Adkins' managerial ranking

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Given that we were the bookies favourites to win the League, the biggest wage bill (according to McCabe) and in light of the Hammond extension, is it fair to say that Adkins is the worst manager we've ever had - or is he still ahead of Peters and Weir?
 



hard one
expectation for all 3 was high
one a world cup winner
one Everton rated as the next Moyes
and Nigel who was good some years ago

all 3 ended up being inadequate
 
Not making the play-offs last season is the biggest shock I can remember in 60 years watching United.

I fully expected Adkins to get us promoted automatically and I have been in shock just how badly he was doing since about December last year.

It is hard to believe a seasoned manager could have lost sight of the basics in football management, it was a shambles. On reflection the Hammond signing might have been the stage he lost the players and the fans, never to recover the situation.

Whether he can be labelled the worst ever is another matter as we have had a number of poor ones.
 
At least Adkins lasted a season. With Adams we were heading downhill when he arrived. Heath and Weir were inexperienced managers who were out of their depth. To me Robson was the worst. Brought in some decent players but we really needed to be challenging for promotion that year - doing a Burnley (and hopefully Hull) in going straight back to the Premier League.
 
Adams was a disgrace, so was Clough without being as clueless and braindead. Adkins seemed new to football. We've been blessed, no doubt.
 
I would have to say either Weir or Adkins.

Remember Weirs interviews before he was sacked?? The guy was a mess. And like a rabbit in the headlights.

Adkins. Has there ever been such a bigger fraud? How the fuck did he manage 3 promotions?
 
Kev Gee said:
I would have to say either Weir or Adkins.

Remember Weirs interviews before he was sacked?? The guy was a mess. And like a rabbit in the headlights.

Adkins. Has there ever been such a bigger fraud? How the fuck did he manage 3 promotions?
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Statistically the worst managers have been Peters, Slade (temp), Weir and Adams all winning fewer than 1 in 5 games. Of those that lasted around half a season Adams (16.6%), Thompson (27.7%) and Heath (30.4%) were poor. Of the longer term appointments Jimmy Sirrell (24.6%) , Billy McEwan (31.4%) and Harry Haslam (31.5%) were particularly crap.
 
Kev Gee said:
I would have to say either Weir or Adkins.

Remember Weirs interviews before he was sacked?? The guy was a mess. And like a rabbit in the headlights.

Adkins. Has there ever been such a bigger fraud? How the fuck did he manage 3 promotions?
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Four promotions actually! :)
 
Its hard to know what adkins did wrong.

Were the players so inadequate that clough was actually a decent manager getting them into play offs or was adkins so incompetent.

My view is he just didn't know what to do to turn it around - in his interviews he was never able to identify anything tangiable that was wrong or he could improve. we just got a load of guff about endeavour and working hard to improve. I feel just the lack of athletisism and pace in the side left us expose only exhasibated by persisting with Hammond every game added to that adkins didn't give the side an identity.
 



Woodwardfan said:
Not making the play-offs last season is the biggest shock I can remember in 60 years watching United.

I fully expected Adkins to get us promoted automatically and I have been in shock just how badly he was doing since about December last year.

It is hard to believe a seasoned manager could have lost sight of the basics in football management, it was a shambles. On reflection the Hammond signing might have been the stage he lost the players and the fans, never to recover the situation.

Whether he can be labelled the worst ever is another matter as we have had a number of poor ones.
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My most disappointing year that I can remember as a blade. The players apathy killed me :(
 
Bladeinleeds said:
Its hard to know what adkins did wrong.

Were the players so inadequate that clough was actually a decent manager getting them into play offs or was adkins so incompetent.

My view is he just didn't know what to do to turn it around - in his interviews he was never able to identify anything tangiable that was wrong or he could improve. we just got a load of guff about endeavour and working hard to improve. I feel just the lack of athletisism and pace in the side left us expose only exhasibated by persisting with Hammond every game added to that adkins didn't give the side an identity.
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He had inherited Laws decent squad at Scunny and fell on several saints academy players just coming through at the right time at Saints. 5 or 6 really shone
Coming here he had 7 or 8 as a base to work with but showed hes not able now to bring in players to fit in , as he had failed in similar vein at Reading
Smoe managers get lucky as he did at scunny and saints when things fall into place,l but when a real rebuilding jobs required he wasnt up to it
We needed to be freshened up , as Chris is doing now, but he just let it drift along and was just complacent, wasting a full season with ineptitude in the market
 
I eagerly await the same thread next year where people are doing all this, but for Wilder instead. 9 managers in 9 years and according to the club, it's all been their faults. Fuck off.
 
I was 100% behind Adkins until the debacle with his captain committee which included Collins Sammon and skipper. He lost me
Completely the day I saw him have a go at coutts. Coutts the gave Adkins a tirade of abuse, the Adkins backed off and let it go. He should have took him straight off. It's from then I knew he had lost the dressing room.
 
Caseh said:
I eagerly await the same thread next year where people are doing all this, but for Wilder instead. 9 managers in 9 years and according to the club, it's all been their faults. Fuck off.
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Wilder's already gained reserves of respect by his actions so far. Let's see how it goes.

Any club wallowing like we are, way below expectations, needs that alchemy of right manager-right time-right club to start generating momentum & getting some basic belief in place. The fact that Wilder "knows the club" is probably vital for the situation we find ourselves in.
 
He was spotted by a friend (Reading fan) in Sheffield today. Brave man!
 
In terms of legacy that will take several years to clear up, Clough's is far worse than Adkins.

Last season was abysmal, but a year will remain too short a period to write off a manager.

UTB
 
alcoblade said:
In terms of legacy that will take several years to clear up, Clough's is far worse than Adkins.

Last season was abysmal, but a year will remain too short a period to write off a manager.

UTB
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It will be interesting Adkins next pit stop . With Asia and China opened up with football money , the world is now a oyster for failed managers .

UTB
 
Lord Bos of Eckington. said:
It will be interesting Adkins next pit stop . With Asia and China opened up with football money , the world is now a oyster for failed managers .

UTB
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It always has been. However, from thousands of managers. only small numbers will achieve what Adkins has.

Away from the emotional and incredibly short term judgement of football fans, the facts are cold and hard. Career wise, there are tens of thousands above Adkins in the failure stakes, including every manager we've employed since Warnock.

UTB
 
Adkins was a huge dispointment he wasn't hugely backed in the market but what he did bring in was a waste of the money he was given.

Weir was in the wrong job in football management I don't ever expect him to get a full time management job again.

Adams was out of his depth from game one but again he was given little to work with, the damage was already done over the proceeding two years by the board.

Heath was brought it to bring about a managed decline until Macdonald and Green could make an exit.

Clough and Robson are the ones that most annoy me, pound for pound in financial terms they were backed more than probably any managers in our history and blew it.
 
Caseh said:
I eagerly await the same thread next year where people are doing all this, but for Wilder instead. 9 managers in 9 years and according to the club, it's all been their faults. Fuck off.
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theyve had 11 managers in 10 years at chelsea won 3 titles 3 domestic cups and the champions league
so the number of managers a club uses has no bearing whatsoever
and its always down to the manager , he picks the players spends any money given and lets players go
tell me a game where mccabe picked a team
 
Decent guy,totally inept for us...got the impression Adkins was too nice,I don't expect CW to take any shit or carry any passengers
 



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