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Can anyone confidently claim that they feel entirely vindicated in their all their absolute views on players or management posted on here throughout the season?

From memory, personnel to have been written off at some point before and during this season include the following:
- Chris Wilder: I believe a number of posters decried him as a limited lower league manager during our rough start.
- Jake Wright: in the releavant view from, many Oxford supporters were of the view that while dependable in the league below, he was far from being suitable for League One. Perhaps understandably, many of us took this view to heart.
- Paul Coutts: again, an understandable one this; but I'd say the majority of us wouldn't have given him a second go after last season.
- Kieron Freeman: as above. On many's release lists, and slagged off by Portsmouth supporters in the league below, he's been outstanding pretty much all season long and I'd feel comfortable with him in the league above.

I suppose, this is a long way of asking the question; should we give Dean Hammond another go? (lol)

In all seriousness, will the way the season's gone mean you give players a longer crack of the whip in the future? Criticism is of course part and parcel, but are "not good enough" and "get rid" views a little bit daft now?
 



Houso said:
Can anyone confidently claim that they feel entirely vindicated in their all their absolute views on players or management posted on here throughout the season?

From memory, personnel to have been written off at some point before and during this season include the following:
- Chris Wilder: I believe a number of posters decried him as a limited lower league manager during our rough start.
- Jake Wright: in the releavant view from, many Oxford supporters were of the view that while dependable in the league below, he was far from being suitable for League One. Perhaps understandably, many of us took this view to heart.
- Paul Coutts: again, an understandable one this; but I'd say the majority of us wouldn't have given him a second go after last season.
- Kieron Freeman: as above. On many's release lists, and slagged off by Portsmouth supporters in the league below, he's been outstanding pretty much all season long and I'd feel comfortable with him in the league above.

I suppose, this is a long way of asking the question; should we give Dean Hammond another go? (lol)

In all seriousness, will the way the season's gone mean you give players a longer crack of the whip in the future? Criticism is of course part and parcel, but are "not good enough" and "get rid" views a little bit daft now?
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I'm not sure any player has been immune to this. Even Billy's been tarred with the NGE brush when he's had the temerity to fail to score more then once in a game over an extended period, or, heaven forbid, go 3 games without scoring!

It's the 'want it now, dispose and replace' attitude in microcosm.
 
The only crime I'm guilty of is wanting Coutts out. I was sick of the sight of him ambling about to zero effect.

Always liked Freeman and always give managers time. Didn't expect Wright to be as good as he is, but then who did?
 
I'll freely admit to be wrong about Freeman; had him firmly on my list of players to ship out this season and I'm staggered by his turnaround.

On the flipside, I'm starting to veer that way about Leon Clarke. Thought he'd be outstanding for us; particularly after the Chesterfield cameo. Just doesn't look like a good fit does he? :(

I refuse to change my opinion of McNulty though.
 
It's just that many players suit different styles of play, and come into their own under different systems and management.

The players he brings in are exciting, he doesn't just buy players, he brings them in having looked at their attributes, and knows exactly how they fit into our squad.

In a few years time we'll be hearing from rivals 'well it wasn't the most difficult job getting the Blades up when you look at the full internationals they had such as John Fleck, Paul Coutts, Keiron Freeman, Jack O'Connell and Samir Carruthers. My nan could have got them to the Premier League!'

Exciting times...
 
Tyler Durden said:
I've backed Stefan Scougall all along and despite the Forum Mob all spitefully rounding on him I support him now.
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And well done you for that.

However, and I don't want to dig through your past posts, you've presumably been wrong about someone too? Care to share?
 
Tyler Durden said:
I've backed Stefan Scougall all along and despite the Forum Mob all spitefully rounding on him I support him now.
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Houso said:
Can anyone confidently claim that they feel entirely vindicated in their all their absolute views on players or management posted on here throughout the season?

From memory, personnel to have been written off at some point before and during this season include the following:
- Chris Wilder: I believe a number of posters decried him as a limited lower league manager during our rough start.
- Jake Wright: in the releavant view from, many Oxford supporters were of the view that while dependable in the league below, he was far from being suitable for League One. Perhaps understandably, many of us took this view to heart.
- Paul Coutts: again, an understandable one this; but I'd say the majority of us wouldn't have given him a second go after last season.
- Kieron Freeman: as above. On many's release lists, and slagged off by Portsmouth supporters in the league below, he's been outstanding pretty much all season long and I'd feel comfortable with him in the league above.

I suppose, this is a long way of asking the question; should we give Dean Hammond another go? (lol)

In all seriousness, will the way the season's gone mean you give players a longer crack of the whip in the future? Criticism is of course part and parcel, but are "not good enough" and "get rid" views a little bit daft now?
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Guilty. 100%. Wasn't convinced about Wilder despite what he'd done at Northampton and was worried the job might be too big for him. Then when he came I changed my mind a bit but still wasn't sure after our poor start. It was more hope that he'd turn it round than real belief.

Wright. I thought he was here primarily to be CW's eyes and ears in the changing room and didn't think he'd play much.

Coutts. Thought his injuries had taken their toll and he wouldn't be able to play in a Wilder team.

Freeman. Thought he was a waster with a bad attitude.

So there you go. Got all of that wrong and I'm glad I did.
 
Tyler Durden said:
Enlighten me....
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Like I say, I have no desire to go through your post history. I imagine the majority of us will admit to being wrong at least once though.

