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After sleeping on it Im still the most ****ed off ive ever been after a game (bar cardiff play off final)

Sorry but warnock fans, he was 99% to blame for it.

Lets start:



4-5 ****ing 1 - every single away game! It doesnt work!!! Why can he not see this when every blade who goes realises it, his negative and crap hoofball tactics are a joke, all the money blades fans spend to go and watch that crap at every away game, its not on.

Armstrong - oh my god, he was beyond words. He just isnt good enough, everytime he gets it its a long ball up field to the opposition, he backs off and backs off and gets skinned all over the shot.

Jagielka - STOP PLAYING HIM IN MIDFIELD!!!!!!! he is a centre half!!, him and Tonge do not work together ffs.

Monty - He is considered to be one of our most important players at the moment, that my friends is a joke. The lad cant even pass a ball 5 yards to him teamates.

Hoofball - Why?? Will somebody please tell me why our defence cannot play a simple ball?

CKR - ****ING CROSS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tonge - why the **** did you move him and monty from the middle you plank??? Finally we had a central midfield that was looking good and then you go and change everything around!

Kenny - Not good enough, some may disagree but for me he should have done better yesterday.

Warnocks signings - Fahti, where is he? Great business neil.

Warnock will not own up to his mistakes, blades fans were getting VERY ****ed off with him yesterday. WHY BRING A STRIKER ON FOR A STRIKER WITH 5 MINUTES TO GO??????????

As you can tell im very annoyed, i just dont understand what goes through his head.

And this is not a knee jerk reaction, i honestly dont think he should be at this club next season.

Even if he keeps us up, do you really trust him with 20 million quid?

I still cant quite believe what I saw on saturday.

Tactically Neil warnock is inept, always has been, always will be. The guy seems to think 4-5-1 works and jagielka is a class midfielder.

I praise him if he keeps us up, I praise him for what he has done for us BUT giving him more money and 2 more years with this side will not take us any further IMO.

Ive seen enough this season to suggest that he is over his head. The blatent facts that he cant even see what every fan at the away games can see is beyond a joke.

Fans were nearly fighting about warnock on saturday, it shouldnt be that way. Villa were outstanding yes, but we let them. Awful, awful performance.

Thanks neil, but for me its time to go.
 



If Warnock wasn't in charge your beloved Tonge would have gone a long time ago
 
Thanks neil, but for me its time to go.


For you it was time for him to go a long time before we were promoted to the premiership!
 
If Warnock wasn't in charge your beloved Tonge would have gone a long time ago

:D hahahaha.

Top reply.

Yes, you are right foxy. I thought he should have left after the 2004-2005 season, never the less he got us promoted and as I said I thank him for that.

Ive seen nothing to suggest he can take this team to 'europe' as himself and McCabe have said, we play a style of football which involves no movement, no style, flair or direct running.

The long ball hoof type of warnock branded football may keep us up, but Im fed up of going to away games to see a team that hasnt got a clue what its supposed to be doing.
 
Ive seen nothing to suggest he can take this team to 'europe' as himself and McCabe have said, we play a style of football which involves no movement, no style, flair or direct running.

The long ball hoof type of warnock branded football may keep us up, but Im fed up of going to away games to see a team that hasnt got a clue what its supposed to be doing.

But you also saw nothing to suggest he'd get us promoted to the premiership, and he did, with more points than the oh so wonderful Sunderland just won the championship with!

If "his brand" of football keeps us up, then its job done! We can build with the extra money and stability and make the planned progress.

Fair do's we've had some poor matches, but we are playing against better opposition. Villa would have beaten most of the league with their performance saturday and we were tipped to go down with a new all time low record!

If you are fed up with what we've been served up with away this year, I dread to think what you'd have been like in years gone by :D
 
I agree i dont think he is the one to take us further.

Hoofball footy will only take us so far in this division.
 
Hoofball footy will only take us so far in this division.

Whilst there has been games where we seem to have knocked out the ball and thought about it later, having seen every single match and a lot of the reserves i'd say collectively as a club we play some cracking stuff at times.
 
At times yes we can do but warnock still would rather play route 1 football. The amount of times paddy could of bowled it out to feet but instead hoofs it up field to a target man we havnt got. If we can play this cracking stuff we cant we play it more often ?
 
monty is deserves to be in our team and we will miss him next week he isnt their to pass he is their to get in and rough teams up im sure we have won more games with him in the team that without,also he is our top man for assists hes a vital asset to our team,every club needs a player like him.
 
At times yes we can do but warnock still would rather play route 1 football. The amount of times paddy could of bowled it out to feet but instead hoofs it up field to a target man we havnt got. If we can play this cracking stuff we cant we play it more often ?

That would be why i've seen him on a number of occaisions gesture to the players to get the ball on the deck I guess?

Warnocks not in control of Paddys every move, i'd like to see him roll it out more but there have been many times where we have benefitted from a quick knock up feild from Paddy (admittedly less this year).

We can't always play nice, pretty football, its about finding a successful mix.
 
id personally like to see paddy being able to throw the ball to the half way line from an oposition corner to nade to skin the defenders who have stayed back and slot home but can see it happening.But yeah paddy does miss alot of oppurtunities to play the ball short
 
At times yes we can do but warnock still would rather play route 1 football. The amount of times paddy could of bowled it out to feet but instead hoofs it up field to a target man we havnt got. If we can play this cracking stuff we cant we play it more often ?

