Who owns Tevez?

[silverfox]

Real Madrid are in talks with Carlos Tevez's owner Kia Joorabchian over a controversial £30million deal.

The Spanish champions have held a meeting between top negotiator Predrag Mijatovic and Joorabchian, who still claims to have the rights to West Ham's Argentina striker.

Tevez's future could be decided in the next 48 hours, with Inter Milan also keen, but both Liverpool and Chelsea are reluctant to meet Joorabchian's asking price.

Hammers chairman Eggert Magnusson insists his club own Tevez, but Joorabchian is blatantly hawking him around Europe.

Now Real are the most likely buyers as they are happy to pay the fee demanded by Joorabchian and the investors behind MSI, who took Tevez to Brazilian side Corinthians.

The bottom line is that Joorabchian and his money men have to make a big profit. Tevez's storming finish to the Premiership season means he is a hot property again.

However, questions will be asked once Real come to buy Tevez - including where the money goes.

West Ham claimed they ripped up their agreement with Joorabchian, but the wheeler-dealer still expects to pocket all the cash.

The Premier League's arbitration panel are currently studying the Tevez case and news that he is about to be sold over West Ham's head may give them food for thought.

Meanwhile, the Hammers are in the hunt for Blackburn striker Benni McCarthy, who appears on collision course with Ewood Park boss Mark Hughes after openly angling for a move.

McCarthy said: "I am very flattered to be linked with clubs like Chelsea and West Ham."

 

[Bladesman]

Kia Joorabchian still owns him its blatent for all to see.

When he spoke out in the newspapers a few months back when asked about where would the money go if Tevez was sold he said it would go to him.

Its all bollocks what the egg man has been saying about them owning Tevez.

 

[jodman]

This siutaion may be the most bizzare i have ever come acorss in my years as a football fan. It does seem blatanatly obvious that West Ham have no control over a player that they allegedly own but they cannot admit that he is actually owned by a third party because it would also confirm that the third party agreement was never 'torn up' and so Tevez should not have been allowed to continue to play last season.

 

[sendô WHU]

Im actually quite excited to see what happens here. I don't think anyone has ever doubted that the money from any transfer would likely go to Joorabchian, but then if he is under contract at West Ham, could Eggy just refuse to let him go, thus keeping him at the club, effectively as a free transfer for the next 3 years?

Only time will tell.

 

[Bladesman]

Im actually quite excited to see what happens here.

Are you sure ? Surely if West Ham claim to own Tevez you should get the dollar if he is sold.

 

[Robbie]

Im actually quite excited to see what happens here. I don't think anyone has ever doubted that the money from any transfer would likely go to Joorabchian, but then if he is under contract at West Ham, could Eggy just refuse to let him go, thus keeping him at the club, effectively as a free transfer for the next 3 years?

Only time will tell.

You see,

When it all came about, I was on the understanding that the contract between MSI and WHU had been ripped up and that the PL accepted this so he could then re-sign for WHU and play the remainding 3 games. But now it seems that if Jia is still touting Tevez about, that he does actually still own them.....

So what exactly was ripped up?

Was it his contract with MSI? Was it the part of the contract that made MSI have a 3rd party influence?

Will the PL investigate this like they rightly should? Because I am also led tobelieve that documentation was never presented to show that any contract was cancelled, and that only verbal confirmation was given.

If they are found guilty for the final 3 games, will they be punished again? Will it be a further fine? Will it be a points deduction? Will there be a further rule breaking by lying to the PL?

 

[sendô WHU]

So what exactly was ripped up?

My understanding is the part that was ripped up - the offending part - was the bit that said that Kia could move Tevez on in January if he chose to do so whether West Ham let him or not.

Of course, whether this was the only bit, if there are other contracts that the PL do or don't know about etc is merely speculation on our part, and only West Ham, Kia and hopefully the PL (but lets face it, they don't seem to know their arses from their elbows anyway.)

 

[rotherhamblade]

I think kia and egghead should have a fight to the death on the top of a active volcano which hashuge steal spikes poking up through the lava,the winner owns mr tevez

 

[Sensiblade]

I think kia and egghead should have a fight to the death on the top of a active volcano which hashuge steal spikes poking up through the lava,the winner owns mr tevez

LET'S GET IT ON

 

[sendô WHU]

LET'S GET IT ON

There should sooo be an episode of that involving Eggy, Kia, Tevez, McCabe, Whelan, Sean Bean and Scudamore in one big royal rumble. Throw in Terrence Brown and Warnock aswell for good measure.

 

[MAQ]

Im actually quite excited to see what happens here. I don't think anyone has ever doubted that the money from any transfer would likely go to Joorabchian, but then if he is under contract at West Ham, could Eggy just refuse to let him go, thus keeping him at the club, effectively as a free transfer for the next 3 years?

