Not worried at all after that

[s4-blade]

We’ve gone there with a specific game plan, tried to be too clever, it’s not worked and it’s looked shit. Absolutely we’ve made a mistake, but that’ll get put away now and we won’t try it again (hopefully anyway).

On the other hand they looked pretty shakey in all truth. Too reliant on individual moments and absolutely there to be got at. If we play our own game in the reverse fixture we’ll beat them, and I’m confident they’ll lose comfortably more games than we will this season.

Is what it is, onwards we go.

 

[Slim Man]

It looked very shit. Very shit indeed.

 

[s4-blade]

It looked very shit. Very shit indeed.

It’s gonna happen over the course of a 46 game season though. Put that game plan in a box and fuck it off down the river don and we’ll be absolutely fine. And comfortably above Leeds.

 

[Slim Man]

It’s gonna happen over the course of a 46 game season though. Put that game plan in a box and fuck it off down the river don and we’ll be absolutely fine. And comfortably above Leeds.

Leeds will finish above us. At a canter.

 

[s4-blade]

Leeds will finish above us. At a canter.

Not on that evidence. Return to this at the end of the season

 

[AlienWoodward]

Let's have some perspective here.

Many of our squad, management and the whole backroom staff lost a very dear friend just nine days ago.
Some of them wouldn't have had their heads in the right place and you could tell CW was certainly struggling.

In the return we will beat them.
Leeds will do well to finish above us.
Ok tomorrow we'll drop a couple of places after Saturdays fixtures,but in the grand scheme of things we've had more costly defeats than this one.

UTB

 

[toledo]

It's the manner of defeat and percieved tactical change needs that concerns every one.... we've seen it before.

I was blown away when I saw the line up and I knew we would not win. There was NO forward progression imbedded on the team selection, that is a serious issue to fix and it needs fixing now before it becomes our every game approach.

 

[Younger Dryas Blade]

I'm worried that the only unbeaten team in the league went into the lions den with a plan of mercy and surrender.

Wilder albeit looking like he's got us turned around is not as impervious to criticism as he was 4 years ago. Tonight he got it all wrong, his presser gave it away, he bowed down and got what he deserved.

I would have taken a 3-2 defeat going at it hell for leather than just lying down, trying to cling to a 0-0.

 

[Brewster Cost £70 million]

how many shots did Leeds sky over the bar

 

[Proper Blade]

Even if we do manage to go up, it'll basically be like this every single week. Brave 2-0 defeats the highlight of our season. May as well get used to it.

 

[Slug]

We’ve gone there with a specific game plan, tried to be too clever, it’s not worked and it’s looked shit. Absolutely we’ve made a mistake, but that’ll get put away now and we won’t try it again (hopefully anyway).

On the other hand they looked pretty shakey in all truth. Too reliant on individual moments and absolutely there to be got at. If we play our own game in the reverse fixture we’ll beat them, and I’m confident they’ll lose comfortably more games than we will this season.

Is what it is, onwards we go.

They looked pretty shaky....we knew this before, especially their two full backs. We didn't run at Bogle/Firpo once all game or turn them round.

Absolute brain fart from Wilder with the team selection and tactics. Showed them far too much respect, we didn't go to Chelsea/Spurs/Arsenal in that first prem season and shit ourselves like that.

 

[JJ Sefton]

We’ve gone there with a specific game plan, tried to be too clever, it’s not worked and it’s looked shit. Absolutely we’ve made a mistake, but that’ll get put away now and we won’t try it again (hopefully anyway).

On the other hand they looked pretty shakey in all truth. Too reliant on individual moments and absolutely there to be got at. If we play our own game in the reverse fixture we’ll beat them, and I’m confident they’ll lose comfortably more games than we will this season.

Is what it is, onwards we go.

I’m shittin’ mi sen.

 

[Brewster Cost £70 million]

if we had some service and not Moore up front Leeds were there to be got at unfortunately i feel like Moore with service would score once maybe twice every 15 games

 

[Houston_Blade]

It's the manner of defeat and percieved tactical change needs that concerns every one.... we've seen it before.

I was blown away when I saw the line up and I knew we would not win. There was NO forward progression imbedded on the team selection, that is a serious issue to fix and it needs fixing now before it becomes our every game approach.

