Marks out of ten, anyone?

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Long: 7/10 - One crucial save, but still shit scared to venture off his line and collect. The one time he did, it was a stupid misjudgement and you could see Maguire and Collins thinking, 'the fuck are you doing, George?'
Westlake: 6/10 - Needs to grow into the game a bit better. One of his free kicks was straight into the keeper's hands.
Collins: 7/10 - More 'back to form'.
Maguire: 6/10 - Can be so very bloody good, but is clumsy and slow, falling all over the place at times and always looking like he will give away a penalty rather than shepherd the attacks away from goal. Did keep Fadden quiet.
Hill: 6/10 - Nowt fancy. Doesn't 'push on' quite as much as he should.
Murphy: 5/10 - Really expected more from this kid.
Doyle: 5/10 - Better for him that I have seen, but way, way below standard.
McD: 6/10 - He tends to drift into the game, turn on the style, then drift out just as quick.
Robson: 5/10 - Stll looks miles from fitness to be honest.
Kitson: 4/10 - Shite
Porter: 7.5/10 - Chased most things down and created our goal. But he is hardly the 'big strapping lad' described on the tellybox.

Subs: McFadzean: 7.5/10 - Give him a start, Morgs
Ironside: 4/10 - Failed to make an impression
Whitehouse: Didn't see much of him TBH

Us: Still misfiring and uninterested (just look how many move for the thrower) and careless with possession with loads of pointless hoof. The front two are pisspoor.

Them: Just as poor. We made them look great.

Crowd: Quiet

Officials: Rubbish. Clear pen against McD. Even clearer against Robson with a red for violent conduct. Their first one no, second one yes. It his his hand and fell into his possession. yardstick for 'accidental hand ball'. Red for McAllister on Westlake.

2nd leg: 1-0 to them. Penalties. Don't have to tell you what happens next, do I?

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Long 6. one decent save, apart from that barely touched the ball.
Westlake 2. dreadful
Collins 6.
Maguire 5.
Hill 6.
Robson 6.
Doyle 4.
Mcdonald 5.
Murphy 5.
Porter 5.
Kitson 1. pathetic

McFadzean 7. not great, but easily the best player on the pitch.
Ironside 2. did nowt
Whitehouse n/a barely touched the ball
 
Long 6. one decent save, apart from that barely touched the ball.
Westlake 2. dreadful
Collins 6.
Maguire 5.
Hill 6.
Robson 6.
Doyle 4.
Mcdonald 5.
Murphy 5.
Porter 5.
Kitson 1. pathetic

McFadzean 7. not great, but easily the best player on the pitch.
Ironside 2. did nowt
Whitehouse n/a barely touched the ball

Am I the only one that thought Westlake did ok? His distribution wasn't great but defensively he did ok. Put it this way, if we got to the final would you rather have his pace or that of McMahon vs Donaldson?
 
Long - 7/10

Hill - 7/10
Westlake - 7/10 (I'm not a fan at all, but thought he was fine)
Collins - 7/10
Harry - 6/10

Murphy - 7/10
Robson - was going on to be a 7/10
McDonald - 5/10
Doyle - 5/10

Kitson - 6/10
Porter - 8/10

Subs
McFadzean - 7/10
Ironside - N/A
Whitehouse - N/A
 
Long - 6 at times slow of his line

Hill - 6 usual steady but poor going forward
Collins - 7 ok
Harry - 5 slow and clumsy, errors could have cost us
Westlake - 6 not as bad as some say

Murphy - 7 a lot better 2nd half
McDonald - 7 would have been an 8 if he had tracked their midfield runners better.
Doyle - 5 poor at times
Robson - 7 looked ok for the short time he was on the pitch

Kitson - 3 really poor he should concentrate on football more than complaining
Porter - 7 ran the channels very well and put in a shift

Subs
McFadzean - 7 deserved MOM by having the balls to have a go
Ironside - 3 didn't get into the game
Whitehouse - n/a
 
Kitson looked fucked after about 5 minutes, he needs to lose some serious timber.
 
