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I've decided for the remainder of the season, I shall not be asking for his sacking. Whilst I think as a manager he is tactically inept, and that we would be better off without him. McCabe won't be sacking him anytime soon.

Now we can either accept that, get behind the team for the remainder of the season and see how we pan out. Or we can carry on moaning like we have to no avail.

Let's face it, we're not in danger of being relegated. We're also not realistically going to get promoted regardless of the man in charge.

So lets give the board and the manager the backing that has been lacking of late and see if we can improve in any way.

We can at least say in the summer coming that we gave him a good season and sufficient funds to get us promoted, he failed, we made a mistake in appointing him and us and the manager go our seperate ways and then build for next season.

Before people think I'm sticking up for Robbo, I'm really not. I'd be happy if he walked away tomorrow, but that is not going to happen, nor is the board going to sack him, regardless of any car park protest.

Anyways, I'll hush now.
 



1st of all, who are you and what have you done with Robbie? :D

and 2nd

Let's face it, we're not in danger of being relegated. We're also not realistically going to get promoted regardless of the man in charge.

are you sure about this? all it takes is the remaining matches this season to be played like saturday and IMO that would be us fighting for championship survival. Do you think that saturdays performance was not relegation standard?
 
Saturdays performance was relegation standard. BUT its been the same a lot of weeks, and some of the games we have managed to win.

There are a lot of teams worse than that standard though in this league, so I just can't see relegation being a threat even though wer'e about 7 points away?
 
'Let's face it, we're not in danger of being relegated. We're also not realistically going to get promoted regardless of the man in charge.'

Me thinks your memory is too short, 10 points clear and look what happened, we are good enough to be relegated this season, believe me.
 
10 points clear in the PL is all very true, but it is different circumstances this time round. I don't believe even with Robbo in charge that we can get relegated. Famous last words hey?
 
10 points clear in the PL is all very true, but it is different circumstances this time round. I don't believe even with Robbo in charge that we can get relegated. Famous last words hey?

Oh yes, famous last words indeed, lets hope you are correct
 
I think we can be rest assured that if we don't get promoted, Robson will be packing his bags, along with alot of our players. If we give Robbo our support and the board etc...etc...Do you think Mc'Cabe will think we are happy with how Robbson is doing? Whilst i totally agree with you Robbie, i just cant help but think Mc'Cabe will keep him on lol
 
I've decided for the remainder of the season, I shall not be asking for his sacking. Whilst I think as a manager he is tactically inept, and that we would be better off without him. McCabe won't be sacking him anytime soon...

I concur Robbie - especially the bit about people thinking that because you aren't standing in the car park whinging, you particularly like Robson.
 
It could go either way. There is still the chance we can go on a good run and get into the play offs. But then again we might not.
 
Robson is a tool. Can't believe I bought his shin-pads. "Robson Gold" my shaven crack.
 
linz, out of interest, do you think robson should go or stay? i dont think i have read anywhere which side of the fence your on,
 
Linz, out of interest, do you think Robson should go or stay? I dont think I have read anywhere which side of the fence you're on.

There's a long answer and a short answer to this one:

The long answer:

There's lots of words that spring to mind with regards to my feelings towards Bryan Robson, but none of them quite fit.

Apathy suggests an indifference to the situation, which in some ways is fair concerning my support of the club. Osama Bin Laden could take over tomorrow with Gary Glitter as his number two... as long as Sheffield United is in existence, I will support the club. However, it could also suggest that I am unconcerned with the managerial situation, which is inaccurate.

I suppose hesitancy fits..

I have previously said I am in accord with Robbie's original post. We know the team isn't playing well and with that, I don't think anyone disagrees. However, some people are letting their loathing of Bryan Robson overshadow everything to do with being a football fan and supporting their club.Turning on fellow Blades because they do not share the same black and white view of the world? Shame on them. Booing during the matches? Certainly not what I consider support of your football team. Not only will they drive away those who share their views, but other fans who will quite happily support their team regardless of the manager, but who do not want the hostile and embittered atmosphere.

Rational argument seems to have gone of the window with some people with such an easy scapegoat... "it's Robson's fault". Well last season, it was "all Warnock's fault" and some people who were so vehemently calling for his head have now decided that maybe their vociferous protestations were ill-advised. The wisest are not always those who shout the loudest and no matter what anyone says, the blame cannot solely lie at one person's door. You might say Hitler was to blame for the atrocities in WWII... however, his whole army were held accountable.

I do not want Sheffield United to become a team consistently on the look-out for a new manager because that is not the way to garner success. Imagine this situation we're in now only it happens every season, every new manager given less time and opportunity to make a difference until no bugger will take the job because we're that unattractive as an outfit. My friends, we would become a laughing stock to an even greater degree than Newcastle. They however, have seen European competition in recent times. We have seen Division One promotion. Yet even they are derided for expecting more than their current position.

