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...will shake the division. Not so much the defeat, no way were we going to go undefeated from now to the end of the season, but to be comprehensively smashed like like that is the worry.

It may well be an off day but if we had gone down 2-1 or 1-0 it would have had little impact on the rest of the season, may well have been dismissed as one of those things like Newcastle losing 1-0 at Blackburn, but that scoreline will give enormous encouragement to everyone we play in the next few weeks, whether they be top of the table or bottom of the table sides, any aura of invincibility or a triumphant inevitable march to the tittle has just been smashed to smithereens.

If there is any bright side to today it may convince the board that we are not assured of promotion and Wilder needs further backing to strengthen the squad in the next fortnight.
 



...will shake the division. Not so much the defeat, no way were we going to go undefeated from now to the end of the season, but to be comprehensively smashed like like that is the worry.

It may well be an off day but if we had gone down 2-1 or 1-0 it would have had little impact on the rest of the season, may well have been dismissed as one of those things like Newcastle losing 1-0 at Blackburn, but that scoreline will give enormous encouragement to everyone we play in the next few weeks, whether they be top of the table or bottom of the table sides, any aura of invincibility or a triumphant inevitable march to the tittle has just been smashed to smithereens.

If there is any bright side to today it may convince the board that we are not assured of promotion and Wilder needs further backing to strengthen the squad in the next fortnight.
It's not a worry it's a bad day
 
...will shake the division. Not so much the defeat, no way were we going to go undefeated from now to the end of the season, but to be comprehensively smashed like like that is the worry.

It may well be an off day but if we had gone down 2-1 or 1-0 it would have had little impact on the rest of the season, may well have been dismissed as one of those things like Newcastle losing 1-0 at Blackburn, but that scoreline will give enormous encouragement to everyone we play in the next few weeks, whether they be top of the table or bottom of the table sides, any aura of invincibility or a triumphant inevitable march to the tittle has just been smashed to smithereens.

If there is any bright side to today it may convince the board that we are not assured of promotion and Wilder needs further backing to strengthen the squad in the next fortnight.

A bright side is it may convince the players it's not a shoe in and up their game next week. But I get the general point everyone will look at the scoreline and think they are vulnerable.
 
If it stops them parking the bus then that's not such a bad thing. I'd back us to beat most teams in this league in open games. Promotion winning sides tendvto bounce back quickly from these sorts of results
 
its 2 losses in our last 23 that no matter the scoreline today is great form, we were good in the first half but walsall knew what we were doing for entire second half and countered us at everything, onwards and upwards to next week back on home turf
 



That result will shake the world. I'm in the States and it's already all over the news here. They've even cancelled the NFL play offs later in recognition of the earth shattering result. Trump 's holding a joint press conference with Putin later in a plea for calm etc. etc......

FFS, it's a setback, get a grip.
 
Hardly. We have lost to Walsall three times this season. The issue isn't today's result it is why have we lost three times to them and what is it they do (or did) that we can't respond to. Wilder and Knill culpable there in my opinion.

Think you can discount the checkatrade trophy match as it was nowhere near our normal team and the whole thing was a non-match. At home they were lucky to win it.
 
...will shake the division. Not so much the defeat, no way were we going to go undefeated from now to the end of the season, but to be comprehensively smashed like like that is the worry.

It may well be an off day but if we had gone down 2-1 or 1-0 it would have had little impact on the rest of the season, may well have been dismissed as one of those things like Newcastle losing 1-0 at Blackburn, but that scoreline will give enormous encouragement to everyone we play in the next few weeks, whether they be top of the table or bottom of the table sides, any aura of invincibility or a triumphant inevitable march to the tittle has just been smashed to smithereens.

If there is any bright side to today it may convince the board that we are not assured of promotion and Wilder needs further backing to strengthen the squad in the next fortnight.

1970-1. Lost 3-0 at Swindon. Promoted in second place.

1981-2. Lost 5-1 at Colchester. We won the division.

1989-90. Lost 4-0 at Leeds, 3-0 at Oxford and 5-0 at West Ham. Promoted in second place.

2005-6. Lost 4-1 at home to Watford. Promoted in second place.
 
I hope every team we play from now on plays like they think they can smash us by 3 goals.
 
I hope every team we play from now on plays like they think they can smash us by 3 goals.

I don't. I'd rather every team played like Oldham and we win every game with late goals without looking like conceding
 
Bury beat Peterborough today 5-1, and were 4-0 up at half time. That would have bust a few coupons. It happens.

My main concern is whether this will effect Moore's confidence. I suspect it won't but we really can't afford another keeper's confidence being shot. A nice steady 2-0 win next week please
 
Not a good result but its 1 game.

Lets not get to upset and get straight back into training tomorrow and sort through the issues.
 
A bad result today. Of course it is but lessons will have been learned out there at Walsall and I'm 100% certain Chris Wilder will endeavour to make sure it doesn't happen again.

2 defeats in 22 games isn't down to luck or flukes. We've just encountered a bad day at the office and if anything, it's probably a good kick up the arse.

Now onwards and upwards please.
 
Not entirely surprised to be honest. We regularly look suspect in defence despite opposition not getting too many chances. We don't make advantage of all our possession in turning it into goals. They knew how to respond to our attacking wingbacks and it paid off. Our deficiencies bit us on the arse today, perfect storm maybe?
Need a lot more to convince me many other sides will be able to turn us over like that.
 
You always get these results in good seasons.

Every promotion season I remember we've had a few unexpected or heavy defeats.
 



We've been defensively iffy all season, and to some extent it's a reflection of how attacking our team is. We've no designated deep midfielder, our centre halves are partly picked on ability on the ball, and the wingbacks have licence to bomb forward. As a result of all that you risk conceding, and we do just that pretty regularly, but more than compensated for by us rattling them in.

We need to improve in certain areas, but let's not forget that it's this philosophy that got us this far, with all its associated risks.
 

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