Long - 6 at times slow of his line

Hill - 6 into sual steady but poor going forward
Collins - 7 ok
Harry - 5 slow and clumsy, errors could have cost us
Westlake - 6 not as bad as some say

Murphy - 7 a lot better 2nd half
McDonald - 7 would have been an 8 if he had tracked their midfield runners better.
Doyle - 5 poor at times
Robson - 7 looked ok for the short time he was on the pitch

Kitson - 3 really poor he should concentrate on football more than complaining
Porter - 7 ran the channels very well and put in a shift

Subs
McFadzean - 7 deserved MOM by having the balls to have a go
Ironside - 3 didn't get into the game
Whitehouse - n/a
Agree with all of that except kmac, I thought he was poor, gave the ball away alot and ran into cul de sacs. Not one of his finest imho.
 
Long - 7/10 (efficient ,not troubled till the 80th minute but was ready)
Hill - 7/10 steady
Westlake - 7/10 steady
Collins - 7/10 solid
Harry - 6.5/10 looks a bit tense at times
Murphy - 6/10 mobile but got under a couple of shots
Robson - 7/10 was dominating until he was assaulted
McDonald - 5/10 (one backpass was nearly suicidal)
Doyle - 6/10 not as gash as usual , defensively better
Kitson - 4/10 making all the wrong choices , it happens
Porter - 8/10 (worked tirelessly and hassled their 2 big lumps well)

Subs
McFadzean - 7/10 instant hero , nearly a villain
Ironside - 6 ( for wearing a red and white shirt)
 
Long - 6 at times slow of his line

Hill - 6 usual steady but poor going forward
Collins - 7 ok
Harry - 5 slow and clumsy, errors could have cost us
Westlake - 6 not as bad as some say

Murphy - 7 a lot better 2nd half
McDonald - 7 would have been an 8 if he had tracked their midfield runners better.
Doyle - 5 poor at times
Robson - 7 looked ok for the short time he was on the pitch

Kitson - 3 really poor he should concentrate on football more than complaining
Porter - 7 ran the channels very well and put in a shift

Subs
McFadzean - 7 deserved MOM by having the balls to have a go
Ironside - 3 didn't get into the game
Whitehouse - n/a
Agree with most of these marks , would give Hill another point and dock macker another . Apart from last 20 not in the game . Doyle is rubbish , and almost set um up twice.
 
Long - 7 Solid. Did his job. Sometimes the defenders put pressure on him by playing poor balls back to him.

Hill - 7.5 Think this lad is quite underrated. Very solid defensively, although as others have mentioned didn't offer too much going forward. Maybe my 7.5 maybe a bit generous, but I like the lad. Works hard and shows pride in wearing the United shirt.
Collins - 7 Not much to say really. Did okay, kept a clean sheet.
Maguire - 5.5 A bit naff today. He was okay, but I think that Yeovil's balls over the top and Maddens pace and mobility put a lot of pressure on him, and under this position he didn't always look reassured.
Westlake - 6 Not bad, but not great. Gave the ball away in key areas once or twice and was beaten to the header by Madden which could've resulted in a Yeovil goal. Other than that I thought he was okay. No where near as bad as people suggest. Yes, he is a bit suspect defensively, but at the end of the day we kept a clean sheet.

Murphy - 6.5 I feel like this lad has a lot more in his locker, like he is holding himself back. Put a bit of pressure on the full backs , particularly in the second half, although never really troubled them as such. I reckon he needs a little bit of time to adapt, and with a good pre-season under his belt, he could be a star for us next season if he works hard to do so and doesn't get frustrated.
McDonald - 7 Think he improved a lot in the second half. Used his body well and helped to make things tick for us.
Doyle - 6 Okay defensively, but despite him being a defensive minded midfielder he should still contribute to attacks more in my opinion (although in fairness I think that it is hard for both him and Kevin McDonald to contribute too much when all we do is bypass the midfield and hoof the ball up to the strikers!) I didn't really even know he was on the field at parts, although I don't agree with all of this Doyle hating malarkey.
Robson - 7 His class showed today I think. When he was on the ball, I felt confident that he would not lose it or get caught in possession, and this, at league 1, is the sign of a good player. (Which I didn't feel for any of the other players bar maybe Hill, McFadzean and Mcdonald in the second half).
Kitson - 6.5 I think that people are being a bit harsh on him. Although I think that his physical style of play intimidated the Yeovil defenders somewhat, believe it or not, and they really had to get stuck in to deal with him. I do think that he did not support Porter enough though, who was working tirelessly to win balls and pressure the defenders. When Port's got the ball, he had nowhere to go, as Kitson was too far behind.
Porter - 8 Worked really hard today and put pressure on the defenders by doing so. Held the ball up really well as well. I am only giving him a 8however because, in my opinion, he didn't provide much of a goal threat, and that is a strikers main purpose after all. By putting pressure on the defense, he did allow for Kitson to have more space, but Kitson was too slow to capitalize on this and support Porter.

