanluke]

What happened to Ched is a male problem that could've happened to any bloke. Some very tall high horses on this thread.

 

[Snowman]

Leaving the moral jousting aside for a moment , can anyone give me a straight answer to whether Ched is facing a lengthy spell out following an operation on his ankle ?

Thank you in advance .

It was career ending. The surgeon thought he was a morally reprehensible individual and decided to accidentally sever his Achilles to teach him a lesson. But seriously, no I haven't a clue and haven't divined any guidance from this thread which continues to be quite amusing in a bizarre way. If you find out, let me know.

 

[Sheff de party]

I think it does warrant it in this persons case,but that's just my opinion,and one I am fully entitled to is it not?

The latest from this clown is that he would rather see us play well and lose,than win,beggars belief

I appreciate it's probably a controversial viewpoint but football is about entertainment for me. Winning is great, but it's not the be-all and end-all for me.

I don't go every week so when I do I want entertainment. Fortunately we have a manager who lays on both.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Not really no.

I might agree with your sentiment but it's not your forum (nor is it mine) and there are forum rules which are quite open and clear on personal abuse.

Plus in this case, however idiotic I find the person's views - he/she have not been nasty or personal to anyone on here so no, I don't think it warrents that either. No need.

Play the post - not the poster.

Well we will have to agree to disagree

 

[8lade]

Trial by national television , never seen owt like it before or since, and all while turning a blind eye to child prostitution what a country eh...

Well it served it's purpose being a nice aside to the fact that the BBC had allowed peadophiles to stalk it's corridors for over 30 years and people knew about them, then up pops a case that can deflect the flak away from them, 'is he guilty? Don't give a fuck, just get him in the headlines every day and our misdemeanours will soon be forgotten.'

 

[Sean Thornton]

Next time you disagree with a decision Wilder makes regarding team selection, or a pass one of our players makes, I'll remind you of that first point

I wouldn't "disagree" about a bad pass, it makes no sense. You're the one still banging on about Evans, a man who spent two years in prison for a lack of morals.

 

[Davalon]

People do know Billy Sharp cheated on his Mrs once?

I used to live near Tony Currie too, but you can't speak about some of his antics either.

 

[hodgy747]

Funny that because i am sat outside the Anglers Rest at Millers Dale,and Ched and Tasha are at the next table,he is having burger and chips,Tash vegetarian salad

Must be a doppelganger on the loose. Just seen my friend - 59 years of age, season ticket holder, was standing next to him when he was signing in and saw him write his name on the paperwork. Staff were very discreet, he was dressed in a tracksuit and trainers and she ended up having to sit next to him, she said he was very quiet and unassuming. Her son texted and asked her to get a selfie with him - she thought that was inappropriate.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

How silly of me. was expecting this to be 7 pages about his ankle. Not to be.