Paying Woolford Off As Well?

[1danewhitehouse]

Woolford came to us having played 6 seasons in a row in the Championship. He'd been signed a couple of times in the January window and was usually good for 3 or 4 goals a season, and 30 + games. He was 29 when we signed him.

He played 28 times in the League, scoring once (in a defeat). Did he actually have any assists? I can't remember any. It's also difficult to remember any good games from him. His most memorable contribution was his appalling performance against Coventry.

This is a very poor return for someone who isn't that old in footballing terms.

He let himself down last season. We had a right to expect better than what we got.

He got an assist against Bradford crossing for Edgar to score a header. I suspect he will have had a couple more but that's the one that springs to mind.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Depends on his wages, I suppose.

If we've been paying way over the odds for shite, which seems to be the trend, said shite is going to be a bit of a fucker to shift. Partly due to them being out of the price range of suitable clubs, and partly due to them being, well...shite.

The owners should be made to sit in on the final severance deal and watch Woolford's 'highlight reel' on repeat. It'd be payback for all the times we've had to endure his woeful attempts at being a professional footballer, and a reminder to watch what their fucking money goes on.

I reckon he’ll end up back at York who are now in the conference. Think he’d look OK at that level. We’ll have to pay a significant chunk of his contract off though because the clubs that would want him will be able to pay maybe a maximum of half what he’s on now, maybe even a quarter.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

I do hope the next proposed employer of Adkins contacts someone at the Lane for a reference on his tactical , management and transfer acumen.

UTB

Adkins- Hammond, Woolford. (Sammon?)


Clough- Higdon, James Wallace, McEveley, McGahey, Coutts, Alcock, Turner, McCarthy (Sammon?)


Weir- McGinty, McGinn, Johns, Lappin, King, Cuvelier


Wilson- Higginbotham, Forte, Robson, Poleon, O Halloran, Cofie, Westlake, Williams, McMahon


Adams- Collins, Doyle, Mattock


Blackwell- Taylor, Harper, France, Walton, Nosworthy, Simmonsen and Jordan “not a left back” Stewart.


Robson- Hendrie, Carney


Warnock- Seck, Akinbiyi, Horsefield, Boussatta, Cas, Ten Heuvel, Beckett, Hayles, Ward,


Heath- Smeets & Gysbrechts


Bruce- John Cullen & Earl Barrett


Thompson- Ian Hamilton



I’d say Adkins’ legacy of shit is a drop in the ocean compared to what went before.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

It's Martin Woolford.

Relax.

It’s actually Martyn Woolford.

 

[TonyAgana]

I'm kinda with Grappler on this. So, IF we CAN'T unload him, I'd be prepared to give him a clean slate (in terms of a fan-opinion) with a full pre-season under his belt.

 

[TJB.]

Adkins- Hammond, Woolford. (Sammon?)


Clough- Higdon, James Wallace, McEveley, McGahey, Coutts, Alcock, Turner, McCarthy (Sammon?)


Weir- McGinty, McGinn, Johns, Lappin, King, Cuvelier


Wilson- Higginbotham, Forte, Robson, Poleon, O Halloran, Cofie, Westlake, Williams, McMahon


Adams- Collins, Doyle, Mattock


Blackwell- Taylor, Harper, France, Walton, Nosworthy, Simmonsen and Jordan “not a left back” Stewart.


Robson- Hendrie, Carney


Warnock- Seck, Akinbiyi, Horsefield, Boussatta, Cas, Ten Heuvel, Beckett, Hayles, Ward,


Heath- Smeets & Gysbrechts


Bruce- John Cullen & Earl Barrett


Thompson- Ian Hamilton



I’d say Adkins’ legacy of shit is a drop in the ocean compared to what went before.

And on that note...

 

[BushBlade]

Adkins- Hammond, Woolford. (Sammon?)


Clough- Higdon, James Wallace, McEveley, McGahey, Coutts, Alcock, Turner, McCarthy (Sammon?)


Weir- McGinty, McGinn, Johns, Lappin, King, Cuvelier


Wilson- Higginbotham, Forte, Robson, Poleon, O Halloran, Cofie, Westlake, Williams, McMahon


Adams- Collins, Doyle, Mattock


Blackwell- Taylor, Harper, France, Walton, Nosworthy, Simmonsen and Jordan “not a left back” Stewart.


Robson- Hendrie, Carney


Warnock- Seck, Akinbiyi, Horsefield, Boussatta, Cas, Ten Heuvel, Beckett, Hayles, Ward,


Heath- Smeets & Gysbrechts


Bruce- John Cullen & Earl Barrett


Thompson- Ian Hamilton



I’d say Adkins’ legacy of shit is a drop in the ocean compared to what went before.