Subs
McFadzean - 8 Looked like he really want's to get in the first team. Confident, and brought some much needed pace into the side. Was adventurous and intrepid, and obviously scored the goal. I do feel however, that his lack of experience showed at times - I thought that sometimes he wasn't sure what to do with the ball or held on to the ball when he should have passed it. All in all, good game from a good prospect.
Ironside - n/a I'm going to say not applicable because he didn't do owt. Don't really have much to rate him on, although he did get into a scoring position but was called offside. I could be harsh and give him a 2 or 3, but he was subbed on at a time where he was never really going to be able to get stuck in in my opinion.
Whitehouse - n/a Didn't do much either
 
Kitson looked fucked after about 5 minutes, he needs to lose some serious timber.

Glad someone else noticed.

He needs to be a last 15 minutes impact player now.

Also needs to be the basis of our future player signings policy.

Any old has been looking for their last pay day can fuck off - no need to apply here.
 
Loving the comments on Westlake - getting mainly 6's with comments of "not great defensively" !!

He's supposed to be a bloody defender. The example of where he just stood there letting Madden get a header in 2nd half (where he didn't even have to jump) is very scary for the second leg. I think Yeovil will exploit this on Monday.

PS. I was an advocate for him replacing McMahon and thought he started ok for us earlier in the season, but in retrospect I don't think Walsall let him go without good reason..........
 
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Haha, yeah true mate. As you say Madden could, and should, have scored from that header. I don't think he was great defensively, but I don't think he was that bad either. What do you reckon his rating should have been?
 
Long: 7/10 - One crucial save, but still shit scared to venture off his line and collect. The one time he did, it was a stupid misjudgement and you could see Maguire and Collins thinking, 'the fuck are you doing, George?'
Westlake: 6/10 - Needs to grow into the game a bit better. One of his free kicks was straight into the keeper's hands.
Collins: 7/10 - More 'back to form'.
Maguire: 6/10 - Can be so very bloody good, but is clumsy and slow, falling all over the place at times and always looking like he will give away a penalty rather than shepherd the attacks away from goal. Did keep Fadden quiet.
Hill: 6/10 - Nowt fancy. Doesn't 'push on' quite as much as he should.
Murphy: 5/10 - Really expected more from this kid.
Doyle: 5/10 - Better for him that I have seen, but way, way below standard.
McD: 6/10 - He tends to drift into the game, turn on the style, then drift out just as quick.
Robson: 5/10 - Stll looks miles from fitness to be honest.
Kitson: 4/10 - Shite
Porter: 7.5/10 - Chased most things down and created our goal. But he is hardly the 'big strapping lad' described on the tellybox.

Subs: McFadzean: 7.5/10 - Give him a start, Morgs
Ironside: 4/10 - Failed to make an impression
Whitehouse: Didn't see much of him TBH

Us: Still misfiring and uninterested (just look how many move for the thrower) and careless with possession with loads of pointless hoof. The front two are pisspoor.

Them: Just as poor. We made them look great.

Crowd: Quiet

Officials: Rubbish. Clear pen against McD. Even clearer against Robson with a red for violent conduct. Their first one no, second one yes. It his his hand and fell into his possession. yardstick for 'accidental hand ball'. Red for McAllister on Westlake.

2nd leg: 1-0 to them. Penalties. Don't have to tell you what happens next, do I?

