Old big nose

[metalblade]

Here's your answer - we had many, many marvellous times under Warnock.

Did we? the triple assault season, the season we were promoted but not much else in 7 years, just as many if not more embarrassments.

as others have noted i also used to wince when he came on tv but would also have to say that McCabe's biggest ever mistake was letting him go when we got relegated.. he would have got us straight back up.

No McCabe's biggest mistake not getting rid after we won promotion a decent manager would have kept us up rather than wasting millions on the likes of Shelton, Fahti etc we should have seen what was coming when he spunked money on Akinbadbuy and Horsfield.

 

[Champagneblade]

Had a rather large bet on his Crystal Palace side beating Robbo's mish mash in Dec 2007.

The odds were 13/5 on a Palace win , our season was going nowhere in a not going up not going down sort of way, the temptation proved too much as I was certain that it was 'written' he would prevail.

Felt a bit dirty not wanting us to equalise as we poured forward in the last few minutes but , hey , it sorted Crimbo out ......

You're fortunate it's 2017. We used to hang the likes of you!

 

[super_pig]

Did we? the triple assault season, the season we were promoted but not much else in 7 years, just as many if not more embarrassments.

No McCabe's biggest mistake not getting rid after we won promotion a decent manager would have kept us up rather than wasting millions on the likes of Shelton, Fahti etc we should have seen what was coming when he spunked money on Akinbadbuy and Horsfield.

fair point on the second comment but by then it was too late.. in the other 5 years we were always up there. cup runs etc?
Akinbadbuy has diplomatic immunity btw. he scored against 'them' and for that i consider 'all crimes paid'

 

[LoughboroBlade]

we should have seen what was coming when he spunked money on Akinbadbuy and Horsfield.

...the result of the board not stumping up the cash for Cameron Jerome.

 

[wizadry]

Warnock should've gone when we got promotion to the Prem. When we got relegated he should've probably being kept, this was just two of his many clusterfuck decisions that McCabe made but we've moved on now and this has been discussed way too many times.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Had a rather large bet on his Crystal Palace side beating Robbo's mish mash in Dec 2007.

The odds were 13/5 on a Palace win , our season was going nowhere in a not going up not going down sort of way, the temptation proved too much as I was certain that it was 'written' he would prevail.

Felt a bit dirty not wanting us to equalise as we poured forward in the last few minutes but , hey , it sorted Crimbo out ......

Ah yes, I've completely blocked out the 'Robbo years'

 

[Fanny magnet]

All this thread tells me is that come the day wilder has taken us as far as he can or outlived his usefulness he can look forward to hate filled vitriol from top supporters who knew he was a wanker before any of the rest of us

 

[Esablade]

decent manager would have kept us up rather than wasting millions on the likes of Shelton, Fahti etc

I believe we had the second lowest budget in the Prem that season and famously wouldn't stretch to getting Nugent in and scrapping round in Jan to get bodies in...same owd, same owd...

 

[Rodley]

All this thread tells me is that come the day wilder has taken us as far as he can or outlived his usefulness he can look forward to hate filled vitriol from top supporters who knew he was a wanker before any of the rest of us

It truly is same owd same owd posters.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Warnock should've gone when we got promotion to the Prem. When we got relegated he should've probably being kept, this was just two of his many clusterfuck decisions that McCabe made but we've moved on now and this has been discussed way too many times.

I don't get why any club would sack a promoted manager who's just taken a squad of his own players up. Ridiculous decision.

We were rarely in danger of going down, in fact how we eventually managed it was almost impossible. As suggested by the bookies, 33-1 to get relegated I believe.

We didn't spend millions, Shelton cost 2m....Fahti was 500k if I remember correctly...

Robbo got 4m after relegation just for Beattie!

 

[The Crab]

Ah yes, I've completely blocked out the 'Robbo years'

I don't think Robbo remembers too much of them either

 

[Harry's Game]

He is by far the biggest cunt in football, and that saying some, with all the cunts in the game. But nobody comes within a 100 miles of him in the cunt stakes.

I raise you Gary Megson and Joey Barton

 

[grafikhaus]

No McCabe's biggest mistake not getting rid after we won promotion a decent manager would have kept us up rather than wasting millions on the likes of Shelton, Fahti etc we should have seen what was coming when he spunked money on Akinbadbuy and Horsfield.