We should hope for more yes, but when hope leads to expectation, disappointment is lurking in the wings. We were not good enough to compete in the Premiership so we are in the Championship. Only if we are one of the best teams in the Championship will we get out of this division. We have no divine right to get out of this division or to win every game, but of course, we hope to. The expectation has sprung from the last couple of seasons... but there have been a lot of changes since then. Maybe we were naïve to think that we could be challenging this year. Hope not expectation.

I suppose there's also a degree of inefficaciousness which clouds my opinion. Whatever I think of Mr B. Robson is irrelevant because I am not the one who has control over whether he keeps his job or not. Those who believe that repeating the same indignant protestations wrapped up in hyperbole over and over again will make some blinding bit of difference have a very egotistical view of the world. As much as I hate to admit it, a football fan's opinion means sod all to the Chairman.

So what can you do?

Not very much really, is the answer.

You may very well want to go and stand in a cold and wet car park and bellow your feelings, shoulder to shoulder with your comrades in arms. Setting the world to rights simply with the power of your voice.

You may go to the match and boo. A sign of displeasure reflected towards not just the one man you consider to be at fault, but the club as a whole.

You may want to wave red cards and black balloons around. A visual protest at your displeasure.

But just imagine if the fans of Sheffield Wednesday, or Leeds United, or anyone for that matter were doing the same. Would you think they were passionate freedom fighters charged with upholding the reputation of their club in spite of the men in suits? Or would you think they were drunken rabble-rousers, jumping on the bandwagon for a bit of aggro and quite frankly, were rather pathetic?

I think I know what I would think.

So what's left? I suppose if you feel that upset by the situation, you simply refuse to hand any more money over to the club and stop coming to matches. At this juncture in my life, I couldn't ever conceive me doing this but I have no problem with people that do. If you don't like a shop, you don't go back. If you don't like a particular after-shave because it makes you smell like dog farts, you don't buy it again. You don't however, then spend all your life complaining about it to people who maybe tolerate the shop, or maybe enjoy the smell of canine flatulence in an effort to bring their opinion round to mirror your own.

So there's your long answer and I feel that you'll be dissatisfied with it. Like most things in this world, the situation is not black or white and neither is my opinion. I get the feeling you'll not be happy with the short answer either...

The short answer:

Doesn't really matter, we're stuck with him.
 



Linz's post more or less sums up my feelings too.

I have indeed in the past "thrown stones", carried banners and even organised coach trips to the Houses of Parliament, and talked in front of hundreds of people on other issues. Didn't make any difference but at the time made ME feel better.

Sometimes shouting don't make any difference and you really have to find other ways to make peace with yourself.

Anyway back to trivial posts for me!

:D:D:D
 
linz, all i wanted to know was in your opinion, if you was the chairman, would you sack him or back him :D
 
linz, all i wanted to know was in your opinion, if you was the chairman, would you sack him or back him :D

But I'm not the Chairman, so I don't have to sit down and think about making that decision. I do not have the contracts to hand or the financial figures in order to make a decision as a Chairman would. I do not have any idea what has been said, or has gone on in the background.

More importantly, I wouldn't have to justify my decision to the public at large if I chose not to, which I rather feel I am expected to do here.

Like I said, just because it seems clear to you, doesn't mean it is to other people.
 
still no streight answer. :rolleyes:

Out of curiousity, given that its so black and white.... you'd sack him, but who would you replace him with? on what wages? what sort of package? how much available for players? how many members of a backroom team can he appoint himself?
 
it was a hypothetical question. none of that would matter, in black and white, what would your decision be? and ive not herd what side of the fence you sit on too foxy, or shall i just take it your the same as linz and SF with all the financial, public speaking etc.
 
it was a hypothetical question. none of that would matter, in black and white, what would your decision be? and ive not herd what side of the fence you sit on too foxy, or shall i just take it your the same as linz and SF with all the financial, public speaking etc.

Where have I said I really wanted Robson or indeed he should not go?

I's not our decision though.

I've said many times things need to change.

I still stand by what I've said about players taking some of the blame.
 
still no straight answer. :rolleyes:

It must be very nice to see everything in the world in such simplistic ways.

I can't provide a straight answer to a question with so many ramifications I have no concept of. I will admit that I do not know instead of guessing either way what would be best for a club I love so much.

You ask me whether I like Robson or not... I can't provide a straight answer.

To give you a tangible and very personal example... I love Foxy very much.

However, on odd occasions, it's fair to say that I don't particularly like him for one reason or another.

