Well done United.

[beightonblade]

The sale of killa at £2million was the best bit of business done at BDTBL in years.

 

[Ollessendro]

The sale of killa at £2million was the best bit of business done at BDTBL in years.

Tricky Trevor eh?!

 

[Revolution]

The sale of killa at £2million was the best bit of business done at BDTBL in years.

1. It was an undisclosed fee. I have seen other figures bandied about that were nowhere near this.

2. Selling your best player (for the 4th time in 3 years, I might add) is never a good thing.

 

[SheepdipBlade]

The sale of killa at £2million was the best bit of business done at BDTBL in years.

1. It was an undisclosed fee. I have seen other figures bandied about that were nowhere near this.

2. Selling your best player (for the 4th time in 3 years, I might add) is never a good thing.

Bloody Hell - didn't realise we'd sold Wardy too!!!

 

[Robbie]

2. Selling your best player (for the 4th time in 3 years, I might add) is never a good thing.

Whilst I agree on this principal,

I'd disagree that he is/was our best player.

Also, to get £2 million (approx what we paid) for a player whose contract runs out in 5 months time is very good business.

That's of course if it is £2 million

 

[Revolution]

Okay then, one of your best players. Same principle.

And I don't care about the money unless we use it on more players, preferably ones better than the likes of Fortune.

 

[Chingo]

Good business IMO , we know Sunderland offered more than Burnleys 1.25 million and as said above bearing in mind the length of contract left its good money.

Its only good money if used on the team though and not to pay KM back , hopefully clever Trevor is tying some permanants up because were going to be in a five a side league next season if its more loans.

 

[Micalijo]

I've no doubt that Birch's experience in the insolvency world is coming to the fore here. Ensure cash flow maintained, especially when the value of your main assets (property) is impaired. Mind you, I could tell McCabe that, we all could.

Inevitable sale. I don't see how we can criticise the club for selling a good player here. We really had very little choice didn't we? The key link between fans and team for me is that we need to know (or more realistically, believe) that the players we support want to be out there on the pitch doing what we dream of. Had Killa stayed that link wouldn't be there.

On another point, how many Blades bought a ticket for the Boro game? About 1,000? Sign of the things to come next term.

 

[dingledog]

Its good business, we couldnt afford his wage demands and we would have got nothing in May.

 

[Baildon Blade]

Totally disagree. The best bit of business was getting more than a bag of chips for 'Mikel' Tonge.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

On another point, how many Blades bought a ticket for the Boro game? About 1,000? Sign of the things to come next term.

Hardly, where do you get the 1,000 buying tickets for the Boro game?
I thought there were 23,000 there and Boro hardly brought anyone.
Plus it was on the back of some terrible weather conditions. Talk about knee jerk reaction.

Let see what the attendance will be against Reading and Derby I would say 25,000 and close to 30,000.

 

[Grecian2000]

Hardly, where do you get the 1,000 buying tickets for the Boro game?
I thought there were 23,000 there and Boro hardly brought anyone.
Plus it was on the back of some terrible weather conditions. Talk about knee jerk reaction.

Let see what the attendance will be against Reading and Derby I would say 25,000 and close to 30,000.

Had this very discussion on Saturday night.

19000 Season Tickets.
We estimated the Lane End holds about 3k and was about half full = 1500 (20500)
Aren't there something like a thousand freebies, corporates, spongers etc. (21500)
This would leave just over 1500 "pay on the dayers".
I thought this was pretty poor for a Saturday against one of the teams relegated from the Prem last season.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Had this very discussion on Saturday night.

19000 Season Tickets.
We estimated the Lane End holds about 3k and was about half full = 1500 (20500)
Aren't there something like a thousand freebies, corporates, spongers etc. (21500)
This would leave just over 1500 "pay on the dayers".
I thought this was pretty poor for a Saturday against one of the teams relegated from the Prem last season.

The away end was never half full mate, but I would say the weather conditions had more of an effect on the attendances then anything else.

We shall see for Reading and especially Derby.

 

[Grecian2000]

It was the paucity of the away support that started the conversation in the first place. Boro used to be able to fill the away end with a some very unsavoury types in attendance. Still think there was over a thousand of 'em this time.

