Shit stirring sky at it again..

[BushBlade]

And people laughed at the Luddites.

 

[SUFC Guy]

Sky's plan could fail if CE ends up back in the slammer come October time

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Sky's plan could fail if CE ends up back in the slammer come October time

He can't go back in the slammer. He's already served his sentence.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Yeah well Sky will continue to ruin football as long as people fucking subscribe to it.

Football fans have the power to change a lot of bad things in the game but unfortunately it's the British mentality to grumble but yet do fuck-all.

Agree young Durden, the boycott is an alien concept to the British mindset. A pity, as it's impact on a business bottom-line is usually to concentrate the powers that be to listen to those 'little' people who they usually regard as fodder only worthy to provide healthy pay packets and perks that keep them and the punters at arms-length.

 

[BushBlade]

Agree young Durden, the boycott is an alien concept to the British mindset. A pity, as it's impact on a business bottom-line is usually to concentrate the powers that be to listen to those 'little' people who they usually regard as fodder only worthy to provide healthy pay packets and perks that keep them and the punters at arms-length.

Not really true. It's just that not everyone gives a shit. The eighties were all about boycotts for a lot of people who did give a shit, South Africa for example, Nescafé is another.

But asking people to boycott football is like asking a heroin addict to boycott smack.

I get a little pissed of when people say the British are apathetic. We're not. We are though, a little self centred. Something that has been played on by the right wingers since the Thatcher days and the miners' strike, arguably even before that.
To call us apathetic ignores the suffragette movement, the trade union movement, those who volunteered en masse for WW1, those who went to fight in the Spanish civil war and those people who are prepared to risk their life every day for the benefit of others; the armed forces, the emergency services and the like.

 

[Dec]

What's really baffling and I hope someone could give me an answer, please.

Why the fuck are you still subscribing to Sky and Murdoch?

Thanks.

To watch football.

I like watching football.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Not really true. It's just that not everyone gives a shit. The eighties were all about boycotts for a lot of people who did give a shit, South Africa for example, Nescafé is another.

But asking people to boycott football is like asking a heroin addict to boycott smack.

I get a little pissed of when people say the British are apathetic. We're not. We are though, a little self centred. Something that has been played on by the right wingers since the Thatcher days and the miners' strike, arguably even before that.
To call us apathetic ignores the suffragette movement, the trade union movement, those who volunteered en masse for WW1, those who went to fight in the Spanish civil war and those people who are prepared to risk their life every day for the benefit of others; the armed forces, the emergency services and the like.

You make reasonable points BB, but I think you're confusing words and their meaning. Could you point out where I referred to anyone as apathetic? Yes, there have been sterling points in our history where we've stood up to be counted, moments I'm proud of. But I was making a general observation, and the context was the current few decades rather than how we Brits have responded to specific moments of conscience calling. I had a relative who fought against Franco, my dad fought the Nazi's, but it doesn't mean I forget their contributions if I make a generalised assessment of how we respond now. Yes, there are groups who act defiantly against causes that deserve to be resisted, but just as you make a point to identify causes that have brought resistance to the fore, equally where are those groups en masse who fight against the likes of Primark or The Gap who use horrendously underpaid overseas labour to produce their 'affordable' clothes?

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

To watch football.

I like watching football.

How much is it now, a monthly subscription charge?
Is there a package where you could just choose your football and pay accordingly?
This goes out to everyone who still subscribes.

How many on here watch more live football at home than they do in a pub/club/bar?

Genuinely curious about who watches what and where.

Would anyone buy a ST if all SUFC's home games were broadcast live?

 

[SUFC Guy]

He can't go back in the slammer. He's already served his sentence.

Damn! Not just for 1 game?

 

[BushBlade]

You make reasonable points BB, but I think you're confusing words and their meaning. Could you point out where I referred to anyone as apathetic? Yes, there have been sterling points in our history where we've stood up to be counted, moments I'm proud of. But I was making a general observation, and the context was the current few decades rather than how we Brits have responded to specific moments of conscience calling. I had a relative who fought against Franco, my dad fought the Nazi's, but it doesn't mean I forget their contributions if I make a generalised assessment of how we respond now. Yes, there are groups who act defiantly against causes that deserve to be resisted, but just as you make a point to identify causes that have brought resistance to the fore, equally where are those groups en masse who fight against the likes of Primark or The Gap who use horrendously underpaid overseas labour to produce their 'affordable' clothes?

Confusing words with their meaning? I understanding the meaning of condescending and patronising. You were replying to Tyler and agreeing with his sentiments about British apathy. I should have multi-quoted to avoid confusion.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Confusing words with their meaning? I understanding the meaning of condescending and patronising. You were replying to Tyler and agreeing with his sentiments about British apathy. I should have multi-quoted to avoid confusion.

If your implication is that I'm being patronising and condescending then you'll need to identify the particular comments that make this accusation of yours clear.

There's a fine line between Tyler's comments and what I happened to agree with. If you re-read my post in response to yours I've made that clear. No ambiguity, just my thoughts on how we sometimes allow big business, or government duplicity, to wash over us while we sit back and do next to nothing.

 

[Bladesway]

But asking people to boycott football is like asking a heroin addict to boycott smack.

I'm just pleased people like you keep your perspective.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

I can give up the football, but I ca....

Especially at Cat A prices a la BWFC.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Fuck Sky
Fuck Chesterfield