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zablade said:
Well I will be the one to stand in front of the guns and say it, I am not enthused by the appointment of Chris Wilder.

I don't for one second belive he would have been on the radar if he hadn't been a Blade, he has had a couple of good season's at Northampton, but a decade or so at Halifax and Oxford not really doing much.

I would on balance have given Adkins another season beyond any other realistic appointment, (apart from perhaps Warnock) The only way I can see us making a challenge for promotion next season is with a serious investment in six or seven quality signings, but that has been already ruled out and we are looking towards the academy, frees and the current squad.

I want to be wrong and maybe I am in an alcohol fuled maudlin mood, but I don't see us progressing in the near future at all.

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You probably would have said the same about Churchill being appointed after Chamberlain went and the Dunkirk fiasco. FFS Give the bloke a chance :rolleyes: Wilder is a motivator. I am really pleased with the appointment at least he hasn't got any relegations on his cv, only a club going bust! :)

PS are you Corporal Jones in disguise?
 



sheffielder said:
Didn't the prince have a say in clough or Adkins then? He was even around the scenes for Weir.
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The prince was in favour of Parkinson last season but it seems the other members of the board swayed Phipps into recommending their decision to go for Adkins.
 
I suppose that everyone on here knew from day 1 of his appointment that Ranieri was the man to make Leicester the Champions of the Premier League?
 
I've looked at some of his interviews as Northampton manager and the thing that comes across most is passion, something our players severely lack. If he showed so much passion for Nothampton just imagine the passion he'll show for us. If anyone thinks he'll let the players play like they did last season forget it, he won't allow it.

I want a return to the Warnock days, players who'll die for the cause. Wilder will bring that to the team. Add that to the fact he's a very good manager with the proven ability to build good teams in the lower leagues, which is where we are.

I've got a really good feeling about this. We've tried 'name' managers and managers who fail at clubs before being appointed by us. This time we've got an up and coming manager who knows why we fans get on players backs when losing to the likes of Scunthorpe. He gets it because he understands we expect better, and rightly so.

I had no enthusiasm at all for next season and could only see another failure in an empty ground with Adkins still telling us how much he's 'learnt' from another home defeat to another tiny tiny club. We do that next season and it"'ll be the players who learn something, mess around with CW and your history.

I'm actually looking forward to next season, certainly wouldn't have said that a few days ago.
 
I think the most positive thing on the cv is that he seems to have been able to get more than the sum of its parts from a side.

For a decade this team has been worse than the collection of players on the field. Though either poor tactics, recruitment or man management. Hopefully he can change that.

Just hope we give him the tools to bring in some players. He must be aware we have the slowest side in the league and one of he worst defences ATM
 
Harry's Game said:
The prince was in favour of Parkinson last season but it seems the other members of the board swayed Phipps into recommending their decision to go for Adkins.
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Ive said before that is not the case but no one believes me. It will come out one day. Adkins was the choice of the Prince and his men ,McCabe wanted and actually verbally gave the job to Parkinson ,he never wanted Adkins.
I think that is why he has managed to get Wilder in so quick ,as the Prince realised hed dropped a bollock. Im only guessing at this bit.
 
sitwell said:
Ive said before that is not the case but no one believes me. It will come out one day. Adkins was the choice of the Prince and his men ,McCabe wanted and actually verbally gave the job to Parkinson ,he never wanted Adkins.
I think that is why he has managed to get Wilder in so quick ,as the Prince realised hed dropped a bollock. Im only guessing at this bit.
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That's how I saw it too, not about Parkinson but Phipps seemed to do all the spadework and chose Adkins then McCabe appointed him. However somebody I respect on here did say it was otherwise. Phipps has slipped away though and there has been no conviction to stay with Adkins, that's for sure.
 
GRUMPY BLADE said:
Never sacked and I bet he gets drinks bought at the bar when he goes back to both clubs.

Alfreton Town
Wilder began his career in management at Alfreton Town. He took over at the club in late October 2001 and in the 27 weeks he was in charge won four trophies: the Northern Counties (East) League Premier Division, the League Cup, the President's Cup and the Derbyshire Senior Cup.