My concern is that Wilder can’t deal with these ‘occasion’ type games any more where we’re playing teams and managers that he really wants to beat. He’s tried too hard to mitigate Leeds and it’s completely backfired.

Hopefully he doesn’t shit the bed against Burnley and the other better teams in the league as well.

 

[Matlock Blade]

When me and and my son saw the team news before the match we both thought we'd lose. Wilder basically told Leeds we are scared of them. Wilder should have played our winning team.

 

[riselikeasalmon]

Agree about us, we’ll learn from this.

Don’t agree about them, there aren’t enough teams that will be able to stop them playing and give them something to worry about.

 

[CornwallBlade]

if we had some service and not Moore up front Leeds were there to be got at unfortunately i feel like Moore with service would score once maybe twice every 15 games

He’s McBurnie all over. again. (and I don’t care what he’s doing in Spain - he was cack for us) Great defensive headers when defending in our box. Absolutely nothing else to show beyond that.

 

[Weasel]

Absolutely no one, I repeat no one, in the Championship, is so good that SUFC need to change their tactics to a containment hold on strategy. Every club is in the Championship for a reason I.e they aren't good enough yet to be in the PL. If a formation and set of tactics are working really well for us (and clearly we have one in place already as we were joint top), then for God's sake don't go somewhere in the Championship and change it to try to appease and contain. It's way too negative. We aren't playing City or Arsenal here. Go be yourself, think fuck you, and let them worry about us.

Before the match their fans where shitting bricks about us. Wilder went there and waved the white flag with that formation change as it completely changed the dynamics of our team on the night. No outlet. No pace up top. Moore isolated. Midfield struggling to find an out ball to get us up the pitch so that we could build an attack. It all just invited pressure on to our defence all night. It was all wrong on the night and even then, Leeds didn't capitalise and we managed to get to HT where we could have switched back to our usual formation, made subs and gone for it. We didn't, we didn't fix a problem staring us in the face and which was our own doing (or Wilder's to be precise) and we / CW got what we deserved on the night. Way, way too negative. Just be us, play to our strengths, change personnel as and when necessary to freshen up the side, but stick with the winning formation set up.

Wilder has form for overthinking things from time to time after he's had extra time. We were always shit after international breaks and there was a pattern in recent years. It's one game, but highly disappointing that we didn't get chance to show em our A game. But what is done is done, and we move on now. There should and must be learnings taken from that, and for every game for the rest of the season, we should play our formation and best side, and let others worry about us. As much as I like CW he isn't impervious to valid criticism when it's justified. Last night's criticism for CW is totally justified and he self harmed the team by tinkering and it backfired. He's still the right man for us though, he just needs to stop thinking he's the next Pep from time to time.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

It's only worrying for our prospects if Wilder plans on inhibiting the team's capabilities like that on a regular basis

Last night he didn't give us a chance to play properly and as a result an inaccurate picture was presented. Leeds were made to look comfortably superior to us, which they aren't - certainly with their current injuries. Yet Wilder insisted on treating them like Man City and he should be quite embarrassed about it

Last night must be used as the 'what not to do' template. There is no excuse for us approaching any game like that in this division

 

[blader]

Really???

It’s the first time this whole season I’ve started to doubt Wilder is actually the right man to get us out of this division. Until now we have been so solid, resilient and tweaked our game home and away to really good effect.

I was absolutely raging last night. And I’ve woken up even more so. What the f*** was that?

The starting line up was rank. After 30 mins it was obvious he had to change it. He left it to 60 and then my top absolutely blew off with those 3 subs.

Absolutely pathetic, and if that’s how he will approach big games then forget any success this season because there’s no chance. It equally makes me fearful for the derby now too.

I’m absolutely spitting feathers with what he did last night genuinely - and I had to watch the game with a fucking Leeds fan

 

[Slim Man]

Not on that evidence. Return to this at the end of the season

Our own manager has clearly admitted he thinks they’re much better than us given how we lined up and rolled over for them.

It was pathetic.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

I’m not worried but it does tell me where we are. It started with the change of shape, which invited them onto us. Showed them too much respect and allowed their full backs to kick on and support the likes of Gnonto and Ramazani, totally overloading us. Wilder got that totally wrong.

