Squad valuation

[Barney]

The fact that Stearman has just been secured for 1/3rd of what you quote, also makes several of your other values equally wide of the mark.

Which leads me to think you, as opposed to some others, are just looking for a bite !!

UTB

I thought the question was the lowest we'd accept?

Their true value might be lower than the figures I state but as I say, the figures are the amount I'd accept, not value.

 

[DronnieBlade]

I thought the question was the lowest we'd accept?

Their true value might be lower than the figures I state but as I say, the figures are the amount I'd accept, not value.

OK.

As it turns out, with the news just out on BL, who gives a shit anyway.

God bless.

 

[B14Nco]

Okay I can't help myself. Why we'd even contemplate 'selling' any of our first team squad for anything less would puzzle me.
(That's not saying I think it's realistic).

Moore: £1.5mill
Lafferty: £750k
Wright: £500k
O'Connell: £4mill
Basham: £2mill
Freeman: £1mill
Fleck: £5mill
Coutts: £1.5mill
Duffy: £750k
Sharp: worth 750k wouldn't sell him for that tho.
Clarke: £750k
---
Lavery: £500k
Carruthers: £1mill
Hanson: £500k
---
Reed: £200k + massive sell on
Long: £100k + average sell on
Hussey: FREE
Wilson: FREE
Done: £300k
Wallace: FREE
Brayford: £700k
---
Evans: £500k
Baldock: £750k
Thomas: £500k
Stevens: £750k
Stearman: £750k

Brooks: £3mill + massive sell on
Whiteman: £1.5mill + massive sell on

 

[dazzlingblade]

If the likes of Rhodes and Reach go for £9 million upwards then I would want at least £47 million for John Fleck.

We need to ditch this small time mentality with regards to transfer fees especially now we are back in the Championship. So what if they are not even proven at a certain level, there are players who have barely kicked a ball going for £10million.

I hope our attitude will has changed and we will start playing hardball on transfers from now on.

altered for realism

 

[DronnieBlade]

Okay I can't help myself. Why we'd even contemplate 'selling' any of our first team squad for anything less would puzzle me.
(That's not saying I think it's realistic).

Moore: £1.5mill
Lafferty: £750k
Wright: £500k
O'Connell: £4mill
Basham: £2mill
Freeman: £1mill
Fleck: £5mill
Coutts: £1.5mill
Duffy: £750k
Sharp: worth 750k wouldn't sell him for that tho.
Clarke: £750k
---
Lavery: £500k
Carruthers: £1mill
Hanson: £500k
---
Reed: £200k + massive sell on
Long: £100k + average sell on
Hussey: FREE
Wilson: FREE
Done: £300k
Wallace: FREE
Brayford: £700k
---
Evans: £500k
Baldock: £750k
Thomas: £500k
Stevens: £750k
Stearman: £750k

Brooks: £3mill + massive sell on
Whiteman: £1.5mill + massive sell on

Hanson = Lavery !!!!!

Clarke = Sharp !!!!!!!!!!!!

You started your Friday at lunch time ???

UTB

 

[bladesmanluke]

Moore: £750,000
Lafferty: £400,000
Wright: £400,000
O'Connell: £3,500,000
Basham: £1,250,000
Freeman: £1,250,000
Fleck: £4,500,000
Coutts: £1,500,000
Duffy: £300,000
Sharp: £2,500,000
Clarke: £250,000
---
Lavery: £575,000
Carruthers: £375,000
Hanson: £225,000
---
Reed: £50,000 (or free if not moved on week before window closes)
Long: £100,000
Hussey: £50,000 (or free if not moved on week before window closes)
Wilson: £100,000 (or free if not moved on week before window closes)
Done: £150,000 (or free if not moved on week before window closes)
Wallace: £50,000 (or free if not moved on week before window closes)
Brayford: £250,000 (less than value due to high wages)
---
Evans: £400,000
Baldock: £600,000
Thomas: £350,000
Stevens: £350,000
Stearman: £3,500,000

Brooks: £7,500,000 + sell on clause
Whiteman: £350,000

Now there's someone with a bit of common sense!

 

[blade too long]

Moore: £500k
Lafferty: £200k
Wright: £50k
O'Connell: £950k
Basham: £750k
Freeman: £850k
Fleck: £1m
Coutts: £800k
Duffy: £250k
Sharp: £500k
Clarke: £125k
---
Lavery: £200k
Carruthers: £400k
Hanson: Mars bar !
---
Reed: £100,000+ sell on clause
Long: £500k +sell on clause
Hussey Free
Wilson: Free
Done: £150,000 (or free if not moved on week before window

and some people say Im daft 50 k for wright , probably as big an insult as Ive ever seen

 

[dingledog]

A successful season in the Championship would drastically alter any valuations, as indeed would a poor season.

