Walton

[CopenhagenBlade]

And some are finding it increasingly difficult to even muster the energy to read in the first place.

It's unfortunate but many forums become dominated by the loudest noises from the emptiest vessels and reasoned debate becomes a thing of the past.

It's a shame but in my opinion this forum is a long way down that road with many of the new members gained when BU closed no longer visible.

It is fine to criticise but the lack of anything positive or constructive to say all gets rather tiring. any thread with len is a waste of time reading. I really can't see why he doesn't go back to supporting his local club Leyton orient instead of Sheff U. He is a very boring troll who wore thin a very long time ago on BU

 

[Micalijo]

And that's fine, you're fully entitled to a different opinion.
I said the signing of Walton and it's outcome was symbolic of where we're at and I think that's right. You're fully entitled to think otherwise.
The lack of planning and organisation this summer seems obvious to me but you're fully entitled to think the summer's been well handled.
I think the drop in crowds will be the most obvious sign of our club being badly managed but you're entitled to think it represents something else.
It's a football forum, people have different opinions but I do think that some of this alleged standard of debate stuff is really down to most people being fed up of United at the moment. It's not unusual for people to be in denial about United.

Totally agree - it's very hard to sensibly claim the club is being well managed so the only option other than not posting is to attack - sometimes in very crude and abusive terms, those who do have an opinion that does not accord with what they think support means. This criticisim then gets labelled as a disgrace and the ruination of the forum. I think support means shelling out £400 every Spring - I do it without fail every year and I detest Blackwell and don't trust a word McCabe says - but inspite of all that I still enjoy watching the club, amazing aint it.

 

[SwissBlade]

You'll find Swiss that I was having a go at the club when we signed Walton for reasons that are very obvious given his past history. Nothing to do with attacking Blackwell now he has got injured. I am fed up with watching a side full of has beens that never were and loanees. Unfortunately, it is not as easy to walk away as Jim would like everyone to believe - in fact I can;t believe his opinion that a criticism of Blackwell - however persistent - means that people should stop watching. No chance - I still get plenty of enjoyment out of following SUFC.

Yeah I know that Mic, which I don't have a problem with, except to say - have your opinion, but don't right anyone off too soon. Walton for me was the type of signing that we've done fairly well with in the past. A gamble/ last chance player/ player thats lost his way but we've done pretty well out of these types of players in the recent past (before and during Blackies reign).

What I have an issue with is pointing the finger at Blackie and saying he's useless on the back of Walton getting injured. Surely if you don't like Walton, then you'd be happy he won't be playing.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Someone on BladesUnited did a cracking little skit of Len critiquing his Mrs' housework and tea making capabilities.

Indeed they did

Mrs degoey1: 'What do you want for your tea love ?'
Len: 'I find it embarrassing that you need to ask'
Mrs degoey1: 'Sorry love, egg and chips ?'
Len: 'I can't believe we've been married for 6 years and haven't progressed past egg and chips, it's not rocket science you know'
Mrs degoey1: 'What do you mean love'
Len: 'If you can't see what I mean I'm not going to explain it for you'
Mrs degoey1: 'C'mon Lenny darling, sit yourself down and we'll talk about it'
Len: 'I'm not going to discuss this with someone who quite clearly can't see the bigger picture.'
Mrs degoey1: 'Steak ?'
Len: 'I rest my case'
Mrs degoey1: 'Eh ?'
Len: 'I suggest you think about what I said earlier, I'm not going to repeat myself.'
Mrs degoey: 'God, you're an infuriating bugger at times'
Len: 'Typical, lose an argument and you resort to abuse.'
Mrs degoey: 'I give up. Anyway, Lenny Jr rang earlier, he's decided to leave that job at McDonalds you got for him. He's been offered the managers job at Burger King, twice the money and better prospects.'
Len: 'What ! Why do I bother working day in day out, investing in the lad's future, paying for him to get through school and university for him to treat us like that.'
Mrs degoey1: 'I think you'll find his schooling was paid for with that grant, didn't cost us a penny'
Len: 'Burger King quite clearly had a better advertising campaign, it's not rocket science. We may as well scrap the education system in this country'
Mrs degoey1: 'What are you on about'
Len: 'If you can't see it, I'm not going to explain it to you.'
Mrs degoey1: 'Whatever. Anyway, you always said you wanted him to better himself and that if you'd had your way he would have progressed earlier'
Len: 'Aye, any realist could have seen that.'
Mrs degoey1: 'So, for the last time, what do you want for your tea ?'
Len: 'Them next door are much poorer than us, she can't even cook and I bet they're not having egg and chips'
Mrs degoey1: 'Then go and bloody live with them then!!'
Len: 'That's not the issue here and you know it. I confidently predict that they will get a bigger and better car than us by the end of the year and it's all down to your bad management'
Mrs degoey1: 'WHAT !!'
Len: 'Look, all the sensible minded people can see it, why can't you. It's obvious, and if you take your head out of the sand and see what's actually going on, maybe you can learn from it'
Mrs degoey1: 'WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR YOUR TEA ???'
Len: 'I bet that Neil Warnock's sat there supping tea when he should be out with the players'
Mrs degoey1: 'Jeez !!!!'

