The long throw

[sitwell]

It seems to be a seldom used tactic these days. Of course we used to utilise it all the time with Vinnie Jones and Halford and err Pemberton ,in fact it was one our main attacking options. Although it isn't in the spirit of beautiful football and frowned upon especially in the premier league I have to admit when anyone uses it against us I shit myself. We never seem to be able to handle it and yesterday it happened again. Iceland used it to good effect in the Euros ,and it is very difficult to defend against. Should we use it now and again or not ?

 

[Billyblade]

If we had anyone in the squad capable of pegging it that far, I'm sure the tactic would be adopted without hesitation

 

[Karaoke Blade]

Why not? A lot seem to criticize when we take short corners. What's the difference between a long throw in and a corner? Problem is we don't appear to have the personnel to utilise them.

 

[sitwell]

Why not? A lot seem to criticize when we take short corners. What's the difference between a long throw in and a corner? Problem is we don't appear to have the personnel to utilise them.

I think a long throw is more dangerous than a corner ,due to the trajectory. Another point from yesterday why has Duffy stared taking corners from the left ,Flecks from the right and Coutts from the left have been excellent all season ,Duffys are no where near as good. Think Coutts took 2 yesterday late on ,one was headed away at the near post but the second was a great chance for EEL ,which he managed to head wide.

 

[blade too long]

teams like gills have to utilise the throw as they dont have the skill to try something better
occasionally it comes off
wasnt it stoke who lived on them for a season or two

 

[ashsufc1889]

teams like gills have to utilise the throw as they dont have the skill to try something better
occasionally it comes off
wasnt it stoke who lived on them for a season or two

Stoke most definitely lived on this and the long ball tactic. Rory Delap was the thrower.

At around the same time though, we had Halford. Who IMO was just as good at the throw as Rory.

With the right players it's a very dangerous tactic to have in your arsenal.

 

[ashsufc1889]

Leigh Bromby had a decent throw, but could never get the flat trajectory that Halford could.

 

[Foxy]

It also helps when you are allowed to throw it one handed with one of your feet off the ground

 

[Ricky]

I'd always try to get a long thrower in the squad. We haven't had one since Halford. With Hanson coming in we could be a massive threat from them. Nothing wrong with using it as another option.

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

Once Hanson has signed we can use it!

Who's got a long throw in the team ??

 

[PeteBlade]

It seems to be a seldom used tactic these days. Of course we used to utilise it all the time with Vinnie Jones and Halford and err Pemberton ,in fact it was one our main attacking options. Although it isn't in the spirit of beautiful football and frowned upon especially in the premier league I have to admit when anyone uses it against us I shit myself. We never seem to be able to handle it and yesterday it happened again. Iceland used it to good effect in the Euros ,and it is very difficult to defend against. Should we use it now and again or not ?

I agree, I was terrified every time they got one yesterday as we didn't know how to deal with it.

While I wouldn't want to go back to olden times of relying on it, it would be nice to have in the locker

 

[sitwell]

Once Hanson has signed we can use it!

Who's got a long throw in the team ??

Simon Moore

 

[Roygbiv]

No qualms about using this. Especially if Hanson comes in

 

[Lane Ender]

We are certainly in trouble with long throws especially with our keeper
Moore is poor.

 

[blade too long]

With the right players it's a very dangerous tactic to have in your arsenal.

no Im not an Arsenal fan

 

[sheffielder]

We are certainly in trouble with long throws especially with our keeper
Moore is poor.

He's a concern. I'd be putting under his bar every week. Sooner or later he will punch on in his own net.

 

[Lane Ender]

He's a concern. I'd be putting under his bar every week. Sooner or later he will punch on in his own net.

And everyone went on about Long being poor in the air.
Moore makes Long look like Shilton.

 

[ForgeBlade]

When we had Halford and, to a lesser extent, Bromby I remember thinking that a throw in the final 3rd was as good as a corner. Is it a natural ability that some players have, or is it something that can be learned/trained? If we are signing Hanson as an impact player for later on in games, surely getting someone to work on slinging the ball into the box could be a useful option.

 

[Kenilworth]

No qualms about using this. Especially if Hanson comes in

From an attacking perspective that's clear but also defensively to counteract the opposition doing this to us. Also provides protection for the keeper to deal with it. If your defence doesn't deal with the physicality of players blocking the keeper the long throw is that much more dangerous.

 

[Trigger Blade]

Stoke most definitely lived on this and the long ball tactic. Rory Delap was the thrower.

While Delap was causing mayhem at Stoke, one of his previous managers, possibly Jim Smith at Derby, was asked why he'd never made use of Delap's long throw and his reply was "I didn't know he had one"

 

[ashsufc1889]

While Delap was causing mayhem at Stoke, one of his previous managers, possibly Jim Smith at Derby, was asked why he'd never made use of Delap's long throw and his reply was "I didn't know he had one"

haha, unlucky Jim Smith lol

 

[ashsufc1889]

Both Kyles had decent throws on them too...Maybe something we should be ingrained into our full backs.

 

[ashsufc1889]

When we had Halford and, to a lesser extent, Bromby I remember thinking that a throw in the final 3rd was as good as a corner. Is it a natural ability that some players have, or is it something that can be learned/trained? If we are signing Hanson as an impact player for later on in games, surely getting someone to work on slinging the ball into the box could be a useful option.

I would assume it's mainly about technique. but also some upper body strength would help. I reckon most footballers can do decent throw in, so get them working on their technique in training.

 

[Kenilworth]

I would assume it's mainly about technique. but also some upper body strength would help. I reckon most footballers can do decent throw in, so get them working on their technique in training.

Strong wrists

 

[Deleted member 1486]

Are long throws compatible with our style of play? (a genuine question for any football tacticians).

I imagine they work for teams like Stoke of old, because they were set up defensively and were trying to nick one. The increased threat of a goal surely also correlates with an increase in turnovers. Fine for a team who counterattacks, but isn't this a danger for a team who tries to play possession/attacking football and harries the opposition when they have possession?

 

[Diamondlife]

I agree, I was terrified every time they got one yesterday as we didn't know how to deal with it.

While I wouldn't want to go back to olden times of relying on it, it would be nice to have in the locker

Completely agree with not knowing how to defend the long throw in even though Wilder had said they'd worked on it in the week. There was a game earlier in the season at home where a team all stood on the 18 yard line for corners and then all rushed in at once which had the same effect as we looked scared shitless at every corner. I'd use the long throw and also try that corner routine as well as both seemed very effective against us

 

[ashsufc1889]

Are long throws compatible with our style of play? (a genuine question for any football tacticians).

I imagine they work for teams like Stoke of old, because they were set up defensively and were trying to nick one. The increased threat of a goal surely also correlates with an increase in turnovers. Fine for a team who counterattacks, but isn't this a danger for a team who tries to play possession/attacking football and harries the opposition when they have possession?

Maybe not, but it's always handy to have that extra option. Especially in the last 20mins and we need to score.

 

[JordoBlade]

It seems to be a seldom used tactic these days. Of course we used to utilise it all the time with Vinnie Jones and Halford and err Pemberton ,in fact it was one our main attacking options. Although it isn't in the spirit of beautiful football and frowned upon especially in the premier league I have to admit when anyone uses it against us I shit myself. We never seem to be able to handle it and yesterday it happened again. Iceland used it to good effect in the Euros ,and it is very difficult to defend against. Should we use it now and again or not ?

Add Leigh Bromby to that list.