Grimsby Telegraph Mon 25th.

[Sean Thornton]

I reckon you're right

Allen - wasn't he American? - just banged the books out after reading press reports etc. I don't think he invented the term, he just wrote novels about what was happening on the street as reported in the press. I'm sure he had no link to either skinhead or suedehead subculture.

 

[Dnblade]

I remember as a kid seeing much older lads who were mods being very smartly dressed and having a female family member who was a mod. Blazers were part of it and picked up later.
Think some mods became skinheads, others into flower power while others had shorter haircuts and remained smart dressers. I remember suede bomber jackets and skinners being popular along with Timpsons Royal shoes and desert boots. At lot of these lads were into soul still. The northern soul scene borrowed much from the original mods until the stupid baggy trousers fashion which oddly enough happened when the hardcore nighter goers had moved back to straight leg jeans and cords.

Haha,I remember wearing a pair of high waist baggies on one particular night and bumped into a mate who had already started wearing drainpipes..the following night I was out in some newly purchased cord drainpipes...I then wouldn't be seen dead in a pair of baggies..Thinking back to when we used to wear Levi stapress,we wouldn't be seen dead in a pair of drainpipes back then...Between those times,probably 74 I think it was,I remember I had a Crombie with the red silk hanky,Oxford Brogues with the leather souls haha..I had a pair of those white skinners with the Doc Martins and Levi jacket which I like a lot of us,used to wear at Football matches..yeah remember the suede bomber jackets,although I only had a leather one.

 

[Grappler]

I remember as a kid seeing much older lads who were mods being very smartly dressed and having a female family member who was a mod. Blazers were part of it and picked up later.
Think some mods became skinheads, others into flower power while others had shorter haircuts and remained smart dressers. I remember suede bomber jackets and skinners being popular along with Timpsons Royal shoes and desert boots. At lot of these lads were into soul still. The northern soul scene borrowed much from the original mods until the stupid baggy trousers fashion which oddly enough happened when the hardcore nighter goers had moved back to straight leg jeans and cords.

Think the baggy trousers were to make it easier to do all the athletic and acrobatic dancing, splits and stuff. I agree though, the Northern Soul scene grew out of the mods who didn't want to leave that music behind.

 

[Grappler]

Bobby Marchan did the original a couple of years before LR but you'd hardly recognise it as the same record. None of the power of either later version.

I'll find that on youtube and have a listen, cheers

 

[Grappler]

Allen - wasn't he American? - just banged the books out after reading press reports etc. I don't think he invented the term, he just wrote novels about what was happening on the street as reported in the press. I'm sure he had no link to either skinhead or suedehead subculture.

Canadian, real name James Moffat, wrote under different names.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Think the baggy trousers were to make it easier to do all the athletic and acrobatic dancing, splits and stuff. I agree though, the Northern Soul scene grew out of the mods who didn't want to leave that music behind.

Think that's right but for the majority it was a very short lived fashion rather than the general belief that everyone wore them all the time.
Not a good look these days on all those approaching sixty and still wearing them at soul do's. And don't get me started on circle skirts and women's legs that look like corned beef with hairs

 

[bulmer]

Flares were good with a pair of footy socks for getting 4 cans of skol into the school disco 2 cans down each sock dunno how the later yrs managed when drainpipes were all the rage

 

[boo radley]

Was it the 1980 match at Cleethorpes when there was a lot of bother too? A pub was smashed up and I remember skirmishes on the road to the Blundell Park....I also remember watching two old ladies sitting on a bus in packamacs pointing at the fighting and laughing at it all - I've got to say I think they had the right idea.

I might have been in that Pub. Painted in black and white stripes. It was good drinking till one United fan got knocked by a Grimsby fan who decided to use the pinball platform as a soap box to cheerlead.

