Question For Stat Lovers.

[MunXy]

Who was the last blades midfielder to hit 15 goals in a season, im struggling to remember any.
I thought maybe Paul Devlin might have but could be wrong.
Following this on how long since we had a 25 goal striker in the team?

MunXy

 

[bricktop]

Michael Brown. 2002/03 Season. Scored 20

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Michael Brown. 2002/03 Season. Scored 20

That seals it for me. Munxy is clearly a pig. no self respecting blade wouldn't know that.

 

[bricktop]

In my time of watching the Blades, i've not seen a player have a season where they have played as consistantly well as Michael Brown did, before or since.

That season he was simply sensational, and it was just his goals, his all round play was awesome, and he was a superb footballer, just a shame that he turned in to the nasty, dirty niggly player that he did.

 

[MunXy]

Michael Brown was everything monty is BUT with added bits like being able to pass
I think the shame was he thought after being such a big fish at the lane, when he moved on he became a minnow having to sacrifice everything he had just to get a game.
How many other blades have left us thinking a move to a bigger club meant they would be better players, only to find they left behind a place that revered them in exchange for a new team and fans that barely tolerated them.

MunXy

 

[Longtime Blade]

Kilgallon

Michael Brown was everything monty is BUT with added bits like being able to pass
I think the shame was he thought after being such a big fish at the lane, when he moved on he became a minnow having to sacrifice everything he had just to get a game.
How many other blades have left us thinking a move to a bigger club meant they would be better players, only to find they left behind a place that revered them in exchange for a new team and fans that barely tolerated them.

MunXy

Kilgallon is one.

 

[Bladesman]

In my time of watching the Blades, i've not seen a player have a season where they have played as consistantly well as Michael Brown did, before or since.

That season he was simply sensational, and it was just his goals, his all round play was awesome, and he was a superb footballer, just a shame that he turned in to the nasty, dirty niggly player that he did.

True since he left us and went down south they made him into a dirty twat holding midfield type which isn't even really good at.

He now has ended up with biggest bunch of dirty twats L**ds.

Ashamed that he has ended up at L**ds.

 

[Latters]

Kilgallon is one.

Although not exactly revered, Martin Smith springs to mind. Wasn't he the leading scorer in the country when he left for Huddersfield?

 

[sitwell]

Smith was named 'Son of Pele' by Sunderland fans ,trouble was he believed it. Kazim Richards also springs to mind. Dirty fans I speak to think Brown has been shit so far.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Following this on how long since we had a 25 goal striker in the team?

Keith Edwards in the 1983/1984 season with 34.

Tony Agana scored 24 in 1988/1989.

James Beattie got 22 in 2007/2008.

 

[DuncDisorderly]

Smith was named 'Son of Pele' by Sunderland fans ,trouble was he believed it. Kazim Richards also springs to mind. Dirty fans I speak to think Brown has been shit so far.

Kazim Richards has played Champions League since leaving us and also featured 31 times for the Turkish national side, so not really a slide to oblivion. He was a big headed sod though, I'll give you that...

 

[broomhillblade]

Keith Edwards in the 1983/1984 season with 34.

Tony Agana scored 24 in 1988/1989.

James Beattie got 22 in 2007/2008.

In the 1988/89 season Brian Deane scored 22 league goals.

If you include FA Cup and FL Cup, Agana scored 29 and Deane 30 that season.

Will we ever have a pair of strikers like them again?

 

[Micalijo]

Kazim Richards has played Champions League since leaving us and also featured 31 times for the Turkish national side, so not really a slide to oblivion. He was a big headed sod though, I'll give you that...

Have ever met CKR?

 

[Rodley]

In the 1988/89 season Brian Deane scored 22 league goals.

If you include FA Cup and FL Cup, Agana scored 29 and Deane 30 that season.

Will we ever have a pair of strikers like them again?