Didn't you have time to do the full list for Blackwell or were you feeling generous?

 

[BushBlade]

Adkins- Hammond, Woolford. (Sammon?)


Clough- Higdon, James Wallace, McEveley, McGahey, Coutts, Alcock, Turner, McCarthy (Sammon?)


Weir- McGinty, McGinn, Johns, Lappin, King, Cuvelier


Wilson- Higginbotham, Forte, Robson, Poleon, O Halloran, Cofie, Westlake, Williams, McMahon


Adams- Collins, Doyle, Mattock


Blackwell- Taylor, Harper, France, Walton, Nosworthy, Simmonsen and Jordan “not a left back” Stewart.


Robson- Hendrie, Carney


Warnock- Seck, Akinbiyi, Horsefield, Boussatta, Cas, Ten Heuvel, Beckett, Hayles, Ward,


Heath- Smeets & Gysbrechts


Bruce- John Cullen & Earl Barrett


Thompson- Ian Hamilton



I’d say Adkins’ legacy of shit is a drop in the ocean compared to what went before.

Running a club is like paying for a multi media advertising campaign or producing films. Some of the money will be well spent, some of it will be wasted but it's very difficult to separate the two or to quantify which is well spent and which isn't.

Every club gives contracts to kids who don't make it, every club signs players who don't work out. Every club 'wastes' money.
If our owners think we're any different, or that they are different from the other club owners, who themselves are mainly successful businessmen, then that might explain part of the problem.

 

[I should coco]

I think Woolford comes in for unfair stick sometimes. He was past his best, but he did try, he did run, he did shoot, unlike others we had in that team. You never saw him slowly trotting back, when the opposition broke, he actually wanted to go and help.

He wasn't a great player and obviously didn't have a particularly good season but he was nowhere near the worst player we've had at the Lane. I thought he had a great game against Bradford over Xmas and would kick on from there, but sadly that was about his highlight.

He seemed to have lost any pace he may have had and this in turn affected his confidence to get involved, so there were often long periods when the game passed him by.

I think the booing was probably more of a reflection that he was an Adkins signing and so tarred with that brush.

 

[Clarkey87]

Warnock- ......Akinbiyi......

That goal he scored against the scum at their place was worth him being at the club.

 

[I should coco]

That goal he scored against the scum at their place was worth him being at the club.

That goal made him an 'official' Blades Legend and I'm surprised that more of you weren't the star studded celebration.

'Blades Legend' status allows any other faults (like being generally crap), to be overlooked.

If you don't believe me check out the official Blades Legend website:

www.the rightrealproperofficialBladesLegendwebsite.com

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Didn't you have time to do the full list for Blackwell or were you feeling generous?

Bit of both. Just too many to remember and I thought it might be harsh to include all the loans but here’s some more for good measure



Mark Bunn

Paul Connolly

John Halls

Matt Spring

Andrew Davies

Jonathan Fortune

Marcel Seip

Johannes Ertl

Daniel Bogdanovic

Brian Howard

Craig Beattie

Arturo Lupoli

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Running a club is like paying for a multi media advertising campaign or producing films. Some of the money will be well spent, some of it will be wasted but it's very difficult to separate the two or to quantify which is well spent and which isn't.

Every club gives contracts to kids who don't make it, every club signs players who don't work out. Every club 'wastes' money.
If our owners think we're any different, or that they are different from the other club owners, who themselves are mainly successful businessmen, then that might explain part of the problem.

Absolutely. Fans are quick to say managers don’t have a clue in the transfer market when they make a couple of poor signings but it’s damn near impossible to get them all right. I can’t think of a manager who has had value for money with every signing. Some seems to do better than others though. Warnock for example signed Derek Geary, Andy Gray, Neil Shipperly, Stuart McCall, Steve Kabba, Danny Webber, Chris Morgan, Paddy Kenny, David Unsworth, Rob Page, Peter Ndlovu, Alan Quinn, Leigh Bromby, Wayne Allison, Carl Asaba, Paul Peschisolido etc. They represented very good value for money. You’re bound to get the odd Ten Heuvel along the way.


Even Blackwell made some good signings:-


Halford

Sun Jihi

Jamie Ward


(struggling to think of more. Some were good at one time but not consistently over their time with us (Evans, Cresswell, Williamson, Henderson, Yeates etc.).

 

[1danewhitehouse]

He wasn't a great player and obviously didn't have a particularly good season but he was nowhere near the worst player we've had at the Lane. I thought he had a great game against Bradford over Xmas and would kick on from there, but sadly that was about his highlight.

He seemed to have lost any pace he may have had and this in turn affected his confidence to get involved, so there were often long periods when the game passed him by.

I think the booing was probably more of a reflection that he was an Adkins signing and so tarred with that brush.

