New manager

[dn5 shaun]

Just gonna be honest here...I don't know what the fck to think other than I'm genuinely worried. No communication or words from the top, an utter shit show on the pitch almost every game now. No emotion or anger or apparent change of formation/set up from Slav. Players either incapable or unwilling to adapt to style of play. January 8 long weeks away where untold damage results wise is a possibility.
January, where do you start? Slav says he want 2 wingers and a holding midfielder...if he hasn't noticed we're not very good at the back. At least 2 midfielders for me, at the back I'd go 3CBs just to try and plug the leeks short term. Egan is a shadow of his previous self in a 2. We need a leader, a wily fckr, a bit of spit and polish. We're soft very un SUFC. Ok I agree with a winger. Inject a bit of pace, somewhere, anywhere. We need a striker, I know we've 40 odd on the books already but apart from Billy and occasionally Mousset..but he's overdue another hiatus from action any time soon. The deadwood and expensive flops...no idea..Berge has Mousse-itis, Brewster shouldn't be anywhere near a start, Mcburnie obviously doesn't have a future with Slav. I'm giving Olsen benefit of the doubt for now as playing behind that defence isn't ideal..ask Ramsdale.
I said I had no idea but I've rambled a bit there but it's worrying...from the 4 years of blades together etc, the success we had, the oh so familiar feeling of despair is creeping in rapidly. Unless some kind of change, be that results, performance, attitude, set up...whatever...this winter at BDTBL could be very ugly.
UTB....Always

Not sure how you can give benefit of doubt to Olsen he's the worst keeper we've had since Lee Baxter

 

[Working Class Hero]

It literally is mental how some seem to be suggesting that the last manager (who got a tune out of this squad) has to take more of the blame than the current manager (who can't get a tune out of this squad, at a lower level, with his own players added in, and is actually in charge).

 

[nopigfansintown]

It literally is mental how some seem to be suggesting that the last manager (who got a tune out of this squad) has to take more of the blame than the current manager (who can't get a tune out of this squad, at a lower level, with his own players added in, and is actually in charge).

The mental gymnastics are unbelievable aren't they mate.

 

[Charlieblade]

At what point in the season did Slav’s traditional slow start, turn into success with his other promoted clubs?
No certainty that he will get promotion this season, but I’d kinda like some straw to grasp at.
The way fans on here turn to former managers, blame expensive players bought by Wilder, blame Wider, but not Warnock? Blame the Prince because he’s not rich enough?
I understand the frustration, but not the knee jerk reaction after every bad result.

Slav has the support of the owner, and it seems the dressing room. I suspect if the JTW doesn’t meet Slav’s expectations, he will be looking for pastures new. No point in looking at Wilder, Warnock, Farke or even Smith until the Blades have a vacancy.

Please get behind Slav and the players for now.

 

[ATL Recs]

I'd have wilder back tomorrow, don't care what anyone says
Some of the best times ever. Just a shame we had a pandemic and fans not allowed because I'm sure things would have been different if we had been there

No no no they wouldn’t the writing was being scribbled on the wall prior to lockdown

 

[ATL Recs]

The mental gymnastics are unbelievable aren't they mate.

None of his own players and what ducking tune it was dire for almost a season and a third

 

[scouseblade]

We are no better than when he took over but far more in debt due to his ludicrous transfer business. Man.

Far more in dept? Despite shitting out 100m on players, we must have made a good 350m during our time in the Prem. The tv money and prize money alone.

 

[nopigfansintown]

None of his own players and what ducking tune it was dire for almost a season and a third

He has five of his own players. Six if we include Ndiaye. Realistically no new manager is getting more than that. He's now saying I need two wingers and a defensive midfielder. Anybody that came into a club and said I need eight or nine of my own players to improve results would be laughed out of town - particularly if they were welded to a system that isn't working.If you read between the lines the Prince has already protected himself from blame. In that long interview on "the Sheffield United Way" he said (I'm paraphrasing) we told him the squad was built a certain way and he had to play a similar formation to Wilder at least until the squad could be turned over. That tells me that one or the other is lying. Even if SJ was lied to he is absolutely to blame for not changing his strategy after the window shut and he didn't get the defensive midfielder or wingers.

