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Ricky said:
Very pleasing to come from behind.....
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Absolutely agree, but im not sure Mrs Weasel shares your sentiments too much these days. I might tell her that Blades are 'come from behind specialists' and see if she asks me to prove it. If she expects me to get the fixture list out she will be in for a surprise.
 



JordoBlade said:
Why is it whenever we win the majority of opposing fans say we're bang average? Suppose it has nothing to do with being better in possession and so on............
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Agree. Think some Oxford fan said the same. "An average Sheff Utd side". Like they've been monitoring us for years or something. I haven't got a fucking clue whether that was a good, bad or average Gillingham/Oxford side and I don't give a fuck either way. Utter fucking gibberish from football fans stating an opinion completely devoid of any substance whatsoever.
 
Beat Jedi said:
Agree. Think some Oxford fan said the same. "An average Sheff Utd side". Like they've been monitoring us for years or something. I haven't got a fucking clue whether that was a good, bad or average Gillingham/Oxford side and I don't give a fuck either way. Utter fucking gibberish from football fans stating an opinion completely devoid of any substance whatsoever.
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You can measure the level of gashness of any opposition team against your own. It`s not rocket science.
We were average today by virtue of slow,ponderous build up,poor final ball and crap finishing.
Average was absolutely fair.
 
Roygbiv said:
A fine display Ricky. Fantastic debut. Might do a "Blades fans view on Ricky" when I get back
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yeah obviously I'm glad to be able to scrape together the comments but at the end of the day it's all about the three points, onto the next one etc


They don't seem to have any busy forum, just three or four that aren't very busy at all, so it was quite slim pickings. If football club size was judged by forum activity then we'd be 10 times massiver than them than we already are.

One thing that might surprise some is the negative view of their manager, it just proves something I said the other day, you can very rarely make accurate assessments of other clubs' managers. Everyone would assume Edinburgh would be popular there.
 
TomJonesBlade said:
That's a dangerous road to go down. If posters were to start 'reviewing' each other it might well turn to fisticuffs in car parks. Possibly near an Argos.
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It could even result in Tony Soprano offering out the whole forum in The Cricks.
He has previous you know!:eek:
 
JordoBlade said:
Why is it whenever we win the majority of opposing fans say we're bang average? Suppose it has nothing to do with being better in possession and so on............
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It may be mean to say this but 2nd and 3rd positions in the 'First' division are the most BANG average, I think that makes Bradford and Fleetwood the averagest - we are distinctly under average.

But the only reason that opposition supporters call us average, is that they are realistic, they've seen good teams, we all have on TV if not in person, the gulf in standards is immediately apparent.

Like I say, sorry if I was too mean.
 
TomJonesBlade said:
That's a dangerous road to go down. If posters were to start 'reviewing' each other it might well turn to fisticuffs in car parks. Possibly near an Argos.
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I onlt fight near a decent Butchers, makes it easier to get a Steak for my eye when I get filled in ;)
 
Ricky said:
yeah obviously I'm glad to be able to scrape together the comments but at the end of the day it's all about the three points, onto the next one etc


They don't seem to have any busy forum, just three or four that aren't very busy at all, so it was quite slim pickings. If football club size was judged by forum activity then we'd be 10 times massiver than them than we already are.

One thing that might surprise some is the negative view of their manager, it just proves something I said the other day, you can very rarely make accurate assessments of other clubs' managers. Everyone would assume Edinburgh would be popular there.
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They're deluded. Edinburgh's done a great job there and is a victim of his own success by raising their expectations.
They had a little bit of 'success' when they made good use of the money they charged Brighton for playing at Priestfield but apart from that they're a traditional lower league side.
 
if my previous approach were too mean, then the average number of points for a team now is 7.

we have got 7, we are in the most 'average' league so Chessie, Oxford, Shrewsbury and Sheffield United, are the most bang average teams there are.
 
vorpal blade said:
if my previous approach were too mean, then the average number of points for a team now is 7.

we have got 7, we are in the most 'average' league so Chessie, Oxford, Shrewsbury and Sheffield United, are the most bang average teams there are.
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We're joint top in the form table for the past 2 games though :)
 



BushBlade said:
They're deluded. Edinburgh's done a great job there and is a victim of his own success by raising their expectations.
They had a little bit of 'success' when they made good use of the money they charged Brighton for playing at Priestfield but apart from that they're a traditional lower league side.
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He's surely done a decent job there overall, but there's always another side to it that as a fan of another club you can't be too quick to dismiss.

You'd get outsiders telling us that Clough did a great job for example, which would do my fucking head in.
 
Ricky said:
There were a few positive comments about Oshilaja, number 6 at centre half, that confirmed to me what I thought at the game. He was their best player and to me looks like one to keep an eye on. Very quick, strong, decent leap, better on the ball than most athletic L1 CBs, got the better of our strikers one on one and swept up a lot of our attacks.
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Yeah he looks a real athlete. Thought the same last season. The only thing is he seems to have the odd mistake in him (Like when he let Billy get away to shoot at the start of the second half).


Reminds me of Claude Davis. Big, strong, quick etc. but a little error prone. Good by the standards of this division though.
 
Ricky said:
I thought we played well throughout the game and the system worked. After some worrying moments in the first half the centre halves dealt with everything. Duffy and Coutts used the ball well, Duffy in particular set up a lot of attacks with his intelligent play and passes. We were undoubtedly the better team in both halves. I think 3-5-2 might be the way to go away from home if Freeman can replicate his performance today - he will have harder games.

