One potential fan never to return

[the magic man]

Ne'er mind all that. Last time I went to Chelsea some bloke called me a "cad" and a "bounder"!

Did you get your man Perkins to give him a damn good thrashing?

 

[Jehovah]

Deae mr whats wrong with you? I have classed them as chavs because funnily enough thats what they looked like to me. Their language and attitude during the game only certified this view. Did you see them? obviously not, therefore your argument is pointless. Also with reference to your joke remak of "this 53 year old" as I say, I am not getting into a fight with an old man.

Whats up with me ?nothing I am not the one getting so exicited /giddy that I cant type .
Joke remak(?) ,wheres the joke ,I am 53 ,and apparently have more going for me than some young pup who can dish out the "dickhead" remarks but cant take any suggestion that he may be a little weak.

Again you have lost me here. I am sorry you dont see my point, I think it was quite simple.

1. Moving a single row behind the lads who took my seat does not make me weak, I saw no problem with this and have stated it is common practise.
2. The old guy ( a reference relative to my own age and not meant to offend anyone of such age) should have shown more manners.
3. The language around us was totally unacceptable no mate what spin you put on it.

I am not sre why these points are hard for you to understnd and why you felt the need to be a di....funny about it.

 

[Slugger]

I took my 2 young lads (6 and 9 at the time) to their 1st home league match last year vs Barnsley. They'd been to the cup match v Hull the year before. On both occasions I had to think long and hard about where to get tickets. I decided to go in the Kop to show them where I stood and sat for years and to let them experience (in my opinion) the best atmosphere.

No regretsThe language was wild at times especially directed at Barnsley and Hume. There was 1 minor skirmish a few rows away but the atmosphere and full Kop experience has had nothing but a positive affect on them (i.e. they're still Blades here living in wild rural Ireland amongst plastic premiership "fans"). All (100%) of their school mates follow either ManU, Liverpool, Chelsea or Arsenal but because and not in spite of their experience of the Kop they are loyal Blades with all the teasing that provokes.

I had asked for advise on this on this forum and got a great message from a regular poster here telling me to give them "the experience". Cheers for the advice ... it worked!

They don't remember the chants about incestuous Dingles. They do remember seeing their heroes in the flesh.

(Not meant as a jibe at Jehovah. You and your missus have every right to be offended)

 

[muttsnuts]

Again you have lost me here. I am sorry you dont see my point, I think it was quite simple.

1. Moving a single row behind the lads who took my seat does not make me weak, I saw no problem with this and have stated it is common practise.
2. The old guy ( a reference relative to my own age and not meant to offend anyone of such age) should have shown more manners.
3. The language around us was totally unacceptable no mate what spin you put on it.

I am not sre why these points are hard for you to understnd and why you felt the need to be a di....funny about it.

About time this was put to bed now!! I agree with Jehovah (although he should have given the old guy a gobfull) Why when sat on the kop, or anywhere for that matter do people think they have the right to swear etc. A woman sits in front and to the side of me on the kop, i wouldn't dream of swearing (sometimes the odd bugger/bloody). I just think it is a reflection on todays society and most youths in general - end of.

 

[Yossarian]

Not end of. I'm curious about this whole concept of what constitutes 'bad language'. Why is one word worse than another? Why are people making a big deal of being "offended"? You do realise that when you are offended, it doesn't cause actual pain? No broken bones, no ripped flesh, not even any chapped lips. If swearing offends you, you know what I say? Fuck you.

Interesting also that these two magic words that are the worst, 'fuck' and 'cunt', one word that literally describes the physical act of two people having sex - the (sometimes) most meaningful and loving thing that two people can do together - and the other word a part of the female anatomy (as if that is the worst thing in the world). We're not allowed to say these two words, but we can say 'murder', 'rape', 'genocide', 'slavery'....

 

[Rustyblade]

....and some can even write Wednesday without asterisks.

 

[muttsnuts]

Not end of. I'm curious about this whole concept of what constitutes 'bad language'. Why is one word worse than another? Why are people making a big deal of being "offended"? You do realise that when you are offended, it doesn't cause actual pain? No broken bones, no ripped flesh, not even any chapped lips. If swearing offends you, you know what I say? Fuck you.

Interesting also that these two magic words that are the worst, 'fuck' and 'cunt', one word that literally describes the physical act of two people having sex - the (sometimes) most meaningful and loving thing that two people can do together - and the other word a part of the female anatomy (as if that is the worst thing in the world). We're not allowed to say these two words, but we can say 'murder', 'rape', 'genocide', 'slavery'....

You might fuck, but i make luurv...... end of!!

 

[SwissBlade]

....and some can even write Wednesday without asterisks.

Its funny because people frown upon me when I say I'm taking my dog out for a shite, but when I say i'm taking her out for a Wednesday, its fine

 

[Grecian2000]

Its funny because people frown upon me when I say I'm taking my dog out for a shite, but when I say i'm taking her out for a Wednesday, its fine

I have had several dogs over the years (all of which bar the current one have died without any condolences from any of you heartless bastards) and they have always gone for a "Hirsty".
This only changes if the stools are particularly runny and unpleasant in which case it retrospectively becomes a "Carlton".