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Not going to give scores, but the crowd was great. Watching on Sky I thought they did really well.

Thuggery apart Yeovil looked solid. United look very lightweight. I think the problem is confidence and it is difficult to see how we will progress if Yeovil score, as our goal threat is pants. Now the silly Blackman decision is coming home to roost. He may have been a bit lazy and a flash git but one goal in three might have been better than Murphy.

Best confidence booster at the moment would be a pigs relegation.

United could then be motivated to replace them meaning failure would at least ensure some league parity.
 
I thought the standouts were Long and McFadzean. Young George doesn't half get put under pressure by the defence sometimes and then people get on his back when he slices a kick out. There was one instance where he came too far out to claim a ball, but other than that he did very well and made a couple of good saves.

Honourable mentions to Murphy and Doyle. Thought it was one of Murphy's better games for us. He seemed to have the beating of the full backs with his runs.

Long: 7
Westlake: 6
Collins: 6
Maguire: 5
Hill: 6
Murphy: 6.5
Doyle: 6.5
McD: 5.5
Robson: 6
Kitson: 4
Porter: 6.5

Subs: McFadzean: 7/10
Ironside: 4/10
Whitehouse: N/A
 



I don't go with some of the poor marks for McD yes he did do that stupid back pass but otherwise he was put under a lot of pressure by Yeovil's tactics, when they started tiring his game got better due to having more options to pass to. If other players don't get into space he can't play the passing game he is best at. Doyle on the other hand was missing at times ................................ both need to track the oppositions midfield runners better
 
surprised no one has given whitehouse a mark ,the perfectly wieghted return pass he gave from murphys ( i think ) give and go was the best piece of football shown by a united player all night
id have him in the team on monday in place of kitson as an attacking midfielder in a 4-5-1
in the preston match i was well impressed with whitehouses contribution a proper footballer ,a big strong imposing lad who seems to want to and have the ability to play football
 
Am I the only one that thought Westlake did ok? His distribution wasn't great but defensively he did ok. Put it this way, if we got to the final would you rather have his pace or that of McMahon vs Donaldson?
No you're not the only one B.Lade. I didn't see him do an awful lot wrong last night, or in other recent games.
 
Someone has to upset the "boy band" fans, I'm afraid. It might as well be me. The most generous of generous things you could say about Ironside is that he is nowhere near ready for grown-up football. Calls for him to be in the starting XI are ludicrous. He'll do well to have a career at any level above the Conference. Sorry.

McFadzean, on the other hand, looks like he could make a player.
 
Agree about Joe. Strong and willing he may be, but a spell lower down might benefit him. Definitely undecided as to whether he will be a real asset to us at this stage and as much as Kitson is a busted flush nowadays, he should still be in ahead of Joe on Monday.
Whitehouse, not seen enough to be fair to the lad, but looks one paced, Montyesque touch and a bit bulky for a young 'un. Doyle over him at this stage.
Robson is the big loss - he holds a creative spark in his armoury and can produce the unexpected occasionally. His possible absence on Monday (and for the final potentially, if we get there) will put an awful lot of pressure on McD to provide the creative edge, and pressure doesn't seem to sit comfortably with KMac.
 
Agree about Joe. Strong and willing he may be, but a spell lower down might benefit him. Definitely undecided as to whether he will be a real asset to us at this stage and as much as Kitson is a busted flush nowadays, he should still be in ahead of Joe on Monday.
Whitehouse, not seen enough to be fair to the lad, but looks one paced, Montyesque touch and a bit bulky for a young 'un. Doyle over him at this stage.
Robson is the big loss - he holds a creative spark in his armoury and can produce the unexpected occasionally. His possible absence on Monday (and for the final potentially, if we get there) will put an awful lot of pressure on McD to provide the creative edge, and pressure doesn't seem to sit comfortably with KMac.
montyesque ??? The lad completed more passes in two sub appearances than mongy did in his career
 
Haha, yeah true mate. As you say Madden could, and should, have scored from that header. I don't think he was great defensively, but I don't think he was that bad either. What do you reckon his rating should have been?