 

[SwissBlade]

We have 19000 season ticket holders and you're assuming that all of them turned up.

Its still a poor attendance against what i'd see as a "Big team" in this division.
It was a poor attendance against QPR in the Cup - People said the interest isn't there in the cup

Yet we manage to sell 5000 tickets in quick time to the Cup game v Bolton.

I'd say that its more down to people being too nesh or not been arsed about going to sit for 2 hours in the cold.

As for the subject, its not so much "Well done" but more Well done for recovering some money"

How on earth we never managed to cash in sooner or tie him down to a long term contract (or a contract like Morgs and Quinny with extension options) i'll never know. Do we not learn from the past?

I hope that Clever Trevor is seeing this as a priority so we don't continue to lose decent players for cut prices.

In the end we were lucky that Killa accepted Sunderland's offer as we could very easily have got nothing for him in the summer! And that wouldn't have been very clever

 

[SotonBlade]

Killa was a good player. I don't think he could be ranked as a massive loss. I think Seip will fill his boots nicely. Good business considering his contract was up at the end of the season.

I reckon the total fee will be close to £2mill, but not that much initially

 

[Ollessendro]

We have 19000 season ticket holders and you're assuming that all of them turned up.

I could be wrong Swiss, but I think all season tickets are included in the attendence figure, regardless of whether they come or not.

 

[Ollessendro]

The sale of killa at £2million was the best bit of business done at BDTBL in years.

1. It was an undisclosed fee. I have seen other figures bandied about that were nowhere near this.

2. Selling your best player (for the 4th time in 3 years, I might add) is never a good thing.

Think you've got this one wrong Rev. I appreciate your sentiments, but think that under the circumstances this was a good deal.

Whilst I agree on this principal,

I'd disagree that he is/was our best player.

Also, to get £2 million (approx what we paid) for a player whose contract runs out in 5 months time is very good business.

That's of course if it is £2 million

Robbie gets this spot on. Anything over a million is quite a good price. He only had 5 months left on his contract and hence it makes sense to cash in on him.

Don't get me wrong. I'm upset to lose a quality player. We'll miss him. It's important that we use at least some of the £££ to bring in a few permanent signings. A decent centre is top of the list! iof we sign Seip on a permanent then we need a decent loanee at CB.

 

[Sensiblade]

The sale of killa at £2million was the best bit of business done at BDTBL in years.

1. It was an undisclosed fee. I have seen other figures bandied about that were nowhere near this.

2. Selling your best player (for the 4th time in 3 years, I might add) is never a good thing.

Best player for me at the moment is Ward not Killa

 

[SwissBlade]

Cheers Ollesendro, Didn't realise they counted the attendances like that.

I think you're right that under the circumstances it was a good deal, but why did we allow ourselves to get into such circumstances in the first place.

In a way whether you like killa or not is irrelevant as is the value v what we got for him.

The point for me is that we allowed ourselves to be backed into a corner by a player and his agent.

Good recovery though

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

So how was responsible for getting £400K for Brownie?

 

[Ollessendro]

I think you're right that under the circumstances it was a good deal, but why did we allow ourselves to get into such circumstances in the first place.

In a way whether you like killa or not is irrelevant as is the value v what we got for him.

The point for me is that we allowed ourselves to be backed into a corner by a player and his agent.

Good recovery though

Yes this was a good deal. Take a step back and look at this. We signed him for £1.75 million. We've had 2+ years of very good football from him. He's was instrumental in us having the best defensive record in the Championship last year. Now we are crecouperating the majority of the transfer fee. This of course is very good as he only has 5 months left on his contract.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Good or bad sum, in general I don't like seeing Blades applauding us selling a player that makes us weaker as a team. Will the £2m cover more than Morgan and Quinn's new contracts?

 

[Micalijo]

Hardly, where do you get the 1,000 buying tickets for the Boro game?
I thought there were 23,000 there and Boro hardly brought anyone.
Plus it was on the back of some terrible weather conditions. Talk about knee jerk reaction.

Let see what the attendance will be against Reading and Derby I would say 25,000 and close to 30,000.