 

[Lane Ender]

I remember as a kid seeing much older lads who were mods being very smartly dressed and having a female family member who was a mod. Blazers were part of it and picked up later.
Think some mods became skinheads, others into flower power while others had shorter haircuts and remained smart dressers. I remember suede bomber jackets and skinners being popular along with Timpsons Royal shoes and desert boots. At lot of these lads were into soul still. The northern soul scene borrowed much from the original mods until the stupid baggy trousers fashion which oddly enough happened when the hardcore nighter goers had moved back to straight leg jeans and cords.

It was weird how trends came in and went out.
72-74 we started into the northern scene went to Nether Edge Hall,Samathas travelled to Wigan Casino,Torch,Blackpool Mecca etc.
Then it turned round 74-76 Roxy,Bowie,iggy pop then the punk thing,new wave, great days.

 

[vorpal blade]

Aye but if they didn't come in and go out again, they wouldn't be trends would they?

 

[Mad Mick]

I have to say I was, and still am a big fan of Soul. First LP I bought was Motown Chartbusters Volume 1. From then on collected nearly all Motown and then branched out to "Northern Soul". Got some good uns on my Ipad. Never went very far with regards to nightclubs. Heartbeat was just a 10 minute walk away, and Top Tosser not much further. So why spend good beer money on traveling?

 

[SwissBlade]

silver blade i worked in Grimsby last spring summer and I dont think I've been anywhere as rough for a while. Made the mistake of staying in Cleethorpes for the first week at the companies expense... I stayed two nights and then moved myself to a nice little B&B in Healing.

On the few occasions I went out, on a Thursday we saw trouble in almost all the bars we went into, very sad state of affairs.

All that said, were never going to shake the reputation as football fans if we see trouble at club and national level like we have this summer.

In contrast, watched the Tour de France on Saturday and the only trouble we saw was a pissed and irate French bloke mouthing off to the police before the copper called him a chicken... Oh and the bloke chasing Nibali up the Joux plane with no shoes on and a pink inflatable flamingo around his neck, closely followed by his missus

 

[vorpal blade]

I like the idea of finding Grimsby so grim you needed Healing.

 

[sitwell]

Its just a scruffy Hull.

 

[Grey Blade]

silver blade i worked in Grimsby last spring summer and I dont think I've been anywhere as rough for a while. Made the mistake of staying in Cleethorpes for the first week at the companies expense... I stayed two nights and then moved myself to a nice little B&B in Healing.

I spent a couple of hours at the Grimsby Fishing Heritage Centre on Saturday morning prior to walking through the Town Centre to the match. The demise of the fishing industry goes a long way to explaining why the place has become so grim. Personally I saw no trouble, but I suppose had the Blades congregated at the Heritage Centre, the local yobbos would have turned up and that would have been wrecked as well.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

I spent a couple of hours at the Grimsby Fishing Heritage Centre on Saturday morning prior to walking through the Town Centre to the match. The demise of the fishing industry goes a long way to explaining why the place has become so grim. Personally I saw no trouble, but I suppose had the Blades congregated at the Heritage Centre, the local yobbos would have turned up and that would have been wrecked as well.

The demise of the fishing industry is a govement scandal with the knock on effect of jobs , tourism , house prices. . . Same situation in Whitby , albeit the route cause in Whitby could be with Woodward Fan moving there to live .

 

[SwissBlade]

I spent a couple of hours at the Grimsby Fishing Heritage Centre on Saturday morning prior to walking through the Town Centre to the match. The demise of the fishing industry goes a long way to explaining why the place has become so grim. Personally I saw no trouble, but I suppose had the Blades congregated at the Heritage Centre, the local yobbos would have turned up and that would have been wrecked as well.

It's an extremely sad state and its just another town that Britain has forgotten about. The other side is that there is a very industrial area just outside Grimsby and outside that some glorious British countryside.

The area between Grimsby and cleethorpes, coincidentally where the football ground is, is a real dump. One of the digger drivers on our job got caught by his car with his pants down and a crack filled hooked doing her work. When the police arrived they suggested that as the engine was running and he was pissed he would be charged with drink driving... He managed to get them just to charge him with kerb crawling and pay the fine for removing his car...

