Two HUGE positives.......

[Vass Borbokis]

Isn't Olsen an international loan which still leaves 5 spots for domestic loans? Same with the two wingers we went for? Didn't Fulham and Watford have more than five loan players in recent seasons due to them being from Europe.

No mate it's just 5 in total. I knew it was something like that but wasn't 100% sure so just looked it up:

'As per the guidance to Regulation 45.1, the relevant form is Form H4.

54.4 The following restrictions shall apply to Temporary Loan Transfers:

54.4.1 A maximum of 5 Players registered on a Temporary Loan Transfer can be named in the Players listed on a team sheet for any individual match played under the auspices of The League. This maximum shall reduce to 4 Players where a Club names a Player on the team sheet who is registered on an Emergency Goalkeeper Loan;'


The above is for the EFL, premier league has probably got different restrictions (I know it feels like Fulham had a fuck-ton of loans in the prem last year).

 

[metalblade]

No mate it's just 5 in total. I knew it was something like that but wasn't 100% sure so just looked it up:

'As per the guidance to Regulation 45.1, the relevant form is Form H4.

54.4 The following restrictions shall apply to Temporary Loan Transfers:

54.4.1 A maximum of 5 Players registered on a Temporary Loan Transfer can be named in the Players listed on a team sheet for any individual match played under the auspices of The League. This maximum shall reduce to 4 Players where a Club names a Player on the team sheet who is registered on an Emergency Goalkeeper Loan;'


The above is for the EFL, premier league has probably got different restrictions (I know it feels like Fulham had a fuck-ton of loans in the prem last year).

Yeah you are right 5 it is thanks to Watford having 10 on loan a few seasons back virtually the Udinese b team.

 

[benn5712]

Passing this over...................................for this muck !!!

Would you Adam and believe it ?!!

 

[Champagneblade]

In reality we've missed out on one winger.

We've got 4 loans in. You can only have 5 in your match day squad so I believe.
If we got both Collado and Karamoh it means we would have had to leave one of these expensive loans we've just brought in, out of the squad each matchday if all are fit.

I honestly believe Collado was the preferred option, who knows the actual reason why it fell through.

It is frustrating that we left it right up to the wire, but it wouldn't be United if things weren't dealt with in a bizarre fashion. We like to make life hard for ourselves.

The fact that Ndiaye came on against Derby and featured for the U23s (and bagged two), is hopefully a sign that we're giving this lad a chance.
That can be like a new signing right there.

Is it a perfect window? No.
Have we addressed the main concerns (replacing two passengers in midfield, replacing rammers, good quality centre back in)? Yes

One angle to add...you sign Collado and you decrease your opportunities for N'Diaye, not necessarily a winger but another forward / attacking midfielder.

Maybe having him contracted come the end of the season will be seen as a far better outcome. Chances of him signing a deal will be tied to his opportunities I'd imagine.

 

[BigBed]

2 huge positives for me, are hung under Demi Rose Mawby's chin!

 

[Yewsman]

Really hope we can sort out the reported contract issues with N'Diaye and get him in the matchday squad. From watching some of the U23s on YouTube he looks exciting prospect.

The frustrating thing for me (or one of them at any rate) is that we have two strikers in Brewster and McB who have both played in the Championship and have good goal scoring records. McB was over 20 a season at Swansea (he also scored for us in the PL) and Brewster was scoring about 1 every 2 games for Swansea for half a season. This was not a fluke so given the right service, motivation (and importantly) confidence they should be able to do it again for us. Let's hope the "new" midfield can provide a better service and Slav can motivate them.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Whilst it feels a bit shoehorned, quite like the look of a 4231

Berge
Hourihane

Freeman / Brewster?
MGW
Bogle / N'Diyae / Burke

McB / Sharp / Mousset

It at least feels like there's attacking intent, much better than current 352 where your 'creators' are Berge, Baldock, Fleck, Norwood, Osborn/RND

We could play a completely new midfield with the 3-5-2 and who knows how it's going to work.

But, under Wilder we left Wright/Stearman/Egan back to concentrate on the defending. All other players were expected to contribute offensively. Unprepared opposition teams didn't know how to deal with it, players bombing forward from everywhere with great fluency. 9/10 outfield players combining when we attacked.

The overlapping centre halves are gone. Meaning the wingbacks are having to do more unsupported. But both Baldock and RND are steady guys, more than creative flair types. Should we be expecting to create a lot more from wide?

The current midfield 3 have struggled to turn forward, let alone creating chances this season. The opposition teams have been all over them, forcing them to play sideways and backwards. Will the new 3 manage to avoid this? Will SJ even drop Norwood?

And our strikers are not really the creative types either. We've got McGoldrick who likes to link play, but he's had a mediocre start and has never got a lot of assists. McBurnie, Sharp and Brewster all rely on service and movement around them.

To sum up, that's a back 3 most often staying back. 2 wing backs who aren't hugely creative. And 2 strikers who relies on service. Leaving a lot of pressure on the remaining 3 outfield players (the midfielders) to create and open teams up.


So I don't know if 3-5-2 is going to work for us, despite the new midfielders. It might. New players bring new dynamics and we may improve.


If we don't I also think there are 4-2-3-1 combinations which look interesting on paper. It seems to allow us to get more of the creative talent on the pitch at the same time. I think some of those you list may take their chance if given a chance in a set up that's not too influenced by Wilder's style and tactics.

 

[Aston max]

2 huge positives for me, are hung under Demi Rose Mawby's chin!

Funny that mine are usually on her chin

 

[wavy-blade]

All i would do with Burke in training is tell / train him to run down the line with the ball as fast as he can and when he gets to near the line hit the ball in the middle THATS IT , keep it simple , so he knows his job and doesn't get confused with the ball , no fucker will catch him and it might just work !
Mind you we are talking about Burke so owt could happen !

 

[BigBed]

Funny that mine are usually on her chin

Moobs??