 

[Nick Jansky]

I have had several dogs over the years (all of which bar the current one have died without any condolences from any of you heartless bastards) and they have always gone for a "Hirsty".
This only changes if the stools are particularly runny and unpleasant in which case it retrospectively becomes a "Carlton".

Reminds me of the old joke about the lass going to the doctors and saying that her & her boyfriend want to try anal sex, is it safe from a health point of view? The doc says it is fine as long as the boyfriend is gentle and they use plenty of lubrication. "But make sure you use protection" he says, "you don't want to get pregnant." "I didn't know you could get pregnant from anal sex!" replies the lass. "Of course you can" responds the doc. "Where do you think Wednesdayites come from?"

 

[broomhillblade]

I recall when my dad first took me to Bramall Lane when I was nine, he moved me away from some people at the Bramall Lane end who were apparently using bad language (I hadn't noticed). It was so easy then when there were no seats. You could meet your friends, or at least find an area with people whose company you were comfortable with.

Moving forward several decades, and to all-seater stadia, I didn't go to many away games since the atmosphere was often manic, with pissed-up fans out of their tiny minds screaming and yelling. OK for some, but I'd come to see (and hopefully enjoy) a football match.

However, I did go to White Hart Lane a few years back for an evening match when I was working in London. I got there quite early and endured the warm-up by Chas & Dave, and then a group of young people arrived to sit around me - men in smart suits and women well dressed, having presumably come direct from their offices. "Good" I thought, "I'm amongst a good crowd tonight - I can enjoy the game". How wrong I was!

As soon as the teams and officials emerged from the tunnel, an attractive and beautifully-dressed woman next to me started up, venting her fury at the officials: "You f***ing C***s" etc. etc. She kept this up for the first few minutes until several of the menfolk turned round and asked her to moderate her language. It all goes to show you can't judge a book by its cover.

 

[BarcaBlade]

Bring back terracing

---------- Post added at 01:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:32 PM ----------

Not end of. I'm curious about this whole concept of what constitutes 'bad language'. Why is one word worse than another? Why are people making a big deal of being "offended"? You do realise that when you are offended, it doesn't cause actual pain? No broken bones, no ripped flesh, not even any chapped lips. If swearing offends you, you know what I say? Fuck you.

Interesting also that these two magic words that are the worst, 'fuck' and 'cunt', one word that literally describes the physical act of two people having sex - the (sometimes) most meaningful and loving thing that two people can do together - and the other word a part of the female anatomy (as if that is the worst thing in the world). We're not allowed to say these two words, but we can say 'murder', 'rape', 'genocide', 'slavery'....

For anyone who has the time or inclination - warning: contains multi-syllable words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BcdY_wSklo&feature=youtu.be&a

 

[Rattly Noise]

About time this was put to bed now!! I agree with Jehovah (although he should have given the old guy a gobfull) Why when sat on the kop, or anywhere for that matter do people think they have the right to swear etc. A woman sits in front and to the side of me on the kop, i wouldn't dream of swearing (sometimes the odd bugger/bloody). I just think it is a reflection on todays society and most youths in general - end of.

I agree. Let's get this straight. We're not talking about the odd bit of feffing & jeffing, this is about offensive and sick ranting & chanting.

People have always been ignorant. It crosses all ages and classes. Personally I'm able to moderate my behaviour to suit the environment, but many people see excessive swearing as being quite normal and genuinely can't understand why others might be offended. Whether that's as a result of nature or nurture is a matter for discussion, but an inability to empathise with other human beings is something that's sadly lacking in much of society today.

All part of the rich tapestry of life, but doesn't make it right and never will.

 

[TheSwollengland]

The first match I go to and cant eff and jeff at will be my last ,I appreciate the fact that racism etc is a no no but like I have said the day I cant shout at Nosworthy ,something like "come and sit up here with me you twat ,you`ll do less damage " is the day I hang up my scarf and bobble hat.

 

[Slugger]

I've no problem with fucks and cunts etc and next time I take the kids would still choose the Kop for the overall experience. At the Barnsley match the "shag your mother" jibes were a bit "not for kids' ears" but even that I could cope with as my lads were more interested in the game; shit as it was.

The one thing I think would force me to take them somewhere else would be racist chants. Thankfully one of the many things that makes me proud to be a Blade is the almost complete absence of that at the Lane. In fact the lack of it around the city is refreshing (compared to other cities). I remember seeing Bomber Graham batter Derby's John Ashton at the City Hall and a group of Derby lads being "sorted out" by a few from Sheffield for their racist chants during an undercard fight between an English lad who the entire hall was supporting and an Argentine. The Sheffield crew rounded on the Derby lot for their chants against the Argie!

Back to the Lane the only regular racist chant I remember was around about 1988/89 when a few of us used to stand on the Kop. Nearby there was sometimes a lad who obviously suffered from Tourettes. He used to chant Deano Deano at the top of his voice and as soon as the chants died down we'd hear a "black bastard" from him as he did a Tourettes twitch !!