 

[Maidenhead]

The value of any player is that at which a willing buyer meets a willing seller.

What a complete waste of time this thread is.

 

[DronnieBlade]

and some people say Im daft 50 k for wright , probably as big an insult as Ive ever seen

What did we pay ?

How longs his contract ?

What resale value would he have for the buying club ?

For what he did for us last season, his worth to us has been significantly more. But on the open market, £50k to £75k is about where it's at.

Same reason I only put £500k for Sharp. Virtually no resale value in 3 years time.

UTB

 

[blade too long]

What did we pay ?

How longs his contract ?

What resale value would he have for the buying club ?

For what he did for us last season, his worth to us has been significantly more. But on the open market, £50k to £75k is about where it's at.

Same reason I only put £500k for Sharp. Virtually no resale value in 3 years time.

UTB

yes a player who played two thirds of a season and never lost a game did nothing special What we paid means nothing
what did leicester pay for Vardy players stock rises winning a title and the valuations were for now not 3 seasons time

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Shall we guess the body mass index of the players next?

 

[BushBlade]

If you drew a graph comparing valuations to ability you'd see that in the past 12 months the line has changed. Starts off a nice 45 degree line but then the valuation sharply increases for such a small increase in quality.

There used to be a simple equation
If you want a 10% increase in quality then expect to pay something like 10-20% more.
If you want a 20% increase in quality then expect to pay something like 20 to 40% more etc.

The problem now is that the PL millions has distroyed the normal pattern for player valuations.
Clubs traditionally wanted value for money, now some clubs can almost afford to waste money or gamble their money away.

Let's take Fleck for example, logic suggests he's worth £1 milion, maybe £2 million max
BUT if he manages to increase his standards by a mere 10 or 20% in the Championship
Then his valuation will be more like £5 to £10 million.

Also these days there's the POTENTIAL factor.
Some clubs are so awash with money that they no longer mind gambling large sums on potential.
So that means someone like Brooks, who's probably worth £200K max then becomes worth £2 million to any PL club. Really it's a bit of a minefield these days trying to guess player valuations.

Tend to agree. There are a lot of variables to take into account. All the above and things like how desperate are we to sell, how desperate is the player to leave, how many clubs are interested in the player.
And things increase so quickly. Two years ago Liverpool wouldn't pay £5m for Dele Alli but I read today someone's offered over £4m for a kid from QPR who's played once.

 

[Danny_Blade]

I'm basing my values on what I think we would realistically get for them, not on what I think they're worth personally.

Moore: £600,000 - we only signed him for £300k - £500k didn't we so I don't think his value will have increased by too much after 1 (albeit successful) season
Lafferty: £350,000
Wright: £75,000 - as good as he's been for us we'd still only get a nominal fee for him unfortunately
O'Connell: £1,300,000
Basham: £300,000
Freeman: £1,200,000 - would probably have this nearer 1.5m but I can't remember what remains on his contract length wise
Fleck: £1,750,000 - still a star player but needs to prove it in the Championship first which I'm sure he will, then he'll be worth further into the millions
Coutts: £450,000 - as good as he is this price is pushing it a little, he'll look a lot more average in the Championship
Duffy: £225,000
Sharp: £550,000 - can still score goals so added another £50,000 on top of what we signed him for
Clarke: £200,000 - only a matter of time before he starts to decline but will still score plenty of goals if he moves to a club in L1
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Lavery: £350,000 - has been decent for us but still a little unproven on the whole, if he does really well next season then anywhere upto £1m
Carruthers: £400,000 - similar to Lavery above
Hanson: £210,000 - unlikely he'll ever cut it at Championship level
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Reed: £220,000 + sell on clause
Long: £175,000 + sell on clause
Hussey: £50,000 (or free if not moved on week before window closes)
Wilson: £85,000 (or free if not moved on week before window closes)
Done: £180,000 (or free if not moved on week before window closes)
Wallace: £50,000 (or free if not moved on week before window closes)
Brayford: £410,000 (less than value due to high wages)
---
Evans: extremely difficult to put a price on Ched at this moment in time, we just don't know how he's going to turn out for the upcoming season, I would wait until the JTW and re-assess then
Baldock: £380,000
Thomas: £350,000
Stevens: £350,000
---
Brooks: £1,250,000 + sell on clause - bumped his price up a bit as our youngsters have usually progressed well after we've sold them to a bigger club, he's got a good pedigree too as we signed him from Man City in the first place.
Whiteman: £160,000 + sell on clause
Hallam: £130,000 + sell on clause

 

[Bruce Wayne]

McCabes valuation - all available for a toffee crisp wrapper

My valuation of Fleck is he's worth £10m

 

[B14Nco]

Hanson = Lavery !!!!!