Absolutely agree. Warnock is a specialist at non-PL level, but out of his depth at PL level - as he proved with the Blades and QPR. When employing Warnock, it should be made clear from the outset that he was being employed with just one aim - to get into the PL. Do that, here's a nice tax-free bung and we part as friends. Maybe McCabe is just too nice to make that kind of decision. Maybe he took too much notice of a drunken, has-Bean actor? (See what I did there?)

Really enjoyed that vid. in Post #9. What a team we had then! Although it's worth noting that one of our stand-out players that night (Windass) had a 'spat' with NW just before the play-off final in Cardiff and was dropped. Interesting also that Del Geary and Alan Quinn played for the pigs that night (Loved Quinn's celebration in front of the kop.) I remember thinking 'You little rascal.' Or words to that effect.

 

[The Crab]

I raise you Gary Megson and Joey Barton

Two people who transcend Cuntism. They occupy a space that a word has yet to be invented for.

 

[raimond]

He is by far the biggest cunt in football, and that saying some, with all the cunts in the game. But nobody comes within a 100 miles of him in the cunt stakes.

Aye, but he's a Blade cunt. And that's a far better cunt than any other cunt

 

[Fulwood Blade]

I've lived though:

John Harris - great to be a Blade

Dave Bassett - great to be a Blade

Neil Warnock - great to be a Blade

Chris Wilder - great to be a Blade.

Now - all of these are since 1967........SOME good times, even more BAD times with some really really shit managers.

I am thankful for those good times and really really thankful that we have another good/caring manager in CW (& AK for that matter) that we will give me some more good times.

FFS - no one in this world is perfect - Leave NW alone as he manages another football club and all he is doing is being professional.

One thing is for sure - once a Blade, always a Blade and deep down NW is too, for ALL his faults.

UTB

 

[CarlMcBlade]

"That embarrassing cunt" was not nearly as embarrassing as the barrow load of embarrassing cunts that followed him.
Neil will always have a esteemed place in this clubs history.........warts n all.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I don't get why any club would sack a promoted manager who's just taken a squad of his own players up. Ridiculous decision.

We were rarely in danger of going down, in fact how we eventually managed it was almost impossible. As suggested by the bookies, 33-1 to get relegated I believe.

We didn't spend millions, Shelton cost 2m....Fahti was 500k if I remember correctly...

Robbo got 4m after relegation just for Beattie!

We were relegated because someone took their eye of the ball thinking about money too much.

We spent around £12m on players that season. Around £3m. "For the future" . Look how that turned out.

 

[Sean Thornton]

"That embarrassing cunt" was not nearly as embarrassing as the barrow load of embarrassing cunts that followed him.
Neil will always have a esteemed place in this clubs history.........warts n all.

Of course he has. And quite rightly. However for me, Pompey, his constant whining to the press about his contract, selections against Wigan, utter capitulation against Villa and spun king almost £3m in January without strengthening the team leaves a bad taste.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

We were relegated because someone took their eye of the ball thinking about money too much.

We spent around £12m on players that season. Around £3m. "For the future" . Look how that turned out.

In fairness we did recoup the majority, if not all the outlay that season on the players we bought. Look at West Ham in the Allardyce season, top 5 at xmas but refused to discuss any new contract with Allardyce.

Result, won about 2 games the rest of the season.

You have to give managers incentives. Players get enough these days and their position is in far less danger than the managers.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Bassett, Warnock and to a certain extent Wilder are all cut from the same cloth.
Both Bassett and Warnock had their detractors at the lane.(even through good times)Wilder WILL eventually split opinion too. But they have all achieved for this club and should be afforded the respect they deserved.

 

[Sean Thornton]

In fairness we did recoup the majority, if not all the outlay that season on the players we bought. Look at West Ham in the Allardyce season, top 5 at xmas but refused to discuss any new contract with Allardyce.

Result, won about 2 games the rest of the season.

You have to give managers incentives. Players get enough these days and their position is in far less danger than the managers.

That season we had a net spend of £10m though.

I always wonder if the die was cast with NW's claim Mandaric had offered him the Pompey job, which he's claimed again since, despite MM denying it unequivocally in the mainstream press, most lately when Warnocks book came out. (Mills and Boon would have loved to publish such a tender love story between Neil and himself) . It appears he tried to pull the wool over McCabes eyes, if so, it backfired. I think he'd have gone even if we had stayed up to be honest, his days were numbered in my opinion.