 

[mancunianblade]

I'll never understand the necessity to take sides re Wilder. he and AK along with the Prince took us to heights we didn't expect or in the eyes of the football world "deserve" on a very ltd budget. they should be eternally thanked for this. instead of establishing us as a Championship club they made a very good go of trying to establish us as a PL club

Once there we did what you have to do, we spent money in order to establish ourselves, sadly this didn't play out as we hoped. I think Burke was a bad signing and I don't see how he fitted into Wilders system but the others made sense, did they not?

Freeman was signed on the back of a very good season with QPR and was seen as the replacement for Duffy
C.Robinson was signed on the back of a great season with Preston and whilst I don't think he was tailormade for the 532 he was perfect for a plan B option we seemed to lack
Brewster was signed off the back of a very good season with Swansea and was/is seen as a very good prospect, had his form carried on in the PL with us we would be looking at a very tidy profit.
McBurnie also signed on the back of a very good season.
Berge came with a huge reputation and we have seen glimpses if only limited of his potential and his ability.

Hindsight is great, but every single member of the fan base had their lad in their hand over these transfers and rightly so, and signing the POTY from other clubs would seem a very solid method of signing quality.

I also think the thought that the 532 tactics was found out is also a myth, the downturn in form coincided with the loss of JOC, the joint-most important part of that game plan, the real problem stems from the inability to properly replace him this nullified our threat and the rot set in as did the losing mentality.

One thing Wilder constantly promised was to leave the club in a better state than it was when he inherited it. And even though we made a mess of last season and this season isn't going to plan either we are in a better position than when he took over. we experienced the high life we got results against the best in the country and signed players who should have done the job for us. id take this all day long over what Norwich did when they just rolled over in their first season back.

Move on to this season we have a manager with pedigree and a good track record of entertaining football resulting in promotions. he needs time to change the teams mindset, build his own squad and ingrain his way of play.

The last thing we need to do is undo all this before it's even been realised and put in place Neil Fucking Warnock who realises for the 10th time there are no envelopes in retirement so delays it again.

It is possible to look back on our time under Wilder with fondness rather than bitterness and also to look forward to a future under Slav.

 

[originaltrueblade]

When the going gets tough the tough get going

wilder ….when the going got tough he F***** off

 

[bladesince64]

I'll never understand the necessity to take sides re Wilder. he and AK along with the Prince took us to heights we didn't expect or in the eyes of the football world "deserve" on a very ltd budget. they should be eternally thanked for this. instead of establishing us as a Championship club they made a very good go of trying to establish us as a PL club

Once there we did what you have to do, we spent money in order to establish ourselves, sadly this didn't play out as we hoped. I think Burke was a bad signing and I don't see how he fitted into Wilders system but the others made sense, did they not?

Freeman was signed on the back of a very good season with QPR and was seen as the replacement for Duffy
C.Robinson was signed on the back of a great season with Preston and whilst I don't think he was tailormade for the 532 he was perfect for a plan B option we seemed to lack
Brewster was signed off the back of a very good season with Swansea and was/is seen as a very good prospect, had his form carried on in the PL with us we would be looking at a very tidy profit.
McBurnie also signed on the back of a very good season.
Berge came with a huge reputation and we have seen glimpses if only limited of his potential and his ability.

Hindsight is great, but every single member of the fan base had their lad in their hand over these transfers and rightly so, and signing the POTY from other clubs would seem a very solid method of signing quality.

I also think the thought that the 532 tactics was found out is also a myth, the downturn in form coincided with the loss of JOC, the joint-most important part of that game plan, the real problem stems from the inability to properly replace him this nullified our threat and the rot set in as did the losing mentality.

One thing Wilder constantly promised was to leave the club in a better state than it was when he inherited it. And even though we made a mess of last season and this season isn't going to plan either we are in a better position than when he took over. we experienced the high life we got results against the best in the country and signed players who should have done the job for us. id take this all day long over what Norwich did when they just rolled over in their first season back.

Move on to this season we have a manager with pedigree and a good track record of entertaining football resulting in promotions. he needs time to change the teams mindset, build his own squad and ingrain his way of play.

The last thing we need to do is undo all this before it's even been realised and put in place Neil Fucking Warnock who realises for the 10th time there are no envelopes in retirement so delays it again.

It is possible to look back on our time under Wilder with fondness rather than bitterness and also to look forward to a future under Slav.