What do you mean hardly?

we are meant to have over 20,000 season ticket holders.

Boro brought circa 1,500 in my opinion, meaning less than 2,000 turned up on the day.

Nice try re weather - we'll see what happens in August.

 

[Micalijo]

We have 19000 season ticket holders and you're assuming that all of them turned up.

Its still a poor attendance against what i'd see as a "Big team" in this division.
It was a poor attendance against QPR in the Cup - People said the interest isn't there in the cup

Yet we manage to sell 5000 tickets in quick time to the Cup game v Bolton.

I'd say that its more down to people being too nesh or not been arsed about going to sit for 2 hours in the cold.

As for the subject, its not so much "Well done" but more Well done for recovering some money"

How on earth we never managed to cash in sooner or tie him down to a long term contract (or a contract like Morgs and Quinny with extension options) i'll never know. Do we not learn from the past?

I hope that Clever Trevor is seeing this as a priority so we don't continue to lose decent players for cut prices.

In the end we were lucky that Killa accepted Sunderland's offer as we could very easily have got nothing for him in the summer! And that wouldn't have been very clever

Simple economics Swiss. Vast majority going to Bolton will be season ticket holders imo. Like me, they will be chuffed that it is £10 to get in. Trying to entice a non ST holder to pay £25 plus to watch total garbage is impossible and nowt to do with the weather imo.

 

[DuncDisorderly]

The immenent collapse of our support and our slide into obscurity has been forecast for quite a long time now. e.g. "blah blah, and if the club does/doesn't do* (delete as appropriate) [insert whatever you have a bee in your bonnet about], then the crowds will stay away and we will crash to the Conference in 'N' years (where 'N' = a value inversely proportional to the panic).

Still they come...

Anyway, Killa for anything £1m plus is cracking business. I dont expect Marcel Seip will expect to get £27k a week either...

 

[Micalijo]

The away end was never half full mate, but I would say the weather conditions had more of an effect on the attendances then anything else.

We shall see for Reading and especially Derby.

How many do you think Boro brought then Bob? Definitely half full in my opinion but I'm sure it was between 1,300 and 1,700 and the general point stands that the price is too high for people to pay - even if by some miracle we are now winning at home more regularly.

Are there any offers in play next Tuesday? Needs to be to get anywhere near 25k imo.

 

[Micalijo]

The immenent collapse of our support and our slide into obscurity has been forecast for quite a long time now. e.g. "blah blah, and if the club does/doesn't do* (delete as appropriate) [insert whatever you have a bee in your bonnet about], then the crowds will stay away and we will crash to the Conference in 'N' years (where 'N' = a value inversely proportional to the panic).

Still they come...

Anyway, Killa for anything £1m plus is cracking business. I dont expect Marcel Seip will expect to get £27k a week either...

I'll do a Jim Chim here and annoyingly ask questions in reply. How many do you think paid on the day against Boro and why do think this will increase for future Cat A games. Is it the scintillating performances? Is it the plethora of young exciting prospects we have? Why will people come next season?

I don't for one minute think we will get relegated anytime in near future and I don't think support will collapse. I do think we'll get plenty of sub 20k crowds next season though.

 

[Ollessendro]

Good or bad sum, in general I don't like seeing Blades applauding us selling a player that makes us weaker as a team. Will the £2m cover more than Morgan and Quinn's new contracts?

Look at the contxt Bergen. Sure I'm upset to lose Killa. Personally I am very sorry to see him go. Depending on what KB does in the transfer market this could be the difference between us finishing 4th and 7/8th. I am very worried. Seip looks good and if we can keep him and Morgs fit and free from suspension we stand a good chance of getting in the play offs. It's a big if though and I don't think we have good enough cover.

Don't you understand we are not clapping the decision to sell one of our best players, but the price we got for him. When the talk was of 600k, a price of over £1 million is a good one. Not only that, but in that time we found a decent centre back as a replacement.

I think Kilgallon was class at Championship level and he will be missed. But don't you think that grabbing something in the region of £1-2 million for a player with 5 months left on his contract is good business?

 

[boo radley]

I do think we'll get plenty of sub 20k crowds next season though.

Wow that will be bad in the prem