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[BladeInIreland]

Tbf, Keogh got 12 the next season too. Definitely second fiddle to Sharp, but he played his part.

James Hayter was scoring about 1 in 3 for Donny when Sharp was there too.

those would be his most effective partnerships, and they hardly tore it up. I think the best ya can hope for alongside him is a player scoring as you said 1 in3. May be wrong but I don't think there will be a player banging 20+ in alongside him.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

those would be his most effective partnerships, and they hardly tore it up. I think the best ya can hope for alongside him is a player scoring as you said 1 in3. May be wrong but I don't think there will be a player banging 20+ in alongside him.

Yeah, he's clearly been the main man in his best periods (especially Scunny & Doncaster, & now here too). Maybe only that spell at Southampton's been one where both him and another (Rickie Lambert) were both scoring heavily.

Having someone alongside & chipping in half his total though (& getting, say, 12-14) isn't too much to ask though, I'd have thought? Maybe Lavery would have if he'd been fit at the start of the season & had been able to develop a partnership?

 

[super_pig]

It's Hansons turn, helmets on!!!!!!
Strange that some folk just need to moan about summat isn't it!!!

.. at least Leon will be relieved

 

[Sean Thornton]

.. at least Leon will be relieved

Knills just managed to tempt Done down from the top of the Arts tower. Showed him all Dronnies posts.

 

[Kev Gee]

Yes but does he do unseen work like sammon?

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

can anyone name a striker who was prolific alongside sharp (whilst he was also banging them in) ?
I was thinking about this the other day and I can't think of one (probably is one)

James Beattie Mk1? (Unsure of total goals scored etc & really can't be arsed to look them up... but Beattie scored a hat full that season with Sharp also in the side).

I'm actually stunned that this subject has been brought up though. If you want a big target man type footballer who is prolific in front of goal then you're paying absolutely mega bucks for him! I can only think of 5 in recent times, off the top of my head with a good record in front of goal who could also be labelled a target man - Ibrahomovic, Thomas Muller, Diego Costa, Robert Lewandowski & Harry Kane. Barring Ibra, the other 4 would bring in huge amounts of money in transfer fees... something that didn't happen with Hanson. He was brought in to do a job, it wasn't to score 15 - 20 goals.

 

[BushBlade]

Tbf, Keogh got 12 the next season too. Definitely second fiddle to Sharp, but he played his part.

James Hayter was scoring about 1 in 3 for Donny when Sharp was there too.

Hayter's gonna hate?

 

[RammyBlade]

Its an example of the sum of the parts being better than its individual components. And also Hanson is a very valuable defender of set pieces so its not just scoring that matters but keeping them out ! Lay off James as he is a very good player

 

[Bladesthorpe]

I think his job description is 'target man', not striker. Does that change what we expect of him? Last night he did not play well, but I think he has so far made a positive contribution.

He didn't play well Hodgy really, I had him just behind O'Connell and Coutts for MOTM. He never shirked a challenge with those 2 brick shithouses and him and Jack were superb at stopping them getting on the end of the many aerial balls into OUR box last night.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

He didn't play well Hodgy really, I had him just behind O'Connell and Coutts for MOTM. He never shirked a challenge with those 2 brick shithouses and him and Jack were superb at stopping them getting on the end of the many aerial balls into OUR box last night.

I agree he worked really hard, but I didn't feel the ball stuck to him for a lay-off in the way it has in previous games. He certainly kept his 2 markers occupied, and particularly in the last 20 minutes he was isolated as Utd dropped deeper. I just felt things didn't come off for him. And he missed a couple of chances in the first half. But I like to have him in the team based on performances and results so far.

 

[BladeInIreland]

Yeah, he's clearly been the main man in his best periods (especially Scunny & Doncaster, & now here too). Maybe only that spell at Southampton's been one where both him and another (Rickie Lambert) were both scoring heavily.

Having someone alongside & chipping in half his total though (& getting, say, 12-14) isn't too much to ask though, I'd have thought? Maybe Lavery would have if he'd been fit at the start of the season & had been able to develop a partnership?

I believe had lavery played all season he would have those goals. And dare I say it, a fit Leon clarke.

 

[BladeInIreland]

James Beattie Mk1? (Unsure of total goals scored etc & really can't be arsed to look them up... but Beattie scored a hat full that season with Sharp also in the side).
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That actually didn't work out for sharp. He ended up chasing balls in bad arras to get it to beattie. So didn't score many himself.

 

[Rodley]

Totally disagree.

The target is to help the team win matches NOT score goals.

Emile Heskey scored 7 in 62 for England
And he scored 39 in 150 for Liverpool.

Quite a poor scoring record but he was deemed a success because his presence on the pitch
helped his strike partners become prolific.

The home match against Fleetwood highlighted how poor we were at set pieces and how we lacked physicality. Up to that game we were the exact opposite in style to Bolton. Teams had worked out that if they sit deep and defend in numbers then we would struggle to break them down.

Now we have Hanson that weakness has disappeared. If teams sit deep then we lump it into the box, Hanson causes havoc and Sharp is there to benefit from the knock downs. I've noticed at set pieces Hanson has 2 defenders marking him. So one could argue that the main reason why O'Connell scored his header last night was because Hanson was taking their best defenders with him leaving OConnell being marked by a weaker defender. Hence Hanson helped us score the first goal.