Post of the year. Agree with absolutely everything.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

It literally is mental how some seem to be suggesting that the last manager (who got a tune out of this squad) has to take more of the blame than the current manager (who can't get a tune out of this squad, at a lower level, with his own players added in, and is actually in charge).

Reminds me of the Tories. It's still all New Labour's fault over a decade on..

 

[Blacksea]

He has five of his own players. Six if we include Ndiaye. Realistically no new manager is getting more than that. He's now saying I need two wingers and a defensive midfielder. Anybody that came into a club and said I need eight or nine of my own players to improve results would be laughed out of town - particularly if they were welded to a system that isn't working.If you read between the lines the Prince has already protected himself from blame. In that long interview on "the Sheffield United Way" he said (I'm paraphrasing) we told him the squad was built a certain way and he had to play a similar formation to Wilder at least until the squad could be turned over. That tells me that one or the other is lying. Even if SJ was lied to he is absolutely to blame for not changing his strategy after the window shut and he didn't get the defensive midfielder or wingers.

When the manager search was on,one of the needs was to play a 3/5/2,so either Slav said it's my way or no way,or we said we want you so you play the way you think best,or Slav is going against his job specifications,so if the latter's the case,why is it being tolerated by the owner,especially in light of the results and performances?
Whatever it is needs clearing up between the two of them because if this continues to go on it will only end in tears,maybe even before the JTW because there is no guarantee that suddenly after the JTW,everything is going to fall into place,players to fortune jigsaw are going to be found,and results are going to improve dramatically,which they need to do any way.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

When the going gets tough the tough get going

wilder ….when the going got tough he F***** off

Do you have special access to the circumstances?
If so please fill us all in.
Wilder signed an NDA so it seemed impossible to get a balanced picture - unless you know differently?

 

[nopigfansintown]

When the manager search was on,one of the needs was to play a 3/5/2,so either Slav said it's my way or no way,or we said we want you so you play the way you think best,or Slav is going against his job specifications,so if the latter's the case,why is it being tolerated by the owner,especially in light of the results and performances?
Whatever it is needs clearing up between the two of them because if this continues to go on it will only end in tears,maybe even before the JTW because there is no guarantee that suddenly after the JTW,everything is going to fall into place,players to fortune jigsaw are going to be found,and results are going to improve dramatically,which they need to do any way.

Agree. If he was managing Fulham or WBA he'd probably have got his P45 already

 

[The Bear]

Ruined the club for years? We were 11th in League One man.

And we're doing our best to get back there

 

[Roygbiv]

I'll never understand the necessity to take sides re Wilder. he and AK along with the Prince took us to heights we didn't expect or in the eyes of the football world "deserve" on a very ltd budget. they should be eternally thanked for this. instead of establishing us as a Championship club they made a very good go of trying to establish us as a PL club

Once there we did what you have to do, we spent money in order to establish ourselves, sadly this didn't play out as we hoped. I think Burke was a bad signing and I don't see how he fitted into Wilders system but the others made sense, did they not?

Freeman was signed on the back of a very good season with QPR and was seen as the replacement for Duffy
C.Robinson was signed on the back of a great season with Preston and whilst I don't think he was tailormade for the 532 he was perfect for a plan B option we seemed to lack
Brewster was signed off the back of a very good season with Swansea and was/is seen as a very good prospect, had his form carried on in the PL with us we would be looking at a very tidy profit.
McBurnie also signed on the back of a very good season.
Berge came with a huge reputation and we have seen glimpses if only limited of his potential and his ability.

Hindsight is great, but every single member of the fan base had their lad in their hand over these transfers and rightly so, and signing the POTY from other clubs would seem a very solid method of signing quality.

I also think the thought that the 532 tactics was found out is also a myth, the downturn in form coincided with the loss of JOC, the joint-most important part of that game plan, the real problem stems from the inability to properly replace him this nullified our threat and the rot set in as did the losing mentality.

One thing Wilder constantly promised was to leave the club in a better state than it was when he inherited it. And even though we made a mess of last season and this season isn't going to plan either we are in a better position than when he took over. we experienced the high life we got results against the best in the country and signed players who should have done the job for us. id take this all day long over what Norwich did when they just rolled over in their first season back.