Going forward - 6.5
Defensively - 4 :confused:
 
Long: 7
Westlake: 4.5- Dont rate him at all, never ever stops crosses going into the box and his free kick deliveries were poor
Collins: 7- Looked solid throughout for the first time in a month
Maguire: 6 at times looked solid, but also nervy
Hill: 6 typical Hill, could have done better going forward but solid defensively

Murphy: 5.5- a bit hit and miss but he is playing out of position. Cut inside when going on the outside was a better option on occasion.
Doyle: 4.5- typical Doyle, too eager to get rid of the ball when he has time and broke a couple of promising moves down by either passing it sideways or backwards.
McD: 6- his head went in the first half when he dribbled the ball into our own box, but was one of the better players during certain periods. Played some decent through balls which were unlucky not to come off
Robson: 5.5 dead ball deliveries were much better

Kitson: 5- Didn't think he was awful but should have done better with the header and spent less time going on and on (...and on....) at the ref. Showed some good touches in the second half. Would have brought him off much sooner.
Porter: 6 did well with the service given. Didn't do much in the box but that was because the balls were hoofed into the channels

McFadzean: 7- Positive and confident. Everything Flynn isn't
Ironside: 4 didn't do bad, just didn't get into the game much


Just hope we don't defend so deep on Monday than what we started doing as the second half wore on. Was like watching Sven's England at times

 
Long - 7 Didn't necessarily command his area as well as he could have, but made up for it with good positioning and some great shot stopping

Hill - 6 Standard. Not bad. Not great
Collins - 6 See Hill
Harry - 6 He's developing some Nyron tendencies, had my heart in my mouth on a few occasions, but what he lacks in pace he just about makes up for in defensive ability
Westlake - 7 First half I thought the lad was quality, defended well and got forwards, as well as playing with a confidence which has been missing from the rest of the team. Let their lad climb above him for a free header second half though.

Murphy - 6.5 When he ran at them he did well. Good assist for the goal and unlucky not to score. Was lacking in confidence to demand the ball and consistently get stuck in
McDonald - 6 Worst player on the pitch first half, gave the ball away and didnt look interested in the slightest. Came out second half a different player, cool on the ball and looked to make things happen
Doyle - 7.5 I've not been his biggest fan this season and have been screaming for Whitehouse to be given a go in his place, but he was up for it big time. Got stuck in, put himself about and was vocal with the other players. Impressive, if only by his own poor recent standards
Robson - 5 Wasn't arsed when he went off

Kitson - 4 Referees know his game to a tee. Won a few balls, but is a mardy fucker at times, and just hasn't got the legs any more. His positioning at times was confusing. He was even covering for left back at one point when we were looking to build an attack.
Porter - 8 Ran his arse off. Should have got a free header at least on target first half but put a proper shift in, showing why he is a quality target man at times.

Subs
McFadzean - 7 Was a pain in their arse from the moment he came on, good attacking running putting them on their back foot. Perhaps a bit lightweight at times though
Ironside - 5 Didn't really notice him. He usually has a lot more of an impact
Whitehouse - Literally on the pitch to run down time and give Porter his standing ovation
 
The fact that Porter was most people's star performer tells us a lot about our team. Unselfish movement and a bit of graft are all it takes to be our best player. When people talk about the basics, you can't get much more basic than that. :)
 
The fact that Porter was most people's star performer tells us a lot about our team. Unselfish movement and a bit of graft are all it takes to be our best player. When people talk about the basics, you can't get much more basic than that. :)


Yep, he's good honest third division trier and did well the other night - but we should be clear about that. If we celebrate players like Porter too much, we'll be in this division for a long time yet. Pace, power, presence, trickery, an eye for goal. The type of attributes we need from a striker - and in all honesty Porter has none of them.

UTB
 



Yep, he's good honest third division trier and did well the other night - but we should be clear about that. If we celebrate players like Porter too much, we'll be in this division for a long time yet. Pace, power, presence, trickery, an eye for goal. The type of attributes we need from a striker - and in all honesty Porter has none of them.

UTB

Unfortunately the 19 year old many see as the 'great white hope' has no more gifts than Porter.
 

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