Clarke = Sharp !!!!!!!!!!!!

You started your Friday at lunch time ???

UTB

Are you saying Lavery is worth more? Or nowhere near? I'd say Hanson would be more sought after than Lavery? He has 'a very particular set of skills' where as Lavery hasn't achieved his potential yet? But wouldn't get rid of either of them for less than 500k. Would be pointless.

The Billy one I knew would seem a bit weird... his value to our team and set up I'm not sure you could value... but realistically I don't think we'd get more than £500k-£1mill which I think we 'could' realistically get for Clarke (although I've probably over valued him).

Would I get rid of Sharp? No.
Could we get a mill for him? No.

Would I get rid of Fleck for 5mill? No.
Could we get 5mill for him? Possibly.

 

[B14Nco]

Hanson = Lavery !!!!!

Clarke = Sharp !!!!!!!!!!!!

You started your Friday at lunch time ???

UTB

And when this is coming from someone that thinks Long is worth 50% of what you think Fleck is worth (And that being stupidly low) I feel I shouldn't have bothered replying.

 

[B14Nco]

What I find crazy about this thread is what a low opinion of our current team so many have... there are people kicking off when we're only buying players from league 1 for under 500k but some people seem to think you could pick up our entire squad for less than a couple of mill!

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

What's with a few people valuing Lafferty at £750k+?

Are you all off your tits?!

 

[Bladezz]

I would pretty much double most people's posts.

JoC has potential to be better than Roberts who's gone for £5+ million.

 

[8lade]

How did this 'thread' get to 50 posts?
look up Transfermarkt.co.uk

 

[Bucks Blade]

The fact that Stearman has just been secured for 1/3rd of what you quote, also makes several of your other values equally wide of the mark.

Which leads me to think you, as opposed to some others, are just looking for a bite !!

UTB

Is that Not a bite

 

[Mario1889]

Fleck.... not a penny less than £5m!!

 

[HolmesfieldBlade]

Suddenly it looks like the squad has increased in value 30-40%

 

[FMBlade1]

UPDATE

Moore: £1,000,000
Lafferty: £400,000
Wright: £1,500,000
O'Connell: £5,000,000
Basham: £1,250,000
Stearman £1,75,000
Freeman: £1,250,000
Fleck: £5,000,000
Coutts: £3,000,000
Duffy: £1,750,000
Sharp: £10,000,000
Clarke: £500,000
---
Lavery: £250,000
Carruthers: £250,000
Hanson: £0
---
Brayford: £400,000 (less than value due to high wages)
---
Evans: £600,000
Baldock: £800,000
Thomas: £350,000
Stevens: £1,500,000
---
Brooks £10,000,000 +sell on clause
Whiteman £1,000,000 +sell on clause
Hallam £325,000 + sell on clause

 

[Harry's Game]

UPDATE

Moore: £1,000,000
Lafferty: £400,000
Wright: £1,000,000
O'Connell: £3,500,000
Basham: £1,250,000
Stearman £1,75,000
Freeman: £1,250,000
Fleck: £4,000,000
Coutts: £2,500,000
Duffy: £1,500,000
Sharp: £10,000,000
Clarke: £500,000
---
Lavery: £250,000
Carruthers: £250,000
Hanson: £0
---
Brayford: £400,000 (less than value due to high wages)
---
Evans: £600,000
Baldock: £800,000
Thomas: £350,000
Stevens: £1,500,000
---
Brooks £10,000,000 +sell on clause
Whiteman £1,000,000 +sell on clause
Hallam £325,000 + sell on clause

Are you okay tonight? Do want us to ring someone?

 

[FMBlade1]

Are you okay tonight? Do want us to ring someone?

I'm fine thank you, but more concerned about you to be honest. You keep commenting on my posts criticizing them with no substance, did you just get your level one's in your GCSE's recently?

 

[Ricky]

Are you okay tonight? Do want us to ring someone?

At least he didn't bump his own thread for once...... probably messaged S11Blade to do it for him instead.

 

[Harry's Game]

I'm fine thank you, but more concerned about you to be honest. You keep commenting on my posts criticizing them with no substance, did you just get your level one's in your GCSE's recently?

Have a look around mate.. you are having a mare.. a few think so.

 

[Ricky]

Can anyone honestly say O'Connell and Fleck aren't worth at least £3m now? Especially in this age of batshit crazy transfer fees.

You can bump the value of Basham, Freeman and Coutts as well after their contract extensions.