Move on to this season we have a manager with pedigree and a good track record of entertaining football resulting in promotions. he needs time to change the teams mindset, build his own squad and ingrain his way of play.

The last thing we need to do is undo all this before it's even been realised and put in place Neil Fucking Warnock who realises for the 10th time there are no envelopes in retirement so delays it again.

It is possible to look back on our time under Wilder with fondness rather than bitterness and also to look forward to a future under Slav.

Excellent post. People like to paint everything black and white but all of Wilder, The Prince and Slav have to take some blame for what's happened. None of them are solely to blame though. It's human nature to want a bogeyman to point the finger at but it's much more complex.

 

[Panini]

Wilder signed an NDA so it seemed impossible to get a balanced picture - unless you know differently?

NDAs don't mean you can't respond if your counterpart says or does something which imbalances the situation. It certainly doesn't allow libel to go without consequence.

Wilder was/is absolutely within his rights to respond to anything PA said if it isn't true.

Plenty on here seem to think the payoff gave the club/PA carte blanche to say anything. Wilder's silence, to those of that opinion, makes it seem more plausible. Wilder may well know this and realises keeping silent protects his career and what's left of his SUFC legacy.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

It’s probably a load of rubbish, most things that get passed around are. However a rumour I’ve heard is Slav feels he’s been let down by the ownership and was promised a relatively healthy budget to get us back on track. Also the players are extremely unhappy about the training ground facilities.

The owners seem to have the overwhelming support of the fans at the moment (Bettis aside) however why hasn’t the training ground been improved? Why did we bring in a manager who wanted to change the system? Why did we leave all our transfer business to the last day?

Wilder seems to get all the blame for the position we’re in but there’s a lot more issues than just him.

We have an owner that financially does not have the strength to take us forward.

 

[Black Cloud]

I'll never understand the necessity to take sides re Wilder. he and AK along with the Prince took us to heights we didn't expect or in the eyes of the football world "deserve" on a very ltd budget. they should be eternally thanked for this. instead of establishing us as a Championship club they made a very good go of trying to establish us as a PL club

Once there we did what you have to do, we spent money in order to establish ourselves, sadly this didn't play out as we hoped. I think Burke was a bad signing and I don't see how he fitted into Wilders system but the others made sense, did they not?

Freeman was signed on the back of a very good season with QPR and was seen as the replacement for Duffy
C.Robinson was signed on the back of a great season with Preston and whilst I don't think he was tailormade for the 532 he was perfect for a plan B option we seemed to lack
Brewster was signed off the back of a very good season with Swansea and was/is seen as a very good prospect, had his form carried on in the PL with us we would be looking at a very tidy profit.
McBurnie also signed on the back of a very good season.
Berge came with a huge reputation and we have seen glimpses if only limited of his potential and his ability.

Hindsight is great, but every single member of the fan base had their lad in their hand over these transfers and rightly so, and signing the POTY from other clubs would seem a very solid method of signing quality.

I also think the thought that the 532 tactics was found out is also a myth, the downturn in form coincided with the loss of JOC, the joint-most important part of that game plan, the real problem stems from the inability to properly replace him this nullified our threat and the rot set in as did the losing mentality.

One thing Wilder constantly promised was to leave the club in a better state than it was when he inherited it. And even though we made a mess of last season and this season isn't going to plan either we are in a better position than when he took over. we experienced the high life we got results against the best in the country and signed players who should have done the job for us. id take this all day long over what Norwich did when they just rolled over in their first season back.

Move on to this season we have a manager with pedigree and a good track record of entertaining football resulting in promotions. he needs time to change the teams mindset, build his own squad and ingrain his way of play.

The last thing we need to do is undo all this before it's even been realised and put in place Neil Fucking Warnock who realises for the 10th time there are no envelopes in retirement so delays it again.

It is possible to look back on our time under Wilder with fondness rather than bitterness and also to look forward to a future under Slav.

What a great post...I don’t agree with everything but it epitomises hope, belief and a reminder of great memories...

 

[Keen Blade]

He'd keep us up, I'm not sure the idiot in charge now will

SJ might have been ok for promotion with a good squad.
He is absolutely the worst man for a relegation battle.
How can he motivate a bunch of lazy wage-stealers when he can't string two English words together that can be understood by a disaffected dressing-room ?
Going down sir ?