It looked like it was going to be yet another game where we miss chances, go 1-0 down (to a wondergoal) and lose any chance of winning it. It wound me up - we look decent but keep losing, I thought. I would've been a bit speechless if we lost that. Very pleasing to come from behind and win for the second game in a row - that's got to mean something - we'd have never done that last season.

Very important and much needed win. Great way to do it too, we don't often do that. It's been a long time since I've celebrated at an away match like that. Hopefully it won't be this season's Peterborough, hopefully it's more of a sign of things to come.
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We seem to be starting to show a bit more grit and steel in terms of coming from behind. It’s a bit concerning though that having played 6 league games, we’ve gone behind in every single one. Suggests our concentration in the first half of games is not what it should be.


Gifting that early 1 on 1 to McDonald was another sign of this.



Based solely on 2nd halves, we’d now be on 11 points sat 4th in the table.


If we can cut out those sloppy errors we might be able to mount a challenge.
 
Ricky said:
yeah obviously I'm glad to be able to scrape together the comments but at the end of the day it's all about the three points, onto the next one etc


They don't seem to have any busy forum, just three or four that aren't very busy at all, so it was quite slim pickings. If football club size was judged by forum activity then we'd be 10 times massiver than them than we already are.

One thing that might surprise some is the negative view of their manager, it just proves something I said the other day, you can very rarely make accurate assessments of other clubs' managers. Everyone would assume Edinburgh would be popular there.
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If I had gone away when we played Fleetwood youd have had a problem. Think they have one forum with about 7 posts a year on it
 
Ricky said:
He's surely done a decent job there overall, but there's always another side to it that as a fan of another club you can't be too quick to dismiss.

You'd get outsiders telling us that Clough did a great job for example, which would do my fucking head in.
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It might do your head in but that doesn't mean they're wrong. It was a rash and foolish decision to sack Clough and being condemned to further seasons has proven that.
Being a supporter means one tends to get too caught up with the minutiae, fretting over a substitution that didn't work, a poor signing or a tactical error that cost a game whilst losing sight of the big picture.

The bottom line is that a top half finish will always be a good season for the Gills unless they get serious investment. The ones who can't see that have got their heads up their arses micro-analysing the performance of someone who's job they've never done. Yes, everyone's entitled to an opinion but I wouldn't ask a plumber for financial advice or ask a financial advisor to mend my hot tap. I've got an opinion on football, many in fact, but ultimately I know that in reality, I know a little bit more than fuck all. Which is about as much as one can know without actually being a professional manager.
I recall a new colleague showing quite a lot of disdain at the way I did my job because she thought she knew it all. After six months she was asking me how to do stuff, when she realised the number of constraints and external factors that caused me to do things how I did. I can't imagine it being much different in football management or any other job that requires a level of skill and competence and judgement calls to be made under pressure.
 
BushBlade said:
It might do your head in but that doesn't mean they're wrong. It was a rash and foolish decision to sack Clough and being condemned to further seasons has proven that.
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Adkins' unimaginable incompetence doesn't mean it was the wrong decision to sack Clough. It's only hindsight. Clough's decisions actually contributed heavily to condemning us to more years in this division.

Being a supporter exposes you more to a manager's weaknesses. When fans speak about those weaknesses they'll usually be right. Fans are also in a far better position to judge their own players and what they should be capable of. But they can also overlook a manager's strengths to an extent too.
 
Imo both Clough (blew a very healthy budget on a load of total crap i.e. Higdon, McEver, J Wallace, Brayford (not a bad player but ridiculously overpriced), whilst Adkins was simply awful and blew a fortune on wages on his love children like Hammond and Woolford. Just cos clough was the slightly better if two evils doesnt make him a good manager. They were both piss poor imo. CW is different gravy to those buffoons and time will prove this to be right. We were deep in the shite as a club, club dying on its arse, and it needed a total transformation. Luckily CW became available when we were on the ropes and his tenure reminds me so much of when Harry Bassett first took over. The good times will cone again with CW...whereas we would have been playing the dog n duck if the previous incompetents had stuck around. Genuinely think we have had one very lucky escape from the brink when we got CW in. Wildthings the man and you can take that fact to the bank my friend.
 
BushBlade said:
They're deluded. Edinburgh's done a great job there and is a victim of his own success by raising their expectations.
They had a little bit of 'success' when they made good use of the money they charged Brighton for playing at Priestfield but apart from that they're a traditional lower league side.
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Edinburgh has always struck me as someone who knows what he's doing. Getting Newport in the league was a miracle given their resources.

There are some similarities between his and Wilder's cvs, actually.
 
Revolution said:
Edinburgh has always struck me as someone who knows what he's doing. Getting Newport in the league was a miracle given their resources.

There are some similarities between his and Wilder's cvs, actually.
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Agree, thought that yesterday whilst watching. Two former top level players who've dropped down to non-league to learn management and have made a success of it.
 
Ricky said:
Adkins' unimaginable incompetence doesn't mean it was the wrong decision to sack Clough. It's only hindsight. Clough's decisions actually contributed heavily to condemning us to more years in this division.

Being a supporter exposes you more to a manager's weaknesses. When fans speak about those weaknesses they'll usually be right. Fans are also in a far better position to judge their own players and what they should be capable of. But they can also overlook a manager's strengths to an extent too.
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Supporters always get a bit neurotic about their own club, especially clubs like ours where it wouldn't be a shock if we were two divisions higher. And we're all guilty of it, myself included.
 



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