Aside from that key players just didn’t turn up. That happens, I’m not going to cry about it. Arblaster had his first poor game (he’s young), Burrows and Hamer weren’t at their best. Leeds were far more at it than us and the shape we were in just made us too one dimensional, meant that our wing backs had to spend the whole game chasing back.

The scoreline was a fair reflection and confirmed some fears I have about our lack of depth or ability to adapt in more difficult games. I’m yet to be convinced by O’Hare as well. I can see he has some ability but for all the excitement about him I’m not seeing how he influences games from that 10 position. Moore was stranded up there and needs someone with a bit more pace or presence behind him. I’ll give O’Hare some time but I’m not sold just yet. I want a lot more from him and less dependence on the partnership with Hamer.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Oh

I’m not worried but it does tell me where we are. It started with the change of shape, which invited them onto us. Showed them too much respect and allowed their full backs to kick on and support the likes of Gnonto and Ramazani, totally overloading us. Wilder got that totally wrong.

Aside from that key players just didn’t turn up. That happens, I’m not going to cry about it. Arblaster had his first poor game (he’s young), Burrows and Hamer weren’t at their best. Leeds were far more at it than us and the shape we were in just made us too one dimensional, meant that our wing backs had to spend the whole game chasing back.

The scoreline was a fair reflection and confirmed some fears I have about our lack of depth or ability to adapt in more difficult games. I’m yet to be convinced by O’Hare as well. I can see he has some ability but for all the excitement about him I’m not seeing how he influences games from that 10 position. Moore was stranded up there and needs someone with a bit more pace or presence behind him. I’ll give O’Hare some time but I’m not sold just yet. I want a lot more from him and less dependence on the partnership with Hamer.

Fair assessment from me, this.

I think we looked like exactly what we were. A side that invested what it has on GK and defence, has some quality in CM but lacks depth, and hasn't invested up front. We look like far from the finished article. I mean, how many of our current squad are in their prime?

I think we look like quality individuals that are yet to gel into a seamless squad of pals, teammates on the same wave length. Don't forget how long we had Billy, Bash, Norwood, Baldock, Enda, Fleck. They knew the system, and one another. Now, Gilchrist, Souttar, Rak-Sakyi, O'Hare, Hamer, Burrows. There's undoubtedly quality there but they are still individuals, new to one another. We also lack depth, and it shows.

 

[TJ blade]

Even if we do manage to go up, it'll basically be like this every single week. Brave 2-0 defeats the highlight of our season. May as well get used to it.

If we go up with this team pal, it will not be 2-0 defeats! Try 6/7s

 

[Speedracer]

I agree with the OP, but the board will be full of threads written by knee jerkers impersonating the Soothsayer from Frankie Howard's Up Pompeii wailing "woe, woe, & thrice woe".

Sure it wasn't the best performance, but we learn from it & move on.

 

[ATL Recs]

We’ve gone there with a specific game plan, tried to be too clever, it’s not worked and it’s looked shit. Absolutely we’ve made a mistake, but that’ll get put away now and we won’t try it again (hopefully anyway).

On the other hand they looked pretty shakey in all truth. Too reliant on individual moments and absolutely there to be got at. If we play our own game in the reverse fixture we’ll beat them, and I’m confident they’ll lose comfortably more games than we will this season.

Is what it is, onwards we go.

Careful you might need this after Boro in midweek

 

[ATL Recs]

Not on that evidence. Return to this at the end of the season

Your deluded man

 

[Weasel]

I agree with the OP, but the board will be full of threads written by knee jerkers impersonating the Soothsayer from Frankie Howard's Up Pompeii wailing "woe, woe, & thrice woe".

Sure it wasn't the best performance, but we learn from it & move on.

It's much more important that Chris Wilder learns from it. I could have told him before the game last night that it wasn't the right team/formation, but then the professional didn't ask the fan. After watching football for over 50 years, ive already learnt that you go with your best team and formation into every match. Hopefully Wilder will learn this himself now (don't hold your breath though as he does like to have a brain fart from time to time).

 

[FTPE]

Leeds will finish above us. At a canter.

No chance.
Zero.
Bookmark me.

 

[brownblade]

I'm worried that the only unbeaten team in the league went into the lions den with a plan of mercy and surrender.

Haha, wow, mercy and surrender Crikey yeah I guess that was a bad plan. No wonder some people are flouncing. I can't believe Wilder planned mercy and surrender...