We are just too nice

[FMBlade1]

That's our problem.

I hate players hounding the referees, on a moral and footballing level. Yet one of the greatest sides of all time Barcelona, under Pep Guardiola, did it all the time to great effect.

If we had caused a scene, especially Wilder, things may have ended up very differently today and force Oliver (who I don't blame) to look at the monitor.

 

[Yoonited]

That's our problem.

I hate players hounding the referees, on a moral and footballing level. Yet one of the greatest sides of all time Barcelona, under Pep Guardiola, did it all the time to great affect.

If we had caused a scene, especially Wilder, things may have ended up very differently today.

We have more class,thankfully.

 

[sitwell]

It will balance out over the season........they said.

 

[YouFUMS]

We have more class,thankfully.

And 2 less points than we should have...great.

 

[Bladesman]

It will balance out over the season........they said.

We are now due a dubious goal at Newcastle and Man Utd.

 

[Barney]

That's our problem.

I hate players hounding the referees, on a moral and footballing level. Yet one of the greatest sides of all time Barcelona, under Pep Guardiola, did it all the time to great effect.

If we had caused a scene, especially Wilder, things may have ended up very differently today and force Oliver (who I don't blame) to look at the monitor.

Well I do blame the referee, he could have looked at VAR and awarded it but didn't have the minerals.

 

[Chabuddy G]

Surrounding the ref would’ve done nothing. The watch didn’t buzz, VAR didn’t for whatever reason overrule it, and the ref is nothing more than a tool to keep the match flowing these days. They don’t make big calls because they’re scared of them being wrong.

 

[riselikeasalmon]

You don’t blame the referee who is paid a handsome wage to make much more difficult decisions than this
One and who has a handsomely paid assistant to help him?

They had 4 eyes on it and ignored what they saw

My dog could referee with a watch and an earpiece

I do blame him and no amount of apologising will make me think he hasn’t abdicated his professional responsibility and he isn’t fit to referee again

 

[BarcaBlade]

the ref is nothing more than a tool

Easy tap in.

 

[Davalon]

Give me Wilder over Warnock attitude any day.

Convinced it will serve us better over all.

 

[Guesty]

It will balance out over the season........they said.

I posted this elsewhere, but every time someone tells you 'it all evens out over the course of a season' I think you should be allowed to punch that person full in the face.

 

[Yoonited]

And 2 less points than we should have...great.

I agree mate but what should we do?

 

[Guesty]

Isn't hounding the ref even more banned than usual under the current coronavirus rules?

 

[BettingBlade]

Give me Wilder over Warnock attitude any day.

Convinced it will serve us better over all.

On this occasion I believe the Warnock attitude is justified.

 

[Liaminho9]

Considering the ball was ‘in play’, our players surrounding the referee could’ve resulted in a mass overload of Villa players running at Henderson

 

[TCsLoveChild]

Given they have admitted blame I wonder if there is a case for suing Hawkeye if this costs us a Euro or Champions League place. UTB

 

[Bladesman]

Given they have admitted blame I wonder if there is a case for suing Hawkeye if this costs us a Euro or Champions League place. UTB

Sue for the loss of end of season prize money.

 

[riselikeasalmon]

I’d like to see Hawkeye release the 7 videos from the cameras they have.

Every angle on sky was pretty conclusive so they are lying

 

[Trafford]

Surrounding the ref would’ve done nothing. The watch didn’t buzz, VAR didn’t for whatever reason overrule it, and the ref is nothing more than a tool to keep the match flowing these days. They don’t make big calls because they’re scared of them being wrong.

I wouldn’t normally condone it but remonstrating would have meant that VAR saw the reaction and maybe thought ‘perhaps I’d better hold up play and have a closer look’.

 

[borg elite]

But that's not how it works is it? VAR monitor every incident and intervene if necessary. Could the ref himself have stopped play at this point and called for VAR? Why is all this so bloody confusing.

Well I do blame the referee, he could have looked at VAR and awarded it but didn't have the minerals.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

That's our problem.

I hate players hounding the referees, on a moral and footballing level. Yet one of the greatest sides of all time Barcelona, under Pep Guardiola, did it all the time to great effect.

If we had caused a scene, especially Wilder, things may have ended up very differently today and force Oliver (who I don't blame) to look at the monitor.

Refs looking at a monitor 2 meteres away would have given the goal to Liverpool

 

[Northyorksblade]

It will balance out over the season........they said.

That's what a Villa fan has just said to me, followed by lots of smilies. He also said Wilder is a moaning git. Of course Dean Smith would have said nothing....

 

[FMBlade1]

Sunrise, sunset.

Wilder has cottoned onto this line of thinking, personally I hope we start surrounding referees and scream at them if it helps us get decisions to go our way.

I also want us to start diving at every opportunity, feigning injury and winding the opposition up to try to get red cards.

The world is how you find it not as you'd like it to be, the game is different and not how it should be sadly. Until/unless that changes we need to change to be the best at it.

 

[S40BLADE]

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Well for me Arsenal have imported the dark arts with Arteta - Peps taught him well on the finer points.

Don't get me started on Xhaka!

UTB

 

[Bladesman]

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Surprised it has taken him this long to cotton on as it isn't just Arsenal who do this.

 

[Bladesman]

Well for me Arsenal have imported the dark arts with Arteta - Peps taught him well on the finer points.

Don't get me started on Xhaka!

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It is also where you buy a free kick. Arsenal know exactly when and where they want to a win a cheap free kick.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

It is also where you buy a free kick. Arsenal know exactly when and where they want to a win a cheap free kick.

Agreed - it's a lesson that we have to learn and take today on the chin.

Man City are good at breaking up play and moving cynical challenges around the team.

For all I know, Arteta may have been the instigator of that at Man City - for sure Arsenal now emply the same tactics.

When Xhaka went down on the far side, Tierney was taken in by it - even the idiot that is Macmanaman said Xhaka was on his way down even before touched. To be fair, our best example is Baldock who seems to use the dark arts very well.

We need to get cuter next season and start practising this season, ready for next.

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[Bladesman]

Agreed - it's a lesson that we have to learn and take today on the chin.

Man City are good at breaking up play and moving cynical challenges around the team.

For all I know, Arteta may have been the instigator of that at Man City - for sure Arsenal now emply the same tactics.

When Xhaka went down on the far side, Tierney was taken in by it - even the idiot that is Macmanaman said Xhaka was on his way down even before touched. To be fair, our best example is Baldock who seems to use the dark arts very well.

We need to get cuter next season and start practising this season, ready for next.

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Baldock seems to be the only one that is switched on to it. That is how we get those free kicks for Norwood to whip in on the right side.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Baldock seems to be the only one that is switched on to it. That is how we get those free kicks for Norwood to whip in on the right side.

Indeed - think back to the penalty v Blackburn at home - prime example - get in front, stop running - foul.

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