So in your very stripped-down view, I go from loving him to hating him. However, I know that isn't the case. It's just a myriad of feelings, sometimes one takes precedent over the other.

Why am I not allowed a diverse range of feelings towards this situation?

it was a hypothetical question. none of that would matter, in black and white, what would your decision be?

Nothing is black and white.

You might as well ask what I'd feel like if I turned into a chinese, one-legged lesbian who rode around town on a camel. It's about as likely to happen as anything in football being black and white!
 
steve on last page you said linz's post more or less sums up your feelings hence.

fine then linz, ill take it your on the fence about it.
 
it was a hypothetical question. none of that would matter, in black and white, what would your decision be? and ive not herd what side of the fence you sit on too foxy, or shall i just take it your the same as linz and SF with all the financial, public speaking etc.

As i've said many times, Robson would have been far from my first choice. I don't dislike the man, I have no reason to dislike him as a person. I just wouldn't have picked him to become manager. This doesn't mean however he gets any less of a chance in my mind than whoever would have been my first choice.

Without a doubt, he has a better knowledge of the game than anybody here. No matter what you say about him, he's successfully played out a career in top level football, with all the things that come with that. To suggest otherwise, in my opinion, is absolutely ridiculous.

Now, something is clearly wrong at the moment. That isn't in doubt. Mr Robson does indeed have to take overall responsibility for that. The players also have to take a large portion of responsibility in terms of how this season has gone. Whatever is wrong, needs addressing quickly, but what is it that is wrong?

Players don't turn bad overnight, playing in a 4-5-1 formation doesn't render them unable to do the basics successfully. Playing 4-5-1 or having a manager who comes across as calm on the sidelines most of the time similarly doesn't absolve any player from showing a complete lack of passion or fight.

I have absolutely no doubt that Robson has and will continue to make mistakes, however, I don't think the blame can be placed solely on his shoulders.

As I keep saying, I'm not going to boo players or the manager whilst the game is taking place, i'm not going to jump on every mistake they make and i'm certainly not going to chant the opposition managers name. I personally feel this is totally counter-productive and embarressing. This doesn't mean i'm happy with the situation, or that I sit clapping any old crap (as you keep saying).

My view on Robson's immediate future is that for the moment, the board have made quite clear that they are going to support him and think he can turn it around. This means that I expect him to be in the position till at least the end of the season (major disasters permitting). While ever this is the case, I will continue to refrain from booing/chanting for him sacking during the match.

I personally can't think of anyone we could currently get in as a replacement who would be likely to do a better job. That is from my rather limited position of being a supporter and not the chairman of a football club.
People mention Allerdyce... why the flying f*ck would he come to the Blades having just been hounded out of Newcastle by impatient fans?

Sadly football isn't as clear cut as most people make out.

I'd quite happily sack Robson tomorrow if it wouldn't harm our reputation as a club or our chances of employing a better manager (if there was one out there) and if we could guarentee a turnaround. It doesn't happen like that though.

I'm on neither side of this mythical fence, I'm purely of the opinion that something is wrong and needs to be changed and quickly. I personally trust the judgement of our Chairman to realise what is wrong within his club and act accordingly, with far more information and knowledge than we all have.

You say none of it would matter, but it does matter, it matters big time, which is why Mr McCabe is in charge of performing such changes and not the fans.

People said anyone was better than Neil Warnock and thought that I stuck up for him because I didnt chant Warnock out.... Seems it wasn't quite all that clear cut, was it?
 
Keenzy......

Why do people have to post every post that they want Robson out?

Can't we post what we want??

It's up to McCabe......unless you think otherwise.

Some of us will get on with supporting the team and club.

Our choice.
 
We've posted long answers and short answers as to why we aren't calling for the manager's head and yet you aren't happy.

I feel that unless our views coincided with your own, you would never be satisfied, such is the level of bitterness you feel towards the club at the moment.

I'm only sorry you feel that way and pleased that I don't.
 



i havent booed robson in the ground. i dont boo its not constructive.

i agree with you, i have no grudge again the man as a bloke really, i was feeling sorry for him when the kop was singing robson out against palace, but as a manager he sux. big time.

yes he's played at top level football, but dosent mean he's a great manager and its proven that with his track record, that he's useless.

"I'd quite happily sack Robson tomorrow if it wouldn't harm our reputation as a club or our chances of employing a better manager (if there was one out there)"

thats all i wanted to know really :)

"I personally can't think of anyone we could currently get in as a replacement who would be likely to do a better job."

not anyone at all? im sure there could be someone lured away with abit of dosh.


is he not sacking him till the compensation hearing in the summer, see what compo we get to release him from his contract?
 

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