The DERBY: Fear and the wounded animal

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I won’t talk about us, we know our attitude won’t be in question, our pivotal manager will ensure that players, fans, management team, the board are all entirely United. Absolutely no question, Wilder will have us up for it.

But let’s talk of our opposition. Its been touched on across numerous threads, they’re having an awful season but as Mathew Bell pointed out on his article in the star, the form is the same over the last 9 games.

Briefly, last season they didn’t even know our players, paid no attention to United and expected that the gap would remain as wide as before on 24th Sept. We corrected that perception.

Their players under pressure, not because of their own abject performances, saw fit to mention that our form had disrupted them. Carlos continued and they were unable to put performances in that he’d demanded. They failed to follow his instruction. So Carlos was gone, in classic Wednesday style on Xmas eve. The right move they said. Well that was until he took the Swansea role and all was not as it seemed, he’d played them. GLTTL.

Bullen came in, the desperation was clear, they chanted “ee’s one of our own” however, whilst our “own” was a ball boy, player, fan and then league winning manager last season, Bullen was just a former player, a committed one at that and a decent fella as well, but to cling to him being one of their own was again desperate. There’s an emerging theme.

Now its over to Jos Lukuhay, an experienced manager in Germany, a decent CV, but arriving days before the derby, into a new country, a new working language, a big atmosphere, its forgivable if he appears overawed, an injured owl thrown into the pit of vipers. Hardly the ideal starting point for him.

Today, on the morning of the biggest game of the season for both clubs, I’ve had a number of messages from Wednesday fans that I’ve chatted a lot with over the last 12 months, again a theme
- Pre match excuses
- Justification for not responding tonight
- Their thoughts on tonight – they have lots of injuries and they’ll get stuffed
- What a difference a year makes

I never asked for this, I never sent similar myself despite some awful times in 40 years as a Blade. The fear is in the air, I can smell it through the pollution of the oil fields down here in Basra.

Their fears are justified, we came into Carlos’ dream and turned it into a nightmare, Jordan Rhodes must be wishing he’d taken a kick from 12 yards after all whilst their chance was there to keep in the limelight.

The spotlight has gone elsewhere, Wednesday are rarely talked about positively now, locally or nationally.

It’s a predictable downfall and its being enveloped in fear and desperation. Tonight really is their last chance to rescue something, anything from their season, lose tonight and the double is done, the confidence will be low and even a convincing cup replay victory over Carlisle in front of a sparse crowd in a dilapidated ground won’t be consolation.

When I shot back my opinion of their club, as a football fan, giving both barrels about how Chansiri has ruined their club and will continue to do so I was rubbing it in. It wasn’t the intention, its an opinion, just like I’d give an opinion on Chesterfield.

Back to the pit of vipers, the wounded owl won’t just lay down and die, despite the signs of weakness. The Owl will fight for its life, its got one good wing, its desperate and fearful, but it has nothing to lose. Beware the wounded animal. Unlike the downfall of their club, the wounded animal is unpredictable.

However tonight’s game goes, they enter it with all manner of problems – New CEO with a terrible record with the support base at Charlton, megalomaniac owner with a spending and budgeting issue, huge problems on the pitch, Fans so disconnected with the club that they may as well not bother going, they’re going to need a Wilder type manager to sort this and as good a record that Lukuhay has, he’s not that.

Will even a win be good enough for them? Sadly, yes, I think it would be enough for many of their fans to think “they’re back” even if they put in a Norwich type performance. Jos will be king of the sty.

I don't see a win for them though, yeah they could get a breakaway goal and park the bus, but i don't see it. They don't have it in them, one win over Leeds aside.

We have too much, too much spirit, we're prepared, we're ready, we've recruited. We have so much that they don't.

I’ve never been happier to be a Blade!
 



Excellent post Swiss. Let's respect the 'wounded animal'. Let's not be complacent and over confident. A deflected shot - we've seen them before and it is as you say 'a park the bus' tactic from the away team.

The new manager syndrome is a concern. They've used that card once in the past couple of weeks with Bullen's first game at Forest. Can they repeat it for a second time?

All we can do is turn up and crank up the volume. Best wishes to all Blades.
 
If we were playing a limited team of 6ft 4 battling giants (like Bolton) I’d be more concerned.

Wednesday like to play football, they are just not good at it.
No battlers or leaders in their team.
I really don’t think they have the personnel to try for an “ugly win”, like a Bolton or Norwich.
 
Cracking post Swiss....I feel strange this morning....strange because for as long as I can remember I have felt sick in the weeks/days leading up to a Derby game...the nerves, the trepidation, the fear of losing the possibility of success....all rolled into one and eating away at the pit of my stomach. But apart from the usual pre-match anticipation being turned up a notch I haven't got that usual dreadful ache in my gut..

Unitedites are grounded, we have been disappointed so many times and in my 35 plus years as a Blade we haven't been top-dog in Sheffield for many of them....therefore naturally we fear the "injured owl" and expect that something will happen to rain on our parade and kick us in the bollocks because it has done so many times before...

We have surprised so many people this season but have we really surprised ourselves.....if we are all brutally honest no, we haven't in the slightest because we know what this group of players and our leader are capable of....so don't fear the injured owl, put it out of it's fuckin misery...
 
I won’t talk about us, we know our attitude won’t be in question, our pivotal manager will ensure that players, fans, management team, the board are all entirely United. Absolutely no question, Wilder will have us up for it.

But let’s talk of our opposition. Its been touched on across numerous threads, they’re having an awful season but as Mathew Bell pointed out on his article in the star, the form is the same over the last 9 games.

Briefly, last season they didn’t even know our players, paid no attention to United and expected that the gap would remain as wide as before on 24th Sept. We corrected that perception.

Their players under pressure, not because of their own abject performances, saw fit to mention that our form had disrupted them. Carlos continued and they were unable to put performances in that he’d demanded. They failed to follow his instruction. So Carlos was gone, in classic Wednesday style on Xmas eve. The right move they said. Well that was until he took the Swansea role and all was not as it seemed, he’d played them. GLTTL.

Bullen came in, the desperation was clear, they chanted “ee’s one of our own” however, whilst our “own” was a ball boy, player, fan and then league winning manager last season, Bullen was just a former player, a committed one at that and a decent fella as well, but to cling to him being one of their own was again desperate. There’s an emerging theme.

Now its over to Jos Lukuhay, an experienced manager in Germany, a decent CV, but arriving days before the derby, into a new country, a new working language, a big atmosphere, its forgivable if he appears overawed, an injured owl thrown into the pit of vipers. Hardly the ideal starting point for him.

Today, on the morning of the biggest game of the season for both clubs, I’ve had a number of messages from Wednesday fans that I’ve chatted a lot with over the last 12 months, again a theme
- Pre match excuses
- Justification for not responding tonight
- Their thoughts on tonight – they have lots of injuries and they’ll get stuffed
- What a difference a year makes

I never asked for this, I never sent similar myself despite some awful times in 40 years as a Blade. The fear is in the air, I can smell it through the pollution of the oil fields down here in Basra.

Their fears are justified, we came into Carlos’ dream and turned it into a nightmare, Jordan Rhodes must be wishing he’d taken a kick from 12 yards after all whilst their chance was there to keep in the limelight.

The spotlight has gone elsewhere, Wednesday are rarely talked about positively now, locally or nationally.

It’s a predictable downfall and its being enveloped in fear and desperation. Tonight really is their last chance to rescue something, anything from their season, lose tonight and the double is done, the confidence will be low and even a convincing cup replay victory over Carlisle in front of a sparse crowd in a dilapidated ground won’t be consolation.

When I shot back my opinion of their club, as a football fan, giving both barrels about how Chansiri has ruined their club and will continue to do so I was rubbing it in. It wasn’t the intention, its an opinion, just like I’d give an opinion on Chesterfield.

Back to the pit of vipers, the wounded owl won’t just lay down and die, despite the signs of weakness. The Owl will fight for its life, its got one good wing, its desperate and fearful, but it has nothing to lose. Beware the wounded animal. Unlike the downfall of their club, the wounded animal is unpredictable.

However tonight’s game goes, they enter it with all manner of problems – New CEO with a terrible record with the support base at Charlton, megalomaniac owner with a spending and budgeting issue, huge problems on the pitch, Fans so disconnected with the club that they may as well not bother going, they’re going to need a Wilder type manager to sort this and as good a record that Lukuhay has, he’s not that.

Will even a win be good enough for them? Sadly, yes, I think it would be enough for many of their fans to think “they’re back” even if they put in a Norwich type performance. Jos will be king of the sty.

I don't see a win for them though, yeah they could get a breakaway goal and park the bus, but i don't see it. They don't have it in them, one win over Leeds aside.

We have too much, too much spirit, we're prepared, we're ready, we've recruited. We have so much that they don't.

I’ve never been happier to be a Blade!

Well said Chris !
 
Not my words... stolen from their mainboard....

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Right. I'm posting this here to get it off my chest. Neg away if you want. We are going to get absolutely hammered tonight. This team is overweight and unfit. None of them care. Not one of em has any pride in our shirt. Every single one of them is being paid regardless of the result so it doesn't matter to them what the result is. They lost the last game and nothing changed so they'll not be bothered if it happens again. Even if we went down they wouldn't care cos they will either carry on being paid or move. The only people who tonight affects are the fans. And the players couldn't give 2 shiny sh1ts about any of us.

**If we lose 2 nil I'd see that as a victory**. They could put boxing day to rest tonight if they show up. Seriously, our team is so gutless and spineless and devoid of any sort of spirit. This season has shown us that over and over again.

Before anyone starts with the get to the lane or man up or I hope the players aren't as lily livered as you type crap don't bother. I'm as passionate and dyed in the wool as any poster on here. Season ticket holder and old enough to remember worse than this. I'm just sick of this team. The display against Burton summed up this team. Save a penalty then give em 3 more chances to score. If that carries on tonight we are in trouble. I've accepted that we are gonna be mullered. I'm not even nervous about it, first derby in 44 years that I'm not worried or excited about. That's how low this team has brought me. Not because they lack skill, I've cheered much worse, but because they lack everything a Wednesday team should be.

You may hit that Neg button now, I can afford a few and quite frankly I don't care anymore.

Deep down, amidst all the bravado, all the **painful excuses** they're creating, I like to believe that this one post sums up how they are truly feeling about tonight. I'd be delirious with a 1-0, 90th min OG.. three points and a season's double... but I don't want that... I want us to go out tonight and wipe them off the face of the earth, I want them to dread going to sleep at night for the next 40,50,100 years thinking about 12 January 2018 at BDTBL.. I want them all to remember where they were, who they were with, what they were doing... (though 1-0 would still suffice!!)

 
Apparently, 2 of their main U23 players were left out of their U23 squad today, players called Clare and Penny (no im not joking, 2 girls names :D) - be amazing if they are so dead they are planning to throw kids into the deep in and play them.
 

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