 

[EddieColquhoun]

I remember a game being called off v Bradford I think , yes I had travelled over for it .
When around 50 or 60 of us went to toytown who were playing the barcodes ,
We were dressed to impress then , I had a two tone Nike suede jacket , one of the guys from brook side ,
used to wear one , cost 70 notes back then , got tore on first outing .

I was also one of the 50 or 60 in frayed, split jeans that day snearing at the "wooly backs"!

 

[Sean Thornton]

I was also one of the 50 or 60 in frayed, split jeans that day snearing at the "wooly backs"!

There's a woolly over there.....

 

[Seanshoreham]

Remember shining my Doc Martens with ox-blood polish, onto Scotts on The Wicker for a No 1 hair cut and then off to The golden city for a few games on the pin balls before the match

After bouncing up and down to "knees up mother brown" my boots were in a right state

Have to say my boots evolved through red to black to silver..

 

[raul]

Can you still remember things? What was it like? What do you miss the most?

Call Rony now on 0114.........

 

[Sean Thornton]

Can you still remember things? What was it like? What do you miss the most?

Call Rony now on 0114.........

Genuine LOL!

 

[ghandi]

From the press...

Named and shamed for all to see.

• Derem Smith, 27, of Bridby Street, Sheffield, was charged with assaulting a constable and using threatening/abusive words/behaviour likely to cause harassment, alarm and distress, and will appear at Grimsby Magistrates' Court on August 3

• Brett Houldworth, 29, of Wadsworth Avenue, Sheffield, was charged with assaulting a constable and will appear at Grimsby Magistrates' Court on August 3.

• Perry Keith Smith, 30, of Garland Close, Westfield, Sheffield, was charged with assault and will appear at Grimsby Magistrates' Court on August 3.

Innocent until proven guilty. Many times has our Dazzler successfully defended fans charged with various football related crimes.

 

[BushBlade]

Innocent until proven guilty. Many times has our Dazzler successfully defended fans charged with various football related crimes.

Unless they were pigs? Then he 'forgot his briefcase'?

 

[Grizzly blade]

From the press...

Named and shamed for all to see.

• Derem Smith, 27, of Bridby Street, Sheffield, was charged with assaulting a constable and using threatening/abusive words/behaviour likely to cause harassment, alarm and distress, and will appear at Grimsby Magistrates' Court on August 3

• Brett Houldworth, 29, of Wadsworth Avenue, Sheffield, was charged with assaulting a constable and will appear at Grimsby Magistrates' Court on August 3.

• Perry Keith Smith, 30, of Garland Close, Westfield, Sheffield, was charged with assault and will appear at Grimsby Magistrates' Court on August 3.

Not hit the press yet, but there will be some significantly more serious investigations taking place in the very near future regarding the conduct of some United fans on Saturday!

Will see how big and hard those scum are when they are playing mummies and daddies with a lifer in HMP...FOR 13 years minimum!

 

[Bob Socks]

Strange fucking site this, one thread condemning all the violence on Saturday, then another reminiscing when you all wore the hooligan gear of the day.

 

[BushBlade]

Strange fucking site this, one thread condemning all the violence on Saturday, then another reminiscing when you all wore the hooligan gear of the day.

It's like when MPs condemn adultery.

 

[JOEYDEE]

Police just released this photo of our thugs celebrating after the violence at Grimsby.
Do you recognise anyone..contact Lincolnshire police immediately!

 

[dublin 10 blade]

Strange fucking site this, one thread condemning all the violence on Saturday, then another reminiscing when you all wore the hooligan gear of the day.

Never abused a man or women with his kids , or family , and quite frankly , nobody wearing the hooligan gear back then would have either .

 

[dublin 10 blade]

It's like when MPs condemn adultery.

Or Pedophilia , Or false invoicing , or tax avoidance , or , or ,or ....