Money and 'getting it'

[raul]

The Holy Trinity of Mammon. Canary Wharf, The City Of London, Bescot Stadium, just off the M6.

 

[Barry Blunt]

The Holy Trinity of Mammon. Canary Wharf, The City Of London, Bescot Stadium, just off the M6.

The awfully run, loss making enterprise of Brammall Lane.

Do you think you'll do a Blackpool, eventually?

 

[Lane Ender]

The awfully run, loss making enterprise of Brammall Lane.

Do you think you'll do a Blackpool, eventually?

Mr Blunts of this world who follow nondescript clubs would like to think so.

 

[BushBlade]

The point is we never spend the money we recieve it goes into the black hole and so selling che would weaken the squad how much of the murphy money did we spend on players

We do spend the money. We spend it on covering the reckless spending we do every couple of years thinking it will get us promoted and then realise we can't afford it when we don't get promoted.
Boom and bust.
If we ran at around break even and the owners didn't have to keep covering the losses, then any money we get could go on improving the team. At the moment, one good sale a season just stops us having to sell anyone else.

 

[BushBlade]

The awfully run, loss making enterprise of Brammall Lane.

Do you think you'll do a Blackpool, eventually?

We were this cocky under Warnock and it's only after he'd gone that we realised how much of our success was down to him.
Maybe you'll find the same now Smith's gone.

 

[Pinchy]

That wasn't your original point. In any case, we (Walsall) make a profit each season, even before our recent years sales.

It's about not paying ridiculous wages, and having a good commercial setup. Any business in any industry can make a profit if run correctly.

Utter nonsense. Football has always relied upon rich benefactors (who quickly become less rich than they were) to bridge the gap between income and expenditure. In modern times, there is a huge black hole known as the players wage packet.

 

[Pinchy]

We were this cocky under Warnock and it's only after he'd gone that we realised how much of our success was down to him.
Maybe you'll find the same now Smith's gone.

The pity is we didn't realise how hopelessly out of his depth he would be at the top level, as he has proved conclusively on many occasions. He was sacked a year too late.

 

[BushBlade]

The pity is we didn't realise how hopelessly out of his depth he would be at the top level, as he has proved conclusively on many occasions. He was sacked a year too late.

Or possibly a year too early. The accepted wisdom at the time was that it was foolish to sack a manager who'd just won promotion. Since then, that has changed due to the successful disposals of Di Matteo, Hughton and Adkins.

But my point is that he had us at the top end of the championship for several years and we were under the impression that our owner was running the club well. It's only after he left that KM's weaknesses and poor decision making were exposed. Walsall may find that Smith was the reason why they were punching above their weight and without him may revert to being a lower third division club.

 

[The Crab]

The awfully run, loss making enterprise of Brammall Lane.

Do you think you'll do a Blackpool, eventually?

Only Blackpool will do a Blackpool, they are a unique situation in terms of how things have been run. For example, how many teams do you know that aren't pub sides, struggle to raise a team on the day of the game? How many teams spell "Centre of Excellence" wrong at their training ground (they spelt it excellance!!) There's plenty more I could say, but their Chairman has the knack of suing people and I haven't got a pot to piss in.

There's no doubt that we have been in decline for some time now, but comparing us to Blackpool is to compare Apples with Oranges.

Good luck for the season.

 

[Silent Blade]

The awfully run, loss making enterprise of Brammall Lane.

Where is Brammall Lane? There isn't one in Sheffield!

 

[Bill puntin]

Where is Brammall Lane? There isn't one in Sheffield!

MR blunt wouldn't know how to get in a modern ground like bramall lane he would be looking for a turnstile with a man in it

 

[Maidenhead]

The point is we never spend the money we recieve it goes into the black hole and so selling che would weaken the squad how much of the murphy money did we spend on players

the black hole that is the wage bill.

It has to be paid somehow or we don't have a team at all

 

[BushBlade]

the black hole that is the wage bill.

It has to be paid somehow or we don't have a team at all

Or, our owners could stop writing cheques they don't want to pay. Here's a thought for Princey and King Kev 'if you don't want to pay our losses, don't sign players like Brayford and Coutts'.

 

[Maidenhead]

Or, our owners could stop writing cheques they don't want to pay. Here's a thought for Princey and King Kev 'if you don't want to pay our losses, don't sign players like Brayford and Coutts'.

and have every man and his dog accusing them of having no ambition?

btw managers usually select the players they want, not chairmen

 

[BushBlade]

and have every man and his dog accusing them of having no ambition?

btw managers usually select the players they want, not chairmen

It doesn't matter what every man and his dog thinks. It's a matter of leadership, not bowing to the masses.

Managers buy who they are allowed to buy and it's not unusual for a chairman to say 'sorry, that's not within our budget', a bit like they appear to be doing now, so it can't be that difficult.

 

[judge]

That wasn't your original point. In any case, we (Walsall) make a profit each season, even before our recent years sales.

It's about not paying ridiculous wages, and having a good commercial setup. Any business in any industry can make a profit if run correctly.

Ooh please tell us more about Walsall foot ball club

 

[blade too long]

it's not unusual for a chairman to say 'sorry, that's not within our budget', a bit like they appear to be doing now, .

brought in 7 sold 0

how is that not supporting the manager

 

[BushBlade]

brought in 7 sold 0

how is that not supporting the manager

Has the transfer window closed? Sorry, I didn't realise.