Just such an enormous downgrade from Jamie Murphy on that left wing. He competed, was positionally reliable, worked hard for the team etc. but that is nowhere near enough for a winger playing in a team supposedly going for promotion. On the ball going forward, he offered very little. I think he beat a full back about 3 times over the course of the whole season.


He’s more acceptable when you’re playing a cup game against higher level opposition looking to keep solid banks of 4. When you need to take the game to the opposition and make something happen, he’s of very little use.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

That goal he scored against the scum at their place was worth him being at the club.

In some ways yeah but overall, I don’t think he could be described as a value for money signing.

 

[Grappler]

Just such an enormous downgrade from Jamie Murphy on that left wing. He competed, was positionally reliable, worked hard for the team etc. but that is nowhere near enough for a winger playing in a team supposedly going for promotion. On the ball going forward, he offered very little. I think he beat a full back about 3 times over the course of the whole season.


He’s more acceptable when you’re playing a cup game against higher level opposition looking to keep solid banks of 4. When you need to take the game to the opposition and make something happen, he’s of very little use.

The point is pal (for me anyway) last year we had players with some skill who didn't want to get stuck in, didn't want to track back or chase down a ball, didn't want to risk taking a crack at goal (Coutts for one), and we had a player like Woolford whose best days are behind him, but still bust a gut trying to to run forward, trying to hit a pass or a shot on goal., trying to run back and cover against a counter attack.

I know he would never be the first pick for a starting 11, and his association with Adkins just went against him as the season wore on, but I would rather have a player like Woolford having a shot on goal, even though it ended up in row Z, than a player like Coutts or Basham, who got to the edge of the box and then panicked, desperate to find someone to offload to.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

It’s actually Martyn Woolford.

CONGRATULATIONS

The ONLY one who passed the test.
Putting the rest on here to shame as usual.

Cap doffed 1danewhitehouse

 

[Fulwood Blade]

The point is pal (for me anyway) last year we had players with some skill who didn't want to get stuck in, didn't want to track back or chase down a ball, didn't want to risk taking a crack at goal (Coutts for one), and we had a player like Woolford whose best days are behind him, but still bust a gut trying to to run forward, trying to hit a pass or a shot on goal., trying to run back and cover against a counter attack.

I know he would never be the first pick for a starting 11, and his association with Adkins just went against him as the season wore on, but I would rather have a player like Woolford having a shot on goal, even though it ended up in row Z, than a player like Coutts or Basham, who got to the edge of the box and then panicked, desperate to find someone to offload to.

excellent post - makes a change for someone actually see the merits in a player instead of just spouting.....crap, c**t, tw@t etc.

UTB

 

[Clarkey87]

In some ways yeah but overall, I don’t think he could be described as a value for money signing.

I agree - he wasn't

 

[1danewhitehouse]

The point is pal (for me anyway) last year we had players with some skill who didn't want to get stuck in, didn't want to track back or chase down a ball, didn't want to risk taking a crack at goal (Coutts for one), and we had a player like Woolford whose best days are behind him, but still bust a gut trying to to run forward, trying to hit a pass or a shot on goal., trying to run back and cover against a counter attack.

I know he would never be the first pick for a starting 11, and his association with Adkins just went against him as the season wore on, but I would rather have a player like Woolford having a shot on goal, even though it ended up in row Z, than a player like Coutts or Basham, who got to the edge of the box and then panicked, desperate to find someone to offload to.

I largely agree though I'm much happier with Basham starting in CM than Woolford outwide as being compative, hardworking and disciplined is probably enough from one of your centre mids. It's not enough for your winger but I agree about his attitude etc. He's just not good enough.

 

[Keen Blade]

Basham as CM ? No way ! He is cover for CB & RB. He is about as far removed from what CW wants (or SAYS that he wants) in a CM as it is possible to be. He is tall but doesn't impose himself in the middle. He is a jolly nice chap who you would trust with your teenage daughter, but that's no good to us in CM in a tough league. He never knows what to do with the ball once he strays over the halfway line. He never cuts open a defence with a killer pass. He can't shoot for toffee. In short , he is no threat to the opposition. The thought of him and Scougall in a 2 man midfield fills me with dread. Heavy defeats to be expected from a complete capitulation in CM ! It is just as crucial for CW to recruit a fast and feisty CM as it is to get a CB to partner Basham at CB.
Jagielka always flattered to deceive in CM , but Warnock always said he was an England CB and Warnock was proved correct.
I promise you we will never get promoted with Basham and Scougall in MF - far too weak and meek.
And if Coutts ends up there , relegation is more likely.

 

[Hodgyman]

God Adkins brought in some absolute crap....I would love to see Woolford out the door....he was terrible.

I don't think that he was as good as that