They truly were great days. Deane and Agana. Absolute legends the pair of em.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

The problem is, who's going to get 20 this season ? Unless the team are chipping in from all over the place (which I suppose they have thus far) then who's going to be the one to make the difference this season ?

Jury's out on Porter, Cressy maybe but you couldn't guarantee his fitness for the season, not sure Slew will get enough pitch time with everyone else fit, Boggy, no. Makes you wonder if DW is still on the lookout for another striker as he said a couple of few weeks ago.

 

[Darren]

Tagentially, is Tony Kenworthy the top scorer for a defender both in a season (15 League and 16 in all competitions in 1981-82) and over a career (34 League and 36 in all competitions)?

I can't think of anyone who could beat that.

 

[bricktop]

Have ever met CKR?

I met CKR a few times, and found him to be quite the opposite to the big headed sod he was made out to be. He did seem very aloof and arrogant the first couple of times i met him but i think that was more nautral shyness.

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And will we are on the subject i met Steve Kabba a few times as well, and he DID come over as an arrogant, obnoxious knob

 

[Micalijo]

The problem is, who's going to get 20 this season ? Unless the team are chipping in from all over the place (which I suppose they have thus far) then who's going to be the one to make the difference this season ?

Jury's out on Porter, Cressy maybe but you couldn't guarantee his fitness for the season, not sure Slew will get enough pitch time with everyone else fit, Boggy, no. Makes you wonder if DW is still on the lookout for another striker as he said a couple of few weeks ago.

Why is the jury still out on Porter? He's a pathetically slow, injury prone, crock who on his day can finish. We all know this don't we? Hacks me off when we sign a player and people suddenly seem to totally ignore his past career.

 

[davidpinder]

The problem is, who's going to get 20 this season ? Unless the team are chipping in from all over the place (which I suppose they have thus far) then who's going to be the one to make the difference this season ?

Jury's out on Porter, Cressy maybe but you couldn't guarantee his fitness for the season, not sure Slew will get enough pitch time with everyone else fit, Boggy, no. Makes you wonder if DW is still on the lookout for another striker as he said a couple of few weeks ago.

I honestly think if cressy stays injury free he will get 20 goals especially if he is taking penalties as well, there is a good chance we will get 5 of them.

 

[Rodley]

Why is the jury still out on Porter? He's a pathetically slow, injury prone, crock who on his day can finish. We all know this don't we? Hacks me off when we sign a player and people suddenly seem to totally ignore his past career.

Classic. Porter actually has a decent goalscoring record as well.

Presumably a couple of starts is insufficient to judge a player - or is your eagle eye that perceptive Mic?

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Why is the jury still out on Porter? He's a pathetically slow, injury prone, crock who on his day can finish. We all know this don't we? Hacks me off when we sign a player and people suddenly seem to totally ignore his past career.

Because some of us are prepared to give someone a chance by actually seeing them on the pitch

I'll judge him, hopefully, when he's made 10 consecutive starts. Not overly impressed so far but he's quite clearly not fit yet.

 

[Micalijo]

That's ridiculous Jimbo - he will never start 10 consecutive games for us. I'll be amazed if he plays 10 games for us.

I've seen him before, I've read various reports on him, as I have with Collins, and therefore I have an opinion on them already. You totally blank out his past record - fair play.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Something you see a lot of, detailed reports on Chris Porter and Neill Collins

 

[Revolution]

My bet is Porter will have a Henry Camara like career at the Lane. He'll play aobut 15 games, score a few goals, but never be fit for longer than 2 or 3 games.

Why United signed someone with such a terrible injury history given our recent track record with such signings is beyond me.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

That's ridiculous Jimbo - he will never start 10 consecutive games for us. I'll be amazed if he plays 10 games for us.

I've seen him before, I've read various reports on him, as I have with Collins, and therefore I have an opinion on them already. You totally blank out his past record - fair play.

Not blanking out their past records at all but this is a different time and place, see D Wilson (Manager).......

