Neil Bishop - Serial Cheat

[spongebobblade]

I didn't think either were a foul ,no fan of Deadmans but players make it so difficult for them ,and with all the new rules virtually outlawing tackling it is making the game tedious and dull. Nothing like a good tackle to liven a game up and as Johann Cruyff or George best said ,I didn't become a great player by not getting tackled

Totally agree regards tackling Sitters. Back in the day if a player rolled around you knew he was hurt. How many times did we see a player hobble about for the rest of the match, unlike the pansies of today

 

[BerksBlade]

I have seen players go down when they are through on goal, had they stayed on their feet they would have scored.
Although they just go down to get a penalty and to get a player sent off, that happens all the time when I watch Spanish football. Very annoying to watch especially when the build up play has been good to watch and then you see a player go down lack a sack of shit.

Increasingly common in the modern game (sadly).
Example: Gareth Bale yesterday against Georgia - a defender half-heartedly sticks out a leg as Bale goes past him. Pretty sure Bale could have avoided it, but he chose to stick his own leg out to make sure of contact and went over for the free-kick.

 

[Caveblade]

For the ones that didn't see it the day after the Scunny match.

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and that's the bloke who makes the decision - quite well placed really.

Only slightly late by Basham, but late it was. He was also late when Michael Brown over reacted at PV a while back, but once again Bash was later of the 2 tacklers as he was v Scunny.

It left the ref with no option....or perhaps the camera lies.........

UTB

I haven't seen the Skysports shot, and yes it is a late tackle. The problem with freeze frames is that the game does not happen in single frame shots, it happens in real time. Late tackles and contact are an inherent part of football and a freeze frame isolates the viewer from the context and intent of the challenge. Bashams might have been mistimed but that does not automatically make it a red and I still stand by the original theme of the post which was around Bishop's very deliberate reaction which is designed to sway the ref towards red.

 

[Robby Blade]

In boxing if you are down for ten seconds you are not allowed to train, never mind box for thirty days. Might be out a bit about the thirty days, but you get the jist. Any footballer who goes down with "a blow to the head"for more than ten seconds should have to do the same.

Football as a sport is fucked,ruined by television companies paying mega bucks. I couldn't give a shiny shit who's playing who anymore in the premier league, Except for when United get back up there of course.

 

[Sneinton Blade 1952]

In the good old days footballers were real men and never rolled around like pancies: Alan Hodgkinson, Cec Coldwell, Graham Shaw, Brian Richardson, Joe Shaw, Gerry Summers, Billy Hodgson, Keith Kettleborough, Doc Pace, Ronnie Simpson and Len Allchurch - now that was a team of hegemonic masculinity! Bring it back!! (Mind you, Tony Wagstaff was a bit of a softy).

 

[Bladesway]

It's very annoying, much like when pundits justify penalty decisions by saying "there was contact" which has never been the rule.

Yes it is, if you make contact with the man before the ball it is a foul. Been a law whenever I played, doesn't mean you roll around like a shot twat though.

 

[Bladesway]

A lot of the masculinity, decency, honesty of the game went down the shitter a long, long time ago. Didn't it? There's no time for staying on your feet under a challenge when you could go down, win a penalty, which might win you a game, which might be the difference between achieving promotion, which leads to more time on telly in a higher division, and more money, so better players, with further promotions, happier owners and more time on the telly, and round and round we go...

It is quite easy to see why football gets such stick as a pansies' game from rugby fans, and fans of other sports such as Ice Hockey, my other love. I love the Blades but at times, I cringe at football as a whole. Why would you stay on your feet and be honest, if no fecker else is and you don't stand to gain from it? Pretty crap, really.

Yeah that Jack Lester was a proper mans man wasn't he. Modern football is shit.

 

[PeteBlade]

Yes it is, if you make contact with the man before the ball it is a foul. Been a law whenever I played, doesn't mean you roll around like a shot twat though.

Making contact with an opponent doesn't automatically mean you've committed a foul, no.

 

[Bladesway]

Making contact with an opponent doesn't automatically mean you've committed a foul, no.

Just randomly picking shit up from various sites where the basic rules of the game are laid out.

"The side tackles results in a foul if the player comes into contact with the other player before touching the ball. The referee can choose to call a foul even if the tackler touches the ball first if he is judged to have done it dangerously. It is considered dangerous play if a player goes for the ball and uses studs of the cleat to lead his tackle. Such dangerous play is punished by an indirect free kick."

" A foul is called if a player: makes a tackle but hits the player before the ball"

It's not conclusive evidence but I would suggest it is enough. Although you are technically correct, you can theoretically make contact (shoulder to shoulder for instance) with an opponent without first touching the ball. When I played it was pretty basic that if you made contact with the man before the ball you were going to get a foul given against you. Whenever refs came in before a game they generally used that as a rule so it was considered given.