 

[lenners]

It is fine to criticise but the lack of anything positive or constructive to say all gets rather tiring. any thread with len is a waste of time reading. I really can't see why he doesn't go back to supporting his local club Leyton orient instead of Sheff U. He is a very boring troll who wore thin a very long time ago on BU

That's a bit weak isn't it. Just smacks of being unable to respond.
Walton was a bad signing with a bad outcome. Criticism where criticism was due.
The summer in general has been badly handled. It was suggested early on by some what was coming and several posters - probably the ones who claim the standard of debate is beneath them - likely scoffed about how early it was and how the window wasn't open yet etc.
Supporting United at the moment is actually what's rather tiring - hence the numbers walking away, not buying season tickets etc.

 

[ChrisBlade]

I think it is all part of McCabe's master plan of trying to get rid of Len. Three or four more seasons of shambolic mismanagement, losing 5,000 season tickets every summer should mean you are no longer there to support us either.

To me that sounds a gamble well worth making...

 

[Fiery Blade]

Waltons record speaks for itself
Left Leeds a Billy Big Boots
Ten clubs and 4 years later......................................................
Bad Signing
We haven't the money to bet on hunches when we are struggling to fund 3 first choice defenders that are missing from the squad!

 

[SwissBlade]

We haven't the money to bet on hunches when we are struggling to fund 3 first choice defenders that are missing from the squad!

Ahh ok, so if we haven't got the money to bet on hunches, does that mean we've got loads to spend on established players...

Perhaps re read some of your other posts Fiery, on one hand you're saying that Blackie fcuks things up with players that have track records (Hendrie, Quinn, Sharp, Evans, Cotterill et al) and on the other you complain when we spend nowt on gambles... incidentally, Cotterill was a gamble, we signed him based on his loan performances, yet he didn't do it the next season. Walton was not a big gamble, he was a season long loan that if he'd have done ok we'd no doubt signed him. If not then we could have shipped him out, either way we had a season to check him out.

Now its just unfortunate that we don't get to see either way.

 

[Fiery Blade]

But I do feel that we need to sign at least 2 First team defenders before the start of the season!!!

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

But I do feel that we need to sign at least 2 First team defenders before the start of the season!!!

As does everyone and signs are that we probably will

 

[Revolution]

Cotterill was a gamble, we signed him based on his loan performances, yet he didn't do it the next season

Without wishing to open this can of worms again, this is not true. For one thing, United's upturn in results that year came at exactly the same time Cotterill was restored to the team (and Sharp dropped), and this was not a coincidence.

 

[SwissBlade]

Cotterill was a gamble, we signed him based on his loan performances, yet he didn't do it the next season

Without wishing to open this can of worms again, this is not true. For one thing, United's upturn in results that year came at exactly the same time Cotterill was restored to the team (and Sharp dropped), and this was not a coincidence.

The point was that we signed him based on an apparently succesful loan spell with us.

 

[Bramley]

And some are finding it increasingly difficult to even muster the energy to read in the first place.

It's unfortunate but many forums become dominated by the loudest noises from the emptiest vessels and reasoned debate becomes a thing of the past.

It's a shame but in my opinion this forum is a long way down that road with many of the new members gained when BU closed no longer visible.

Agreed - it's groundhog day, over and over again on here. I pity Linz and Foxy - do they actually have to read these posts?