Halifax Town
Wilder returned to Halifax Town as manager on 2 July 2002. He replaced caretaker manager Neil Redfearn, who had in turn replaced Alan Little (who left on 8 April after falling ill with appendicitis in March). Halifax had been relegated to the Conference at the end of the season.

Wilder was in charge at Halifax for more than 300 games until the club went into liquidation on 30 June 2008, and he decided to join former Halifax defender Alan Knill, as the assistant manager of Bury.

Oxford United
After less than six months at Gigg Lane, Wilder was appointed as the manager of Conference National club Oxford United on 21 December 2008, where he only just missed out on a play-off place in his first season. Wilder's first full season in charge of Oxford began successfully and by mid-season they were top of the Conference table by five points with a game in hand. However, Oxford were overtaken by Stevenage Borough, who would go on to win the title and take the automatic promotion place, consigning the Us to the playoffs with Luton Town, Rushden & Diamonds and York City. They defeated Rushden & Diamonds to reach the play-off final, and gained promotion to the Football League by beating York City 3–1.

In their first season back in the Football League in four years, Wilder guided Oxford to mid-table safety. The team finished 12th, in the top half of the table, their highest finish in seven years. The next season Oxford finished ninth, after poor form late in the season led to the team dropping out of the play-off position they had occupied for most of the year. Oxford's chairman Kelvin Thomas gave Wilder his backing, meaning he would remain manager for the 2012–13 season. Despite failing to achieve a play-off place again in Oxford's third season back in the League, and intense speculation about his future at the club, Wilder was offered and accepted a further one-year contract for the 2013–14 season.

On 26 January 2014 he resigned as Oxford manager with the intention of joining League Two rivals Northampton Town as their manager.

Northampton Town
On 27 January 2014 Wilder was appointed manager of Northampton Town, signing a three-and-a-half year contract. Wilder successfully battled imminent relegation to the Conference, after taking over the club in the relegation zone in League 2. He led the side to a mid-table finish in 2014–15, and then to the Football League Two title the following season with 99 points.
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How did Wilder achieve what he did at Northampton? Well he certainly didn't inherit a strong squad as looking at the 15 players who played the most games for them last season, he signed every one since he joined the Cobblers in January 2014.

The average age of those players is 28 years old. The heights are: 1 @ 5'7", 2@5'8", 2@ 5'9", 2@ 5'11", 1@ 6', 4@6'1", 2@ 6'2", 1@ 6'3".

Anybody know what formation they played?
 
GRUMPY BLADE said:
Never sacked and I bet he gets drinks bought at the bar when he goes back to both clubs.

Alfreton Town
Wilder began his career in management at Alfreton Town. He took over at the club in late October 2001 and in the 27 weeks he was in charge won four trophies: the Northern Counties (East) League Premier Division, the League Cup, the President's Cup and the Derbyshire Senior Cup.

Halifax Town
Wilder returned to Halifax Town as manager on 2 July 2002. He replaced caretaker manager Neil Redfearn, who had in turn replaced Alan Little (who left on 8 April after falling ill with appendicitis in March). Halifax had been relegated to the Conference at the end of the season.

Wilder was in charge at Halifax for more than 300 games until the club went into liquidation on 30 June 2008, and he decided to join former Halifax defender Alan Knill, as the assistant manager of Bury.

Oxford United
After less than six months at Gigg Lane, Wilder was appointed as the manager of Conference National club Oxford United on 21 December 2008, where he only just missed out on a play-off place in his first season. Wilder's first full season in charge of Oxford began successfully and by mid-season they were top of the Conference table by five points with a game in hand. However, Oxford were overtaken by Stevenage Borough, who would go on to win the title and take the automatic promotion place, consigning the Us to the playoffs with Luton Town, Rushden & Diamonds and York City. They defeated Rushden & Diamonds to reach the play-off final, and gained promotion to the Football League by beating York City 3–1.