Surely this is more down to goalkeeping technique.
 
At the end of the day it comes down to what they do in training, and from the away performences this season I wonder about how they are preparing for certain games.

There is no reason what-so-ever that a premiership team should not be able to play the simple balls, that robbie is the reason im a fan of Tonge, because he is one of the few (along with Keef and young quinny) who does that.

And rotherham I agree about monty, He has grown on me this season.

But still, he cant pass a ball and we are going to need better if we want to push on.

Warnock has done an excellent job, nobody can deny that. Im just very worried about what he will do with 20 million quid in the summer.

As for paddy, I dont think he's done himself any favours this season.
 
it talks about monty not being good enough and it's a joke that he's one of our most important players atm but then a few sentences down it says we finally got a partnership that was starting to work in monty and tonge....make their minds up?
 



I think thats the point.

People consider him as one of our most important players.

A player of his ability shouldnt be.

As i said, ive actually started to like him, just aslong as he doesnt try to do too much.
 
I think thats the point.

People consider him as one of our most important players.

A player of his ability shouldnt be.

As i said, ive actually started to like him, just aslong as he doesnt try to do too much.

It's a pity the other players haven't improved as he has then.
 
to be honest, i quite like leigertwood when other don't.

Monty isn't the best player but his never say die attitude can rub off on other players and can really help the way a game might turn.
 
Yep.

Shame warnock doesnt have the sense to leave the Monty - Tonge partneship alone when it was finally working.
 
4-5 ****ing 1 - every single away game! It doesnt work!!! Why can he not see this when every blade who goes realises it, his negative and crap hoofball tactics are a joke, all the money blades fans spend to go and watch that crap at every away game, its not on.

i agree with that. tactis havent worked away from home but still stuck with it. why not change it once or twice see if we can do something


Armstrong - oh my god, he was beyond words. He just isnt good enough, everytime he gets it its a long ball up field to the opposition, he backs off and backs off and gets skinned all over the shot.

Jagielka - STOP PLAYING HIM IN MIDFIELD!!!!!!! he is a centre half!!, him and Tonge do not work together ffs.

again agree with them. armstrong was good in championship, but is out of his depth in the prem. my defence would be:

Geary Morgan Jagz Killa


Monty - He is considered to be one of our most important players at the moment, that my friends is a joke. The lad cant even pass a ball 5 yards to him teamates.

as someone said, hes not there to pass the ball, hes there to win it. look at england with lampard and gerrard, both can pass the ball and it dosent work. look at the top teams, they have a holding player and a ball player. lamps and makele works well .

Hoofball - Why?? Will somebody please tell me why our defence cannot play a simple ball?

down to tactics and training. if the forwards and midfield arnt making space theres only one option for the denders and thats to get the ball away from the goal.


CKR - ****ING CROSS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

CKR wants dropping. hes not good enough. he thinks hes a world beater everytime and tries to take on there team and blast it in the back of net than knock it short and go for a return ball. hes over confident and looses the ball too much. he dosent cross enough, his first toutch is poor and hes always falling over.

Tonge - why the **** did you move him and monty from the middle you plank??? Finally we had a central midfield that was looking good and then you go and change everything around!

agree with that, tonge and monty were looking decent in the midfield together and just starting to get things going.

Kenny - Not good enough, some may disagree but for me he should have done better yesterday.

thats utter bollocks. kenny pulled off some good saves to keep the goal difference down. he couldnt do anything about 1st and 3rd, 2nd was armstrongs fault. it is abit worrying sometimes with kenny in the net when he comes charging out, but the amount of times hes saved us makes up for it.

Warnocks signings - Fahti, where is he? Great business neil.

some players yeah crap business. shelton hasnt had much chance to do anything. hulse has been great. so im on the fence about his overall signings.

and if you think the tactics are shit away and fed up of paying money, dont go. simple as.
 
This thread has the air of nerves about it. Of course football is all about opinions and fare play to NW he always said it would go to the last game. No suprise in the defeat at Villa, but it was the manner of the defeat that is upsetting. We can all be certain of relegation if we play like that against Wigan.

A few reflections though, I wonder if part of the problem at Villa was NW was desperate not to have any players red carded and be unavailble for Sunday, its a thought thats all.

NW is certainly trying to put the pressure on Manure to play 'fair' against West Ham, I would be very suprised if West Ham win on Saturday, 75,000 people celabrating the Title, wouldn't you want to show them just why you are Champions.

Our fate is in our hands, and unlike 94 (I was there) we are at home. Clutching at straws we could lose on Sunday and not be relegated. However if we are good enough to stay up we will do so, the table will not lie at 5.00pm on Sunday.

And it would be great to be able to uncross the fingers, toes and any other part of my anatomy that is crossed as agood luck omen.

Keep the faith
 
Don't forget also.... this time around we can do the business on the pitch and celebrate immediately after in style, rather than another match confirming our fate the day after :) (ala Leeds v Reading)
 
i dont want to loose at home and stay up. i want a win at the last game and stay up. then party time!!!
 
Keenzy, that wasnt me who wrote that btw.

Warnock and his tactics truck borrowed from Andy Townsend are not stopping me from going to games, Im stupid, just like most fans.

Myself like everybody on this board will be going to the games long after he has left and is living his life in cornwall.

For ther record, i think we will win on sunday and stay up.
 

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