Took us until Boxing Day

[programmechap]

...to concede 12 last season. This season we've done it in the first 5 games.

But Wilder was a dinosaur etc etc

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

That might be true, but we weren’t as progressive as we are now

 

[Dellas Cowboys]

But we were less vertical

 

[Lightsoot]

...to concede 12 last season. This season we've done it in the first 5 games.

But Wilder was a dinosaur etc etc

The only applicable etc is that Wilder and HIS squad choked when it mattered.

 

[djbaldken]

The only applicable etc is that Wilder and HIS squad choked when it mattered.

Sorry but that could be applied to just about every manager we've had.
When it matters most over the last fifty years we've choked!

 

[Toronto Blade]

Sorry but that could be applied to just about every manager we've had.
When it matters most over the last fifty years we've choked!

This season we choke every game

 

[radio]

Wilder got critisised for not playing open , expansive, entertaining , attacking football , ,, is it just not a possibility that with his experience ( and that of his coaching staff) they realised that despite having a team with potential flair , if they were all allowed off the leash we would concede too many ,so players had to be held back relying on 1 or 2 goals to win us a game

 

[Maurice Maurice]

The only applicable etc is that Wilder and HIS squad choked when it mattered.

At least we made it to when it mattered, and it mattered at the opposite end of the table to where we find ourselves now.

 

[Blade56]

But we were less vertical

We’re more horizontal

 

[Champagneblade]

Wilder got critisised for not playing open , expansive, entertaining , attacking football , ,, is it just not a possibility that with his experience ( and that of his coaching staff) they realised that despite having a team with potential flair , if they were all allowed off the leash we would concede too many ,so players had to be held back relying on 1 or 2 goals to win us a game

Almost like he knew what he was doing!

Maybe they Board would do well to remember that theory and ideals need to be mixed in with reality and pragmatism.

It wasn’t as if they were likely to come from left field with no experience of running a football club and suddenly show everyone how it should be done.

They’d have to be either arrogant or naive beyond belief. Or both.

 

[ATL Recs]

The only applicable etc is that Wilder and HIS squad choked when it mattered.

Half his squad weren’t his they were loans

 

[Berkshire Blade]

...to concede 12 last season. This season we've done it in the first 5 games.

But Wilder was a dinosaur etc etc

They still are going to peddle this line

They should be completely mocked for it.

Bring back stocks and rotten fruit for them.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Wilder got critisised for not playing open , expansive, entertaining , attacking football , ,, is it just not a possibility that with his experience ( and that of his coaching staff) they realised that despite having a team with potential flair , if they were all allowed off the leash we would concede too many ,so players had to be held back relying on 1 or 2 goals to win us a game

Yep. It's ultimately about controlling games. Last season we controlled about 35. We didn't win them all, but no manager in the world can guarantee that. The job of the manager is to set the players at his disposal up in the most effective way to achieve control of the games and to trust that it'll manifest itself into results more often than not. It's that simple. Luck over a large sample size such as a football season isn't a huge factor (maybe injuries aside).You generally finish where you deserve too in the league table.

This season our control of games has been less than 20 minutes combined (mainly Bristol City). when we should've been building on last season.The manager last season recognised the games we controlled and didn't control; the new manager talks delusionally about being the better side in the pre and post match interviews. That's the really worrying thing: he doesn't have the analytical skills to analyse the matches. Every game is a basketball game at best.

 

[Hobgoblin]

Wilder got critisised for not playing open , expansive, entertaining , attacking football , ,, is it just not a possibility that with his experience ( and that of his coaching staff) they realised that despite having a team with potential flair , if they were all allowed off the leash we would concede too many ,so players had to be held back relying on 1 or 2 goals to win us a game

Absolutely spot on the money

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Well all the forum football sages wanted more goals and more action......

 

[s20Blade]

Wilder got critisised for not playing open , expansive, entertaining , attacking football , ,, is it just not a possibility that with his experience ( and that of his coaching staff) they realised that despite having a team with potential flair , if they were all allowed off the leash we would concede too many ,so players had to be held back relying on 1 or 2 goals to win us a game

Possibly but that was a different team to this. At the moment it looks like he worked wonders getting something of Brooks and Campbell!

 

[Lucky1979]

This season we choke every game

Have to be in it to choke. The very notion of choking a game is that you are in a winning position and fumble it. Like the playoff final and many of wilders games last season that ultimately cost us promotion. This season we’ve not been in contention of choking a game because we’ve just been battered every week

 

[Sheffsteel]

Yep. It's ultimately about controlling games. Last season we controlled about 35. We didn't win them all, but no manager in the world can guarantee that. The job of the manager is to set the players at his disposal up in the most effective way to achieve control of the games and to trust that it'll manifest itself into results more often than not. It's that simple. Luck over a large sample size such as a football season isn't a huge factor (maybe injuries aside).You generally finish where you deserve too in the league table.

This season our control of games has been less than 20 minutes combined (mainly Bristol City). when we should've been building on last season.The manager last season recognised the games we controlled and didn't control; the new manager talks delusionally about being the better side in the pre and post match interviews. That's the really worrying thing: he doesn't have the analytical skills to analyse the matches. Every game is a basketball game at best.

Excellent point….i do remember last season Wilder sometimes commenting about “control” and saying he had concerns in spells of some matches because altho it might have looked entertaining to the fans in the stands, he didn’t want matches turning into open attacking end to end basketball matches.

This season under Selles we’re struggling to create chances and when we’re losing we go more positive pushing more men forward
However when we have numbers upfield we look really open and vulnerable at the back when opposition teams catch us on the break using pace.

 

[Blades1971]

That might be true, but we weren’t as progressive as we are now

What progressing to League 1

 

[CPB]

The only applicable etc is that Wilder and HIS squad choked when it mattered.

It was another nearly season. But nearly being the operative word. A freak season of Leeds and Burnley both breaking 100 points.

And then what ifs in the play off final. (2nd stands), Brooks scores chance, Moore doesn't do a stupid pass.

You can say "choked" but you've got to get into that position in the first place. Which means that you've delivered results by that point already.

 

[radio]

Possibly but that was a different team to this. At the moment it looks like he worked wonders getting something of Brooks and Campbell!

,,,and Burrows ,,,,and Hamer,,,,,,and Peck

 

[metalblade]

It's just the transition that needs tweaking

 

[s20Blade]

,,,and Burrows ,,,,and Hamer,,,,,,and Peck

Be Interesting to see what he does with the new lads