Don't get me wrong I think Hanson is limited, he's a more mobile Wayne Allison.
He will probably struggle in many matches in the Championship BUT he's a great tactical option for any manager. In some game (even in the Championship) Hanson will still be effective and help the team.

Nailed it.

 

[BusheyBlade]

Sorry, we needed someone of Hanson's type and there weren't a whole lot of those that also score a shed load of goals available for a reasonable price in January. So we've signed one who'll do enough to get us up, and the results are pretty damn hard to argue with.

This is a very good point. Strikers like Hanson who score lots tend to be rather expensive (see Drogba, Lukaku etc...).

 

[YES Blade]

Hanson works hard which is his first job. Unfortunately nobody seems to be able to pick him out with a decent cross. It's not like he's missing sitter after sitter.

Can we just leave things till the summer and enjoy this thing

Correct! As I said before we signed Hanson, it's not about having a big striker it's about the quality of the cross otherwise Peter Crouch would be scoring a headed goal every match.

Look at Yorke and Cole, they managed to score plenty of headers for Man U. Why? Because they had Beckham and Giggs putting in quality balls.

 

[YES Blade]

Anyone who has played defence will know that Hanson is the type of player who is your worst nightmare. Opponent's no they're in a battle with him, unlike certain other so called target men we've had in past season's.

Errrrr no he ain't! I think they would say playing against players like Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Suarez etc. They all have pace and trickery and most importantly can hurt you by putting the ball in the net.

Hanson can be compared to top level players like Jan Koller, Peter Crouch or Carston Jancker. They can "do a job" but ain't going to cause defenders any major problems consistently.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

It'll be reyt, stop mithering.

He'll score a belting header in the next few weeks and we'll all jizz ourselves silly.

 

[Silent Blade]

Now I know he hasn't cost a club record fee, nor scored a wondergoal at the Sty, nor does he wear his hair in fetchingly manicured dreadlocks. But it'd be nice if James Hanson chipped in & scored a goal or two here & there. You know, like strikers are meant to do...

Ally McCoist scored a lot more goals for Rangers than Mark Hateley did but Rangers fans would tell you that Hateley was more important to the team because he was the one that made it easy for McCoist.

 

[YES Blade]

Ally McCoist scored a lot more goals for Rangers than Mark Hateley did but Rangers fans would tell you that Hateley was more important to the team because he was the one that made it easy for McCoist.

Hateley scored 111 goals in 5 years at Rangers, why wouldn't the fans love him?

 

[Silent Blade]

Hateley scored 111 goals in 5 years at Rangers, why wouldn't the fans love him?

Eh?

 

[YES Blade]

Eh?

My point is you can't compare Hanson's contribution to a striker who scored 111 goals in 5 years. If Hanson was capable of that then this thread wouldn't have been started.

 

[sportinguista]

I thought following football on Ceefax was a thing of the past.

Last time I followed football on Ceefax we drew 2-2 at Chelsea. And then they interrupted the reading of the full time scores on Grandstand to inform me that Mark Stein had scored in the umpteenth minute of added time and that was that. Stopped my subscription to Ceefax there and then.

 

[Silent Blade]

My point is you can't compare Hanson's contribution to a striker who scored 111 goals in 5 years. If Hanson was capable of that then this thread wouldn't have been started.

Hanson would have scored that many for Rangers in 5 years anyway!

My point is that McCoist wouldnt have scored that many if Hateley didnt play for Rangers

 

[YES Blade]

Hanson would have scored that many for Rangers in 5 years anyway!

My point is that McCoist wouldnt have scored that many if Hateley didnt play for Rangers

Billy has scored 47 goals over two seasons playing without a settled strike partner.

I personally think it's more to do with Sharp's ability than his partners contribution.

 

[Silent Blade]

Billy has scored 47 goals over two seasons playing without a settled strike partner.

I personally think it's more to do with Sharp's ability than his partners contribution.

In the 9 games that Sharp has started alongside Hanson Sharp has scored 8 goals. How much more prolific would you like a partnership to be?

 

[Silent Blade]

Billy has scored 47 goals over two seasons playing without a settled strike partner.

I personally think it's more to do with Sharp's ability than his partners contribution.

And just for further evidence, in case you need any, Sharp has started 30 games without Hanson and scored 18 goals. His scoring record WITH Hanson is 1.25 games per goal. His record WITHOUT Hanson is 1.66 games per goal.

 

[sitwell]

Last time I followed football on Ceefax we drew 2-2 at Chelsea. And then they interrupted the reading of the full time scores on Grandstand to inform me that Mark Stein had scored in the umpteenth minute of added time and that was that. Stopped my subscription to Ceefax there and then.

Last time I went in ceefax or oracle I ended up in a shit tip in bemaladena for 7 days for £73

 

[YES Blade]

And just for further evidence, in case you need any, Sharp has started 30 games without Hanson and scored 18 goals. His scoring record WITH Hanson is 1.25 games per goal. His record WITHOUT Hanson is 1.66 games per goal.

Hanson wasn't even on the pitch for 3 of those goals!

 

[SteveBlade]

Fuck arguing this case again.