 

[blade too long]

Has the transfer window closed? Sorry, I didn't realise.

cant win
we sell , you say they wont give any money to the boss
we get in players
ah but itll be offset by selling a raw lad we could make a decent profit on
hes then elevated to messi like status
best player we ever had, would score 60 a season if we kept him
but so far
we havent sold anyone
how queer

 

[judge]

cant win
we sell , you say they wont give any money to the boss
we get in players
ah but itll be offset by selling a raw lad we could make a decent profit on
hes then elevated to messi like status
best player we ever had, would score 60 a season if we kept him
but so far
we havent sold anyone
how queer

We shouldn't have to sell anyone to fund 100,000 pound signings

It shouldn't be anything to get all lairy and try and wind fellow blades up about should it ?

 

[Barney]

cant win
we sell , you say they wont give any money to the boss
we get in players
ah but itll be offset by selling a raw lad we could make a decent profit on
hes then elevated to messi like status
best player we ever had, would score 60 a season if we kept him
but so far
we havent sold anyone
how queer

Yes but it's the same with you only the other way.

Sell - Doesn't matter, shit anyway. Good business as he was only ok last season.

Don't sell - Not sold anyone and brought in 7. Kept the raw talent. Well done McCabe etc.

Most people have an opinion on what they think should happen i.e sell or don't sell and stick to it. You keep your options open so you can moan at fans regardless of what happens.

 

[BushBlade]

cant win
we sell , you say they wont give any money to the boss
we get in players
ah but itll be offset by selling a raw lad we could make a decent profit on
hes then elevated to messi like status
best player we ever had, would score 60 a season if we kept him
but so far
we havent sold anyone
how queer

I'm not sure how the tune for that goes.

If we sign the minimum of two players we need, keep Che and DCL then I'll give the board credit. But I won't be ejaculating prematurely.

 

[blade too long]

We shouldn't have to sell anyone to fund 100,000 pound signings

It shouldn't be anything to get all lairy and try and wind fellow blades up about should it ?

im not winding up blades supporters
how is it winding them up to appreciate the effort being made by CW
thought that was the gist of supporting

are you proposing a new sort of support

 

[BushBlade]

We shouldn't have to sell anyone to fund 100,000 pound signings

It shouldn't be anything to get all lairy and try and wind fellow blades up about should it ?

Doesn't wind me up. I want us to be successful too.

 

[blade too long]

Yes but it's the same with you only the other way.

Sell - Doesn't matter, shit anyway. Good business as he was only ok last season.

Don't sell - Not sold anyone and brought in 7. Kept the raw talent. Well done McCabe etc.

So you're going to moan at fans regardless of what happens.

I dont moan at fans
I politely request we support the club
when they obviously are trying hard

if its too fucking hard
well
if you take the hump at the suggetion, thats your choice

but I say support the club
and I seem to get a chorus of fuck off we prefer to whinge
from a dedicated few

we sold macdonald you know thats why im not fully behind CW just now is how it comes across

 

[BushBlade]

im not winding up blades supporters
how is it winding them up to appreciate the effort being made by CW
thought that was the gist of supporting

are you proposing a new sort of support

What has CW got to do with it. I know him and Knill are working very hard but they don't write the cheques.

Your comment to me was about KM backing CW wasn't it?

 

[blade too long]

Yes but it's the same with you only the other way.

Sell - Doesn't matter, shit anyway. Good business as he was only ok last season.

Don't sell - Not sold anyone and brought in 7. Kept the raw talent. Well done McCabe etc.

Most people have an opinion on what they think should happen i.e sell or don't sell and stick to it. You keep your options open so you can moan at fans regardless of what happens.

no its not
its football if your in league one and you stay in it finances dictate some may have to go
we might shock everyone and not sell , either
unlikely
but more because we have to , than want to

 

[BushBlade]

What has CW got to do with it. I know him and Knill are working very hard but they don't write the cheques.

Your comment to me was about KM backing CW wasn't it?

Fuck me. My original point wasn't even saying that KM wasn't backing the manager.

I said he should have not allowed Clough to sign Coutts and Brayford when we clearly couldn't afford it. That it isn't unusual for a chairman to insist a manager works to a budget as KM seems to be doing with CW.

That gets translated into me accusing KM of not backing a manager.

There's a big difference between a manager working to a budget and a manager not being backed. A fucking huge difference.

 

[blade too long]

I'm not sure how the tune for that goes.

If we sign the minimum of two players we need, keep Che and DCL then I'll give the board credit. But I won't be ejaculating prematurely.

players come players go
if the club gets good money for what are prospects , nothing else , thats life
but
how many said the board would be here , brought in 7 already , without selling
a ball park figure
its a very round number Id guess

 

[blade too long]

What has CW got to do with it. I know him and Knill are working very hard but they don't write the cheques.

Your comment to me was about KM backing CW wasn't it?

yes , but this time hes backing a manager who has attainable targets
and
is backing them ,
Its not spending millions and millions , as we aint allowed to and aint got any money trees
but the determination and effort deserves a modicum of praise
its all I asked for