The incentive for managers should be to do their best. The Allardyce analogy is interesting though. Two men obsessed with money and their own egos. Did both of them seem to give a toss? There's an argument that they didn't.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

That season we had a net spend of £10m though.

I always wonder if the die was cast with NW's claim Mandaric had offered him the Pompey job, which he's claimed again since, despite MM denying it unequivocally in the mainstream press, most lately when Warnocks book came out. (Mills and Boon would have loved to publish such a tender love story between Neil and himself) . It appears he tried to pull the wool over McCabes eyes, if so, it backfired. I think he'd have gone even if we had stayed up to be honest, his days were numbered in my opinion.

The incentive for managers should be to do their best. The Allardyce analogy is interesting though. Two men obsessed with money and their own egos. Did both of them seem to give a toss? There's an argument that they didn't.

I agree that Warnock should have gone had he kept us up, his mentality for the away games was awful and that Villa result and performance will never be forgotten. However, I believe he would have taken us back up had he received the same funding Robson had.

 

[Silent Blade]

Here's a question, how many times have we actually played against teams managed by him ?

Without checking, there's QPR since he left us, that embarrassing 0-3 which saw the end of his mate Kev, but I suspect there aren't many if any more ?

29 Dec 2007 Sheffield United v Crystal Palace L 0-1 League Championship
20 Dec 2008 Sheffield United v Crystal Palace D 2-2 League Championship
03 May 2009 Crystal Palace v Sheffield United D 0-0 League Championship
12 Dec 2009 Sheffield United v Crystal Palace W 2-0 League Championship

 

[LoughboroBlade]

However, I believe he would have taken us back up had he received the same funding Robson had.

He'd have probably also kept us up had the purse-strings been loosened in January to the extent they were 6 months later. For all the criticism that Warnock got over the January window, there's a reason we ended up going from a starting position of bidding for the likes of Dave Nugent and Stephen Warnock, but having to settle for signings for the future in Shelton and Fathi.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

He'd have probably also kept us up had the purse-strings been loosened in January to the extent they were 6 months later. For all the criticism that Warnock got over the January window, there's a reason we ended up going from a starting position of bidding for the likes of Dave Nugent and Stephen Warnock, but having to settle for signings for the future in Shelton and Fathi.

At the time I thought Fahti was a very shrewd signing. For some reason he just didn't fancy him, or played him in the wrong position.

That said....giving him a chance to shop at Waitrose rather than Aldi might have been more fruitful.

 

[Sean Thornton]

He'd have probably also kept us up had the purse-strings been loosened in January to the extent they were 6 months later. For all the criticism that Warnock got over the January window, there's a reason we ended up going from a starting position of bidding for the likes of Dave Nugent and Stephen Warnock, but having to settle for signings for the future in Shelton and Fathi.

Alternatively if he wanted a striker he had around £3m available so instead of setting his sights a bit lower he bought "for the future" instead.

God knows why McCabe let him at the time. Maybe it eventually dawned on him.....

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

For every full season that Warnock was our manager we finished above Wednesday (7 in a row).

Enough said.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Alternatively if he wanted a striker he had around £3m available so instead of setting his sights a bit lower he bought "for the future" instead.

It is of course possible that he explored what was available and found there weren't good options for that money in the English market. He took a punt on Stead, a bargain at 750k – given his history of stockpiling strikers, do you think if there was another of that sort of value that he'd have turned down the opportunity to bring one in? The harsh reality is that the January window inflates fees for quality players – we should have had an eye on either the cash from an extra year at the top, or the parachute payments, and pushed the boat out for a quality striker.

 

[Malaga Blade]

It's worth remembering that when Warnock first arrived at the club we were often only pulling in around 10-12k at the Lane, sometimes lower if I remember correctly (may have been under Heath). Completely unheard of these days, but it just shows what a poor state the club was in at the time and how well he was able to turn things around. Also gave us the triple assault season and a promotion to the Premier League, something no one else managed. Granted he was well out of his depth in the PL although the board has to shoulder some of the blame for not allocating sufficient funds for the extra quality we required, in my opinion of course.