In their first season back in the Football League in four years, Wilder guided Oxford to mid-table safety. The team finished 12th, in the top half of the table, their highest finish in seven years. The next season Oxford finished ninth, after poor form late in the season led to the team dropping out of the play-off position they had occupied for most of the year. Oxford's chairman Kelvin Thomas gave Wilder his backing, meaning he would remain manager for the 2012–13 season. Despite failing to achieve a play-off place again in Oxford's third season back in the League, and intense speculation about his future at the club, Wilder was offered and accepted a further one-year contract for the 2013–14 season.

On 26 January 2014 he resigned as Oxford manager with the intention of joining League Two rivals Northampton Town as their manager.

Northampton Town
On 27 January 2014 Wilder was appointed manager of Northampton Town, signing a three-and-a-half year contract. Wilder successfully battled imminent relegation to the Conference, after taking over the club in the relegation zone in League 2. He led the side to a mid-table finish in 2014–15, and then to the Football League Two title the following season with 99 points.
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I wonder how Adkins wiki CV would stack up with 4 promotions right up to the Prem.

Wilder is the far more experienced manager with over 700 games (league 2 and non league) compared with Adkins 400. Although a lower overall win ratio overall than Adkins he is coming off the back of a tremendous season with Northampton (99 points).

Let's hope Wilder can inject a bit of that elusive 'passion' into the squad.
 
mosbolad said:
I wonder how Adkins wiki CV would stack up with 4 promotions right up to the Prem.

Wilder is the far more experienced manager with over 700 games (league 2 and non league) compared with Adkins 400. Although a lower overall win ratio overall than Adkins he is coming off the back of a tremendous season with Northampton (99 points).

Let's hope Wilder can inject a bit of that elusive 'passion' into the squad.
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Sadly, Adkins is on the slide to oblivion though (especially sadly, because phase 2 of that slide was very much with us).

Had a look at Peter Reid's record as a manager recently, which was surprisingly excellent early on - a top 5 top league finish with Man Citeh (pre-moneybags) & a record points total promotion winning season with Sunderland, followed by a 7th place finish in the prem (with Kevin Phillips scoring the goals). Then the slide set in & he ended up managing the Thai national team (like a certain other "illustrious" manager I can think of) and Mumbai City.

Can see a similar fate awaiting Nige in the coming years tbh.

Thankfully we've got a manager on an upward trajectory this time. Just have to hope he hasn't peaked yet.
 
Cobbler here , gutted to have lost wilder but going to you guys has eased the pain , it was no secret he wanted this job , he will get you promoted and if you want an example of passion check out his post match speech after notts county away on you tube .The bloke is a ledgend , good luck in your promotion ,would love to see him manage you in the prem
 
I can't see the problem.

We have got rid of the last two managers because they were crap and failed. 11th place under Adkins tenure is an embarrassing failure. His selections, tactics and players he brought in were poor. He couldn't motivate and was full of shit.

The board have been incredibly decisive in securing Wilder and giving Adkins his marching orders. All within a week of the season ending and announced on the same day.

We obviously don't know how next season will turn out but the right decision has been made. We can't be afraid of making the right decision because of previous failures.

In summary - I'm pretty whelmed.
 
I too am a little "underwhelmed" with the appointment, but I was excited about Weir, Clough and Adkins, so I know f@ck all. I wish him well and would love to see him have a successful managerial career with us.
 



Cobbler said:
Cobbler here , gutted to have lost wilder but going to you guys has eased the pain , it was no secret he wanted this job , he will get you promoted and if you want an example of passion check out his post match speech after notts county away on you tube .The bloke is a ledgend , good luck in your promotion ,would love to see him manage you in the prem
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Hope you had a bet on this :-)
 
Nick Jansky said:
Completely unnecessary. What was the point?
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Agree but reading through some of historical comments does give an insight into the mind set of supporters at that time who were devoid of confidence, hopeful rather than excited. Compare then to now and it’s mind blowing, the fans are no longer divided over the manager, he has delivered, he is our special one and regardless of what happens next we have the Manager or the Feckin Year in charge
 
DronnieBlade said:
If folks can't see that this is the CV of a bloke who can genuinely provide positive influence, then I'm a monkey's uncle. That's impressive, albeit at lower levels.

It's hardly surprising Wilder was a wanted man this summer.

The fact that the success has been at the lower levels is much more a positive than a negative, as it suggests working well with severe financial constraints, and that Wilder can mould a team to work as a team, something we have lacked for some time.

Forget the Bladey Blade bollocks that has been bandied around. It's nonsense mostly coming from the multitude of the negative brigade that love the sound of their own voices.

If Wilder fails or succeeds it will have nothing to do with him being a Blade. Just a good (or bad) manager.

Time will tell.

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So good it was / is 👍😀😉

UTB
 
GRUMPY BLADE said:
Never sacked and I bet he gets drinks bought at the bar when he goes back to both clubs.

Alfreton Town
Wilder began his career in management at Alfreton Town. He took over at the club in late October 2001 and in the 27 weeks he was in charge won four trophies: the Northern Counties (East) League Premier Division, the League Cup, the President's Cup and the Derbyshire Senior Cup.

Halifax Town
Wilder returned to Halifax Town as manager on 2 July 2002. He replaced caretaker manager Neil Redfearn, who had in turn replaced Alan Little (who left on 8 April after falling ill with appendicitis in March). Halifax had been relegated to the Conference at the end of the season.

Wilder was in charge at Halifax for more than 300 games until the club went into liquidation on 30 June 2008, and he decided to join former Halifax defender Alan Knill, as the assistant manager of Bury.

Oxford United
After less than six months at Gigg Lane, Wilder was appointed as the manager of Conference National club Oxford United on 21 December 2008, where he only just missed out on a play-off place in his first season. Wilder's first full season in charge of Oxford began successfully and by mid-season they were top of the Conference table by five points with a game in hand. However, Oxford were overtaken by Stevenage Borough, who would go on to win the title and take the automatic promotion place, consigning the Us to the playoffs with Luton Town, Rushden & Diamonds and York City. They defeated Rushden & Diamonds to reach the play-off final, and gained promotion to the Football League by beating York City 3–1.

In their first season back in the Football League in four years, Wilder guided Oxford to mid-table safety. The team finished 12th, in the top half of the table, their highest finish in seven years. The next season Oxford finished ninth, after poor form late in the season led to the team dropping out of the play-off position they had occupied for most of the year. Oxford's chairman Kelvin Thomas gave Wilder his backing, meaning he would remain manager for the 2012–13 season. Despite failing to achieve a play-off place again in Oxford's third season back in the League, and intense speculation about his future at the club, Wilder was offered and accepted a further one-year contract for the 2013–14 season.

On 26 January 2014 he resigned as Oxford manager with the intention of joining League Two rivals Northampton Town as their manager.

Northampton Town
On 27 January 2014 Wilder was appointed manager of Northampton Town, signing a three-and-a-half year contract. Wilder successfully battled imminent relegation to the Conference, after taking over the club in the relegation zone in League 2. He led the side to a mid-table finish in 2014–15, and then to the Football League Two title the following season with 99 points.
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Told yer.
 
Show me anyone who says he was happy with how things looked at that point and I’ll show you a liar.

Ffs.
 
zablade said:
Show me anyone who says he was happy with how things looked at that point and I’ll show you a liar.

Ffs.
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Why not just hold your hands up and say, "wow, I was wrong there, wasn't I?" and add a couple of silly emoji things? The thread shows plenty of people had the exact opposite view - the worst thing you can do now is try and justify yourself, it makes you look surly and unable to admit a mistake.
 
A few thought he’d do ok but I bet nobody in their Wilderist dreams thought that he’d be THIS ok...except maybe the Cobblers fan.

Premier League in 3 season, English footballs manager of the year 2019, I mean come on. I still expect to wake up one morning and hear Adkins’s twang.
 



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