Ok all you who said you could do better than our scouts, here’s your chance.

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Never mind recruitment. Appoint someone to look at the first team squad. Plenty of dead wood there. You don't need experience or qualifications for that role. It's plain for everyone to see, except professional recruitment bods and the coaches.
God knows what Phil Jones thinks of it all. When ordainery people can see the problem why can't these professionals?
 



Saw last night that Luton had made changes to their recruitment department, including Jay (ex-Bladespod) leaving his senior role there. Gerrim in, in place of Jamie Hoyland and anyone else that's actually employed?!
Is Mike Allen still our head of recruitment? If so the guys pinching money
 
Or maybe he’s operating within the constraints of a very limited market that’s being dictated to him.
I'm not sure Allen/Hoyland had anything to do with Rothwell, BBD, Choudhury, Riedewald, Ayew etc?

If any of our scouts/recruitment guys had watched them fot their last clubs, then we would not have gone near them. Wilder clearly liked them from previous history (not recent).

So whoever they are identifying, Wilder is either ignoring them or they are failing to convince him they are good signings.

I'd love our recruitment to be identifying young talent from the akin to Stevens, Baldock, O Connell etc but sadly this is ab approach we seem to have binned, going for experience or people known. Its a strategy that would expect instant success but has not worked.

In terms of Allen/Hoyland, after the low cost dabbles in AI that of course did not work, they were back involved identifying signings after our bad start.

Last August we signed Matos, McGuinness, Godfrey, Mee, Ings, Chong. Every single one been dreadful with most binned off already.

None of these will be on cheap wages nor will those signed this summer/recently. Im not sure the constraints argument washes when we have a top 10 wage bill.

We just seem incapable of identifying new talent or have chosen to go down the retreads of players but when your manager limits your recruitment to 4% of the footballers innthe works, suppose that limits us?

I think its fair to ask questions against the recruitment team as our transfers havr been largely disastrous last 18 months. Cannon being a symbol of this but its been (Wilder essentially employed Allen/Hoyland which I did not like but Bettis once again will have deferred to him with no other senior football figures to make proper appointments not just the managers pals).
 
I'm not sure Allen/Hoyland had anything to do with Rothwell, BBD, Choudhury, Riedewald, Ayew etc?

If any of our scouts/recruitment guys had watched them fot their last clubs, then we would not have gone near them. Wilder clearly liked them from previous history (not recent).

So whoever they are identifying, Wilder is either ignoring them or they are failing to convince him they are good signings.

I'd love our recruitment to be identifying young talent from the akin to Stevens, Baldock, O Connell etc but sadly this is ab approach we seem to have binned, going for experience or people known. Its a strategy that would expect instant success but has not worked.

In terms of Allen/Hoyland, after the low cost dabbles in AI that of course did not work, they were back involved identifying signings after our bad start.

Last August we signed Matos, McGuinness, Godfrey, Mee, Ings, Chong. Every single one been dreadful with most binned off already.

None of these will be on cheap wages nor will those signed this summer/recently. Im not sure the constraints argument washes when we have a top 10 wage bill.

We just seem incapable of identifying new talent or have chosen to go down the retreads of players but when your manager limits your recruitment to 4% of the footballers innthe works, suppose that limits us?

I think its fair to ask questions against the recruitment team as our transfers havr been largely disastrous last 18 months. Cannon being a symbol of this but its been (Wilder essentially employed Allen/Hoyland which I did not like but Bettis once again will have deferred to him with no other senior football figures to make proper appointments not just the managers pals).
I agree with all of this. But if they are being limited and constrained as I think is the case, the majority of the blame clearly lies elsewhere.
 
I'd love our recruitment to be identifying young talent from the akin to Stevens, Baldock, O Connell etc but sadly this is ab approach we seem to have binned, going for experience or people known. Its a strategy that would expect instant success but has not worked.

In terms of Allen/Hoyland, after the low cost dabbles in AI that of course did not work, they were back involved identifying signings after our bad start.

Last August we signed Matos, McGuinness, Godfrey, Mee, Ings, Chong. Every single one been dreadful with most binned off already.

None of these will be on cheap wages nor will those signed this summer/recently. Im not sure the constraints argument washes when we have a top 10 wage bill.

We just seem incapable of identifying new talent or have chosen to go down the retreads of players but when your manager limits your recruitment to 4% of the footballers innthe works, suppose that limits us?

I think its fair to ask questions against the recruitment team as our transfers havr been largely disastrous last 18 months. Cannon being a symbol of this but its been (Wilder essentially employed Allen/Hoyland which I did not like but Bettis once again will have deferred to him with no other senior football figures to make proper appointments not just the managers pals).
Our scouting seemed to get worse when Paul Mitchell was ill and then when he left.
 
We should apply for this collectively as 'The Forum' and have threads on all prospective players, lets be the first club in the world run by committee, nothing else seems to work.
 
Simon Clough was well travelled, mostly to Scotland and Blackpool via the Derby treatment table. Always wondered if he had a couple of mistresses in those locations with the 'scouting' cover for escaping his newsagents?
 

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