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Before anyone says it: Wilder deserves the full backing of fans and the club after his great success last season, and I don't doubt the man at all. He's by far the best manager we've had in a very long time, it goes without saying. Also, his signings last season were fantastic and exactly what we needed.

However, I sit here and can't help but worry about the signings we are making now: most of them are players that have been cutting there cloth in League 1, relegated from League 1 or relegated from League 2. We are yet to see any proven Championship players come in, and there aren't any credible rumors of us bringing any in (maybe you could say EEL is proven, but I think 'proven championship' requires a good few more seasons than he has had, but even if he is proven, that's still only one).

Does anyone else have this feeling that or am I on my own? I'm not doubting the players aren't good, but I can't help but think we need to bring in players proven at that level. Will we see some coming in with the Harry and Walker money?
 



Woolford and Hammond were 'Proven' championship players.
Have a bit of faith in what Wilder is building here. I for one am delighted that we are approaching players from leagues one and two with points to prove, rather than ones chasing a last pay day - see George Boyd who the pigs are getting excited about.
 
UlrikaJonssonPaintTrophy said:
Before anyone says it: Wilder deserves the full backing of fans and the club after his great success last season, and I don't doubt the man at all. He's by far the best manager we've had in a very long time, it goes without saying. Also, his signings last season were fantastic and exactly what we needed.

However, I sit here and can't help but worry about the signings we are making now: most of them are players that have been cutting there cloth in League 1, relegated from League 1 or relegated from League 2. We are yet to see any proven Championship players come in, and there aren't any credible rumors of us bringing any in (maybe you could say EEL is proven, but I think 'proven championship' requires a good few more seasons than he has had, but even if he is proven, that's still only one).

Does anyone else have this feeling that or am I on my own? I'm not doubting the players aren't good, but I can't help but think we need to bring in players proven at that level. Will we see some coming in with the Harry and Walker money?
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Just take a look at John Fleck for instance. Looking average at best at Coventry before CW waves his magic wand over him. Most average players are mishandled by coaches and managers and therefore plod along into mediocrity. I look at this way that if Chris Wilder see`s potential then that is all that is required.

Have faith.
 
Grecian2000 said:
I'm desperately worried that everyone is way more worried than me.
So chilled I even let a "Go compare" advert play all the way through without looking for the remote or swearing profusely last night. Eaaasssyyyy . . . . .
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All very wonderful for you, but this week is the build up to "My ST hasn't arrived " week .
 
I go the way that Providence dictates with the assurance of a sleepwalker.
 
No, we're doing it right on the whole.

In 6 months time the likes of JOC, Fleck, Coutts, Freeman and probably a couple of the new lads will been seen as quality Championship players and their valuations will have all more than quadrupled.

A couple of 30 year old Champy McChampfaces could be useful to add some experience, but quality is quality and I'd rather us be going for players who are good now, and will only get better than a load of Champy McChampfaces who did an alright job of filling in when called upon by Bristol City and QPR.
 
Gimli said:
Woolford and Hammond were 'Proven' championship players.
Have a bit of faith in what Wilder is building here. I for one am delighted that we are approaching players from leagues one and two with points to prove
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Agree with that. These players were the standout players in their respective teams.

Gimli said:
rather than ones chasing a last pay day - see George Boyd who the pigs are getting excited about.
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Disagree with that. George Boyd is a fantastic player at Championship level (only 31 too). Not sure where he will play or who he will keep out though. Maybe Wallace down the Right?
 
Gimli said:
Woolford and Hammond were 'Proven' championship players.
Have a bit of faith in what Wilder is building here. I for one am delighted that we are approaching players from leagues one and two with points to prove, rather than ones chasing a last pay day - see George Boyd who the pigs are getting excited about.
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I definitely have faith in him, but it would be naive not to be skeptical - i'm not saying chase last pay day players either, but there are a lot of players who have been in the championship for a while that we could look for
 
There are two threads in the front page already discussing it. Why start another one?

Oh, and welcome to the board, if you're not a pig.
 
SteveBlade said:
No, we're doing it right on the whole.

In 6 months time the likes of JOC, Fleck, Coutts, Freeman and probably a couple of the new lads will been seen as quality Championship players and their valuations will have all more than quadrupled.

A couple of 30 year old Champy McChampfaces could be useful to add some experience, but quality is quality and I'd rather us be going for players who are good now, and will only get better than a load of Champy McChampfaces who did an alright job of filling in when called upon by Bristol City and QPR.
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We don't need to go for "A couple of 30 year old Champy McChampfaces" for experience, what about players who are 25-27 who have done 3-4 seasons in championship and looking to move on? Its a different argument / question if they don't want to come to the lane though

I agree that JOC, Fleck, Coutts, Freeman will be good, but Ched, Leon won't hack it IMO and the players we have brought in are unproven
 
Happy with all the signings so far. Can't wait to see them. Really hoping Ched can recapture his previous form too. A big ask that I know - but if he can then we've got ourselves a player there who will be a real threat in the Championship.
 