I was wondering if amongst your self-back-patting for your Scougall views, there were any skeletons you'd admit to. Evidently not.
 
I wasn't wrong about Wilder, I never slated him. He incorporated a mess.

I was wrong about Wright in a way. I thought he might be decent back up but never expected this.

I thought Coutts and Freeman's days were numbered.

Thought EEL was a bad signing and Basham should've been nothing more than a sub.
 



Since he came in at half time v Oxford, I've thought O'Connell is an absolutely quality of player. Nothing I've seen since makes me doubt he's PL quality.

To counterbalance this, after 4 games I thought Tufty was out of his depth!!
 
I was wrong about Wilder. Thought he'd be the second coming of Mickey Adams. How wrong I was.

I was right about Coutts until this season. I didn't think he had it in him.

I do not recall having an opinion on Wright.

I've always thought Freeman was better than some give him credit for but I did not think he had this level of performance in him.

On the other hand, I was right about Sharp and Clark and George Long.
 
Houso said:
Can anyone confidently claim that they feel entirely vindicated in their all their absolute views on players or management posted on here throughout the season?

From memory, personnel to have been written off at some point before and during this season include the following:
- Chris Wilder: I believe a number of posters decried him as a limited lower league manager during our rough start.
- Jake Wright: in the releavant view from, many Oxford supporters were of the view that while dependable in the league below, he was far from being suitable for League One. Perhaps understandably, many of us took this view to heart.
- Paul Coutts: again, an understandable one this; but I'd say the majority of us wouldn't have given him a second go after last season.
- Kieron Freeman: as above. On many's release lists, and slagged off by Portsmouth supporters in the league below, he's been outstanding pretty much all season long and I'd feel comfortable with him in the league above.

I suppose, this is a long way of asking the question; should we give Dean Hammond another go? (lol)

In all seriousness, will the way the season's gone mean you give players a longer crack of the whip in the future? Criticism is of course part and parcel, but are "not good enough" and "get rid" views a little bit daft now?
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well pinchy is always not right
 
Always said Paul Coutts was a player from the moment he first signed. He needed a different style of play and a better manager to bring this out.

I would also like to say a massive thanks to Nigel Clough for signing Coutts and Freeman (& maybe Brayford). In addition to this, i'd like to thank Nigel Adkins for Billy Sharp, na na na na nananaaaa We've got Billy Sharp!
 
I feel I have been 'right' about pretty much everything this season :cool:
 
I thought Jake Wright would be a poor signing. Delighted to be wrong. I also had my doubts about James "Headers" Hanson. Delighted he's proving me wrong so far.
 
This thread just serves to show that the majority of footie fans know sweet FA about the game. Incidentally, I include myself in that, however I've never professed to know more about the virtues of any individual player than the professional managers employed to do that.

I've always allowed managers time. Like most people, I was concerned about Wilder, particularly after the Southend home game, not because of the result as such but the ugly way we played, like we had no idea how to play.

We were probably all guilty of listening to the views of Oxford fans, when they probably know as much as our lot. Wright has shown that you don't need to rely on pace or being physically strong to be a good defender and in fact being able to read the game will allow you to play longer and at higher levels.

I failed to see what Coutts did when he first arrived, though obviously he was still recovering from a terrible injury, but I saw glimpses of a good technical player last season. He's improved his work-rate and the fact that he's playing in a better team has meant that we are seeing what he's capable of.

Actually, I've always thought that Freeman was a decent player. In fact, he played a couple of games on the right side of midfield under Clough and I thought he was better there than at right back. I think he's been unlucky in that he's been in and out of the side which has affected his confidence and consistency.
 
I was right about Adkins.

I was right about Wilder.

I was right about Hammond. Knew he'd be shit and said so on the day we signed him in and amongst the spunk-fest.

I was right about Clarke, didn't want us to sign him.

I was wrong about Coutts and Wright, but I think it's fair to say that's the same for the majority of others.

I was wrong about Duffy. Thought he'd be a poor signing.
 
Houso said:
And well done you for that.

However, and I don't want to dig through your past posts, you've presumably been wrong about someone too? Care to share?
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Look up his posts on Basham, 100% wrong.:p
 
I like to think I normally get it right with players but I was concerned about Wilder after 4/5 games so happy to be proved wrong there.

One player I think I did get wrong was Hanson, I was not massively impressed with his signing but he has so far proved me wrong.

I always thought Coutts would come good, I always said anyone knocking Billy wants to give their head a wobble, I did not want Clarke from the day I heard we might sign him and I always thought Freeman was a good footballer. Freeman got some awful abuse from our fans on Twitter at the beginning of this season and I am glad to see he is proving them all wrong.
 
Revolution said:
I was wrong about Wilder. Thought he'd be the second coming of Mickey Adams. How wrong I was.

I was right about Coutts until this season. I didn't think he had it in him.

I do not recall having an opinion on Wright.

I've always thought Freeman was better than some give him credit for but I did not think he had this level of performance in him.

On the other hand, I was right about Sharp and Clark and George Long.
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Am looking forward to the day when you admit that you were wrong about Chansiri! ;)
 



Ricky said:
That's a bit harsh on fans generally. People in the game can't predict what's going to happen either.
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Difference is that some fans have a quick knee jerk reaction. I find watching a game as a neutral, when not supporting either team it is easier to form balanced opinions. It is hard to be unbiased when talking about the Blades, positive and negative, it seems all highs or lows with us.

Just to add, six seasons in League 1 have made most of us very sceptical.
 
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