Clarke or Done!?

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When Clarke came on as sub he was a completely different person. He was fighting for his place, and now he got a place in the past few games, it seems like he's given up again
 



I think the problem is, Billy wants to be the main man in the box and have someone run round for him. Done realised this and with Billy being captain knew that the best way to get into the side was to run around for Billy. Done likes running around anyway so was probably fairly content to do so, and has enough experience to run into the right areas.

Clarke seems to also want to be the main man in the box and would like someone to run around for him.

Lavery is still learning and hasn't had a regular partner who he can build an understanding with.

And Chapman's fucked.

I think CW has to sit down with Clarke and Billy and tell them either start trying to work together or I'll drop one or both of you. It's a team game so start playing like one. But he may well have done that. Maybe benching Billy against Bolton was his way of saying 'you're not untouchable'.
 
I think he should sit down with Clarke and tell him he's going to Matlock town on loan.
 
BushBlade said:
I think the problem is, Billy wants to be the main man in the box and have someone run round for him. Done realised this and with Billy being captain knew that the best way to get into the side was to run around for Billy. Done likes running around anyway so was probably fairly content to do so, and has enough experience to run into the right areas.

Clarke seems to also want to be the main man in the box and would like someone to run around for him.

Lavery is still learning and hasn't had a regular partner who he can build an understanding with.

And Chapman's fucked.

I think CW has to sit down with Clarke and Billy and tell them either start trying to work together or I'll drop one or both of you. It's a team game so start playing like one. But he may well have done that. Maybe benching Billy against Bolton was his way of saying 'you're not untouchable'.
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BushBlade, that is a spot on analysis and difficult to argue with except for the last sentence. Billy will get 25 goals this season whereas the other three won't get 25 between them. This is irrespective of who plays or who doesn't and however they team up tactically. Its got to be Billy plus AN Other and as for giving Billy any ultimatum, I'm afraid the situation is that we need Billy more than Billy needs us at the moment.
 
snootyfenooty said:
BushBlade, that is a spot on analysis and difficult to argue with except for the last sentence. Billy will get 25 goals this season whereas the other three won't get 25 between them. This is irrespective of who plays or who doesn't and however they team up tactically. Its got to be Billy plus AN Other and as for giving Billy any ultimatum, I'm afraid the situation is that we need Billy more than Billy needs us at the moment.
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Not if he's getting too big for his boots we don't. But the truth is, whilst I used to know someone related to Bill, I have no inside information on this so I don't know if he's a problem or not, in that respect. I can only go on what I see on the pitch.
Given Billy's commitment to the club and the fact he's still a good striker I suspect it will be Clarke who ends up the loser. But as Captain, I'd expect him to make an effort to form a partnership with whoever we play next to him. If I was CW I'd be disappointed if I thought he wasn't.

Maybe there's another option; play Billy up front on his own and have an additional attacking midfielder playing behind him. He played on his own for Donny Rovers and did well. Although we probably have to find a replacement for Chapman for that to work.
 
bladesmanluke said:
How can anyone judge Lavery on one game and a couple of 5 minute cameos?
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The problem or dilemma .

Lavery to me is a attacking goal scoring midfielder.

Kid from Boro injured.

Billy main man .

Leon Clarke another main man but great as impact player off the bench . He may have been given mixed messages . Also a journey man with no real legence or commitment IMO.

Leaves Done who has limited football brain , intelligence and a good league 1 player. Bit like a Jack Russell .

This to me leaves the only option of Billy and Done upfront until JTW, when I can see Done and Clarke being shipped out , with 2no ready replacements with the deal already done. We may be surprised with the money spent and McCabe putting his hand in his pocket.

Having 4 out of 5 games at home , could be more of a hinderence than help , with style of play , tactics , goal scoring etc .

I expect we will create umpteen chances / opportunities but struggle to turn them into goals .

Hope I am way off piste .

UTB
 
Anybody sense a Mcnulty return??
 
I have to say, I do think Tufty will start with Leon.

In Tufty I trust. For now !!!

UTB
 
BushBlade said:
He may have. Depending on how strongly the promise was made, who it was made by and what witnesses or other supporting evidence there is.

Whether he'll win, and if he does, how much he'll get would be for the court to decide.

He needs to think very carefully about this though. I suspect whatever promises were made, they were general, rather than specific so even if he proved the case he might not get much in compensation and may not get costs awarded.

I'd advise him to forget this shit and concentrate solely on what's left of his career and to make sure he maximises it. Not fuck about with vexatious legal claims.

But I'm not a solicitor. Others may have a better informed take on this.
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Incredibly unlikely to be upheld as an oral contract, cannot see that this would be his claim. There would be no certainty on the terms of the deal, and you'd never prove the intention to create legal relations. You could also say that this is 'an agreement to agree', which are unenforceable.

Add to that the public policy grounds of setting a precedent that convicts can enforce loose assurances of work on their release and I think Ched's lawyers will be smart enough to avoid this.

Only claim I can think of is if he feels the club obstructed or influenced his approach to the initial trial and therefore somehow contributed to his wrongful conviction. Still seems unlikely, so may just be bullshit?
 
Teddy said:
Incredibly unlikely to be upheld as an oral contract, cannot see that this would be his claim. There would be no certainty on the terms of the deal, and you'd never prove the intention to create legal relations. You could also say that this is 'an agreement to agree', which are unenforceable.

Add to that the public policy grounds of setting a precedent that convicts can enforce loose assurances of work on their release and I think Ched's lawyers will be smart enough to avoid this.

Only claim I can think of is if he feels the club obstructed or influenced his approach to the initial trial and therefore somehow contributed to his wrongful conviction. Still seems unlikely, so may just be bullshit?
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I agree, and the point you make is essentially the same point as I do in my first paragraph. I think it's highly unlikely there is sufficient evidence to support a claim that an oral contract has been made but as I haven't seen the 'evidence' I can't say that with total certainty.

With regard to your final paragraph, I did hear some rumours that may be relevant but I won't repeat them on here as I suspect they were bullshit.
 
Lmaobob said:
When Clarke came on as sub he was a completely different person. He was fighting for his place, and now he got a place in the past few games, it seems like he's given up again
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I gave him the benefit of the doubt and when he's feels like he can be dangerous especially at this level but he has an attitude problem and he'll do as little as possible in order to pull a wage.
Nobody not even Wilder will change him.
 



I'm not sure what to think, he and Done sempt to gel in pre-season, just worth looking at the options available
He was told he had a future at the lane only to be sent out again? I know he's not the best, but it can't be said he's the worst option at present eather???
 
Runaround Done - 33 goals in his 11 year career and well on target to maintain his impressive average. Ball control mediocre. Can't go past a defender. So-called pace a complete myth. Low football I.Q. Just the job.

Gerrimin. Gerriminnah.

As ever, the combined weight of S2 wisdom favours the bloke who tries hard but can't play. 'Twas ever thus.

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