Disagree with that. George Boyd is a fantastic player at Championship level (only 31 too). Not sure where he will play or who he will keep out though. Maybe Wallace down the Right?[/QUOTE]

Yep that's fair enough, I'm happy to accept that he could still have a lot to offer. I do still think we are doing it the right way, some Blades want us to start throwing more cash about because that apparently guarantees that we will be successful - I don't think that is necessary or in any way better than building a side the way Wilder has.
 



UlrikaJonssonPaintTrophy said:
We don't need to go for "A couple of 30 year old Champy McChampfaces" for experience, what about players who are 25-27 who have done 3-4 seasons in championship and looking to move on? Its a different argument / question if they don't want to come to the lane though

I agree that JOC, Fleck, Coutts, Freeman will be good, but Ched, Leon won't hack it IMO and the players we have brought in are unproven
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Everyones unproven until they play.
 
yes, I am a bit worried. Wilder deserves all our backing, even maybe if we go back down, we should keep him. But I think we will be strong enough to stay out of the bottom 3. I do think it is going to be tough though. Wilder is going for the team spirit, togetherness angle like a Wimbledon from a few years ago. Hope it still works and its not just all about money anymore. We will soon find out! The pace issue, still concerns me, mainly at the back. Pacy strikers playing on the shoulder of our defence!
 
Nervous excitement, unaware what to expect, thrilled about the unknown and looking forward to the cut and thrust of next season, yes. Worried.......no. There are far more important things to worry about. COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE WILDERS WIZAAARRDS!
 
I'm not worried at all, signing "big" named experienced players ended up with us spunking all our cash and ending up in league one. It's about time we tried an alternative route & I trust Wilder to do just that.

All that time in league one and the first time we actually sign players that want to play for the club and the manager and cut the wasters from our wage bill and we win promotion.

You'll never please everyone but I suspect that the fans crying out for "big name" signing are either of the younger generation or are taking too much notice of the pig fans who are trying to justify their useless manager splashing millions and so far getting nowhere.

Let Wilder get on with it, he's building something big and with us all on board and behind him and the club they'll be no stopping us.
 
Context is everything. As has been written above, given time and other supporters will be commenting on the likes of Fleck, JOC, Coutts etc, asking why their clubs don't target players of their quality? Wilder's approach is spot on. Whatever he chooses to spend, whoever he decides to buy, he'll know that the team he's continuing to build will get stronger and stronger, no duds, no cast-offs, just players who'll integrate and improve. Isn't that the game-plan all clubs should follow?
 
Antonb said:
yes, I am a bit worried. Wilder deserves all our backing, even maybe if we go back down, we should keep him. But I think we will be strong enough to stay out of the bottom 3. I do think it is going to be tough though. Wilder is going for the team spirit, togetherness angle like a Wimbledon from a few years ago. Hope it still works and its not just all about money anymore. We will soon find out! The pace issue, still concerns me, mainly at the back. Pacy strikers playing on the shoulder of our defence!
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I really think that Wilder is trying to build more that just the 'Wimbledon spirit'. Im confident we will have more than enough to survive and optimistic for a top half finish.
The players he is signing/approaching are the best players that those clubs have, these people aren't nobodies, having championship experience could help, but doesn't guarantee success.
 
Esablade said:
One concern is that if we are having a season of 'survival', some fans/the board might turn against Wilder...
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I doubt it, not short term anyway. We know for a fact that his teams will always give 100% and try and play decent football, that makes a massive difference to, say, watching a Micky Adams team struggling or a Kevin Blackwell/Nigel Clough team trying to stay up with 46 draws and nicking the odd win. Of course, a run of defeats and questions would be asked but I think Wilder will have much more leeway than most managers in that position.

Back to the OP, half of last season's regulars have Chumpionship experience so, no, not worried in terms of the personnel, once Jags is added of course ;)
 
To be fair I wouldn't mind a couple of players with very recent (ie last season) Championship or higher experience but I don't think it's essential.

But if it all goes wrong and we go down we'll be ruing this transfer method and the knives will be out for the board that's for certain.
I was expecting the Prince and Kev to throw a BIT of money at it at least, but that's another story.
 
Not worried in the slightest.

We smashed league 1. We are making additions and the window doesn't shut for the best part of 2 months.

Most transfer activity doesn't happen early anyway. If Wilder thinks our squad / signings are the best use of his budget then that's fine by me.
 



Despite last season, I'm definitely worried.

This is not due to our signings (and where they're signed from); Barnsley, Preston and Burton did fine with similar if not worse signings than ours.

It's simply due to being a Sheffield United supporter and impending doom always being minutes away.
 
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