Only time will tell.

if this "Transfer" goes ahead i can see an even bigger legal battle coming between Eggy and Kia. This seems to be even thicker and deeper than anyone ever imagined, The only thing that i can see that will clear this up is if Kia actually comes out and is interviewed on this, confirming or at least clarifying the current situation. As has been said its all pie in the sjy at the moment, and noone seems to be 100% certain where anyone stands.

Its very interesting to say the least, and i hope, for everyones sake, that there is some sort of clarification prior to the arbitration hearing. If not, and it does come out afterwards that tevez moves to whoever for "Nothing" as far as WHU are concerned, it could very well throw the hole debarcle back wide open again.

Im starting to get very bored of the whole he said she said status, and to a stage where the initial ruling stands/is to be re-heard/is overruled (Delete as appropriate) and it then be picked up once again (Cos you know that if we dont get the result that we believe is true McCabe will do what he can to re-start it again) because of this, will not do anyone any good whatsoever.

IMO anyway

PS: Death match would be an amazing idea. The outright winner gets premiership status for their team (unless its Scudamore, in which case he should just be blown up by Sepp Blatter or someone like that)

 

[happyhippy]

This farce is getting to such decreasing circles that I'm expecting Richard Briers to turn up as Head Coach.

 

[Bladesman]

Tevez 'contracts' are threat to West Ham
Last updated at 00:23am on 23rd June 2007

Third party 'influence' may mean Hammers are not in the clear over Tevez
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Sheffield United are closing in on new explosive evidence which threatens to blow the Carlos Tevez affair wide open again.

Sportsmail has learned that three contracts are in existence which prove that Kia Joorabchian&£39;s MSI company maintained its thirdparty 'influence' over Tevez — even after West Ham had been fined £5.5million having pleaded guilty to not holding exclusive ownership of the Argentina striker.

Lawyers working on behalf of Sheffield United chairman Kevin McCabe are pressurising lawyers of Joorabchian to make the documents available to the Premier League.

The three contracts cannot influence the decision of the arbitration tribunal, which sat earlier this week and is currently considering if the Premier League acted wrongly by not deducting points.

No new evidence can be heard but the League will be under pressure to act if these documents are made public and prove West Ham continued to play Tevez illegally.

Ooo intresting news indeed.

Jesus its getting very deep now.

 

[jodman]

If i have learned anything from this debacle it is that 90% of what appears in the media is completely made up.

I really hope that the article that you posted above is one of the 10% which are true because this would surely leave the PL no choice but to rule in our favour.

 

[Bladesman]

If i have learned anything from this debacle it is that 90% of what appears in the media is completely made up.

I really hope that the article that you posted above is one of the 10% which are true because this would surely leave the PL no choice but to rule in our favour.

Well it all seems odd they he was allowed to continue to play when the original contract was ripped up. I reckon no agreements were torn up which is why Kia still reckons he will get all the £££.

 

[jodman]

Well it all seems odd they he was allowed to continue to play when the original contract was ripped up. I reckon no agreements were torn up which is why Kia still reckons he will get all the £££.

My thoughts exactly and if this is the case i fail to see how we can lose the arbitration hearing but i suppose if OJ can get away with murder...

 

[Bladesman]

Blades line up final appeal to Tevez 'owner'

SHEFFIELD United's attempts to persuade Kia Joorabchian to support their campaign for fairness are continuing despite the fact that the Iranian entrepreneur, whose business dealings with West Ham have provoked one of the most controversial episodes in the history of English football, is unable to influence to outcome of their arbitration process with the FA Premier League.

United and their plc chairman, Kevin McCabe, are anxiously awaiting Sir Philip Otton’s verdict into the FAPL’s handling of the Carlos Tevez Affair following last week’s tribunal hearing in London.

Behind the scenes, their legal team plan to make another series of representations to Joorabchian in an attempt to apply further pressure on the FAPL’s chief executive, Richard Scudamore.

Joorabchian’s ownership of Tevez and Mascherano through his MSI firm broke the rules governing third-party ownership of players.

United argue that the FAPL’s failure to deduct West Ham points for a deliberate breach of transfer regulations when they signed the Argentine and his international teammate, Javier Mascherano, contributed to their relegation last term and are fighting to win a reprieve.

Unsubstantiated reports that West Ham are in possession of three different contracts relating to the former Corinthians striker have prompted the South Yorkshire club to redouble their efforts to convince Joorbachian to break his silence.

Lets hope we can pursuade him to break his silence and tell us what is really going on.

 

[happyhippy]

To be honest, if this can be proved, then I think West Ham are seriously deep in the brown stuff.

If there are documents 'in existence' which are withheld from/unavailable to a court/tribunal which are relevant to the proceedings, then in law, the decision can be 'set aside', and a further tribunal convened.

Even if this panel does a 'Comical Ali', and upholds the original decision, there are grounds to investigate West Sham even further.

All the 'it was an administration error' arguments are wearing extremely thin now.

To say the least.