On the 'blanking out records' point, Collins has been part of a promotion winning team in this division, and Porter scored 20 odd goals in this division a couple of years ago, enough for me to give them both a chance.

You may be right about Porter's fitness but it's hardly reason to write him off at this stage.

 

[Darren]

My bet is Porter will have a Henry Camara like career at the Lane. He'll play aobut 15 games, score a few goals, but never be fit for longer than 2 or 3 games.

Why United signed someone with such a terrible injury history given our recent track record with such signings is beyond me.

I expected a response from you on my Kenworthy post

 

[Revolution]

Porter's injury history in recent years:

Porter was new Derby manager Nigel Clough's first signing and joined on a 2½ year deal which took him through until the end of the 2010/11 season. His début came as a 69th minute substitute in a 3–0 win at Plymouth Argyle on February 7, 2009. His first goals for the club came on his 200th career league appearance, as he grabbed a brace on his full home début in a 2–2 draw with Swansea City on March 3, 2009. He grabbed his third four days later, scoring after just 52 seconds against Bristol City in a 2–1 win, but it proved to be his last meaningful contribution of the 2008–09 campaign as a hip injury ruled him out for the remainder of the season. Porter returned to take part in the 2009–10 pre-season, including scoring the winner in a 1–0 win at Burton Albion but aggravated the injury in training in the summer and was ruled out for 9 months after undergoing hip impingement surgery. He returned to the side in a 0–0 draw away to Preston North End on 8 December 2009 and scored his first of the season four days later with the header in a 1–0 win away to Watford, the club's first League away win for 9 months. Porter appeared regularly for Derby through the rest of the campaign as Derby battled relegation, making 10 starts and 12 substitute appearances, scoring three times.

Porter made his first start of the 2010–11 campaign in a League Cup tie away to Crewe Alexandra in August 2010 but picked up another injury. After substitute appearances in the next two games, the hip injury ruled Porter out for the next 3 months before he returned to the side with a series of substitute appearances throughout December 2010.

That's layoffs of 2 months, 3 months and 9 months in the last 3 seasons.

 

[broomhillblade]

I met CKR a few times, and found him to be quite the opposite to the big headed sod he was made out to be. He did seem very aloof and arrogant the first couple of times i met him but i think that was more nautral shyness.

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And will we are on the subject i met Steve Kabba a few times as well, and he DID come over as an arrogant, obnoxious knob

From my experience players are often very different off the field from their on-field persona. Those that are poetry in motion on the pitch sometimes can barely string two words together. (Rooney is a classic example). Some of the dirtiest players on the pitch come across as perfect gentlemen off it. It's as though they have split personalities. Not all of them, of course.

 

[holmfirthblade]

Michael Brown was everything monty is BUT with added bits like being able to pass
I think the shame was he thought after being such a big fish at the lane, when he moved on he became a minnow having to sacrifice everything he had just to get a game.
How many other blades have left us thinking a move to a bigger club meant they would be better players, only to find they left behind a place that revered them in exchange for a new team and fans that barely tolerated them.

MunXy

I think you will find Brown was always dirty and this was why he ended up leaving Man City, the manager at the time Joe Royal! didn't like that side of his game and told him that he would never play for City - Hence the small £500k fee.

 

[bricktop]

From my experience players are often very different off the field from their on-field persona. Those that are poetry in motion on the pitch sometimes can barely string two words together. (Rooney is a classic example). Some of the dirtiest players on the pitch come across as perfect gentlemen off it. It's as though they have split personalities. Not all of them, of course.

Another classic example is Joey Barton, i've been following him on Twitter and for someone who has been jailed for assault, is notorious for being a bit of a thug, a long list of misdemeanours on the football pitch and has had an rough upbringing on a Liverpool council is estate, comes across as being an extremely intelligent, aware of the world around him, and is his twitter feed is